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rFactor 2 Beta Thread: Which will crash more often; it or us?
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gutterboy44
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Dear god the default vibration/jolt setting for the G27 is retardedly high. Went off track with the Megane and almost brought the house down. Fucking hell. Going to have to tweak some .ini files aka welcome back to pc sim racing. Tweak for 1 hours race for 5 minutes.
mclaren777
Member
Feel free to join our conversation on the official forums.
http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/1713?p=26675
DivineRage002
Member
Did you edit the global logitech profiler settings? That could be it.
gutterboy44
Member
I don't even know where to start with that. This is one of my biggest pet peeves with playing PC sims. Any universal settings to set the G27 at in windows? I remember back in the day I would set windows settings to one setting then tweak further in the game.
*sigh*
I thought by waiting, they'd have everything packaged in one install.
So what do I need to install? And where does it go? So much for being more friendly than RFactor 1.
Downloaded the installer, bought it, logged in. And there's no content. And no way to download content from in-game.
EDIT: And they're torrents. This game better be good is all I can say. A year late, a couple tracks, and an open beta for 44 dollars with a couple tracks that needs to be torrented?. Seriously? Torrent? I don't even have a torrent program on my system.
2nd EDIT: Can someone recommend a malevolent torrent program that's not going to install crap on my system?
I thought by waiting, they'd have everything packaged in one install.
So what do I need to install? And where does it go? So much for being more friendly than RFactor 1.
Downloaded the installer, bought it, logged in. And there's no content. And no way to download content from in-game.
EDIT: And they're torrents. This game better be good is all I can say. A year late, a couple tracks, and an open beta for 44 dollars with a couple tracks that needs to be torrented?. Seriously? Torrent? I don't even have a torrent program on my system.
2nd EDIT: Can someone recommend a malevolent torrent program that's not going to install crap on my system?
DivineRage002
Member
uTorrent seems to be the standard, that's what I use too, works well.
If you go in the logitech profiler you should have in the options (on top of the window) global device properties, those are properties that are applied to ALL games.
Thanks. I'll download that then.
As I was searching their forums to see if I could find some torrent info, saw a thread about the G25/27 and it seems like a common issue that it rattles like crazy. The one ISI guy didn't exactly offering a reassuring voice by saying his has been rattling for months and no damage to his G25.
Poor FF is why I refuse to play Daytona on PS3. On low levels it's terrible, and when you turn it up, it sounds like my G27 is trying to be murdered. Sounds similar. Hope it's not.
DivineRage002
Member
I have a G27, I'll download rF2 when I get home tonight and try to find a ffb config that works.
gutterboy44
Member
My aging rig runs this game in DX 9. 
looks like ass even on the highest settings. Track detail is ok but the car models are shit.
looks like ass even on the highest settings. Track detail is ok but the car models are shit.I've changed the G27 Logitech settings and got things toned down quite a bit. I'll do more tweaking tomorrow.
Handling is great. Graphics are better than I expected. Also as I expected, Monaco is, ah, challenging. Nothing like taking the corner too fast and having your wheels jump the curb (honestly can't remember any other racing game having curbs on their tracks.) Very cool.
It's the light poles that'll send you to the morgue, though. Didn't even notice them until I wrapped myself around one for the first time. There ain't no GT wall riding on that track. I'm not sure how many times my car flip around when I nailed the light pole. But it was a lot.
Handling is great. Graphics are better than I expected. Also as I expected, Monaco is, ah, challenging. Nothing like taking the corner too fast and having your wheels jump the curb (honestly can't remember any other racing game having curbs on their tracks.) Very cool.
It's the light poles that'll send you to the morgue, though. Didn't even notice them until I wrapped myself around one for the first time. There ain't no GT wall riding on that track. I'm not sure how many times my car flip around when I nailed the light pole. But it was a lot.
DivineRage002
Member
So what's the difference between the:
ISI1044-v10-FormulaRenault35s.rfmod.torrent
and
ISI1044-v10-v11-FormulaRenault35s.rfmod.torrent
?
Edit: Nevermind, just read the post below, it's an update to the previous one.
ISI1044-v10-FormulaRenault35s.rfmod.torrent
and
ISI1044-v10-v11-FormulaRenault35s.rfmod.torrent
?
Edit: Nevermind, just read the post below, it's an update to the previous one.
gutterboy44
Member
Care to share what tweaks you made?
gutterboy44
Member
This FFB is so bad. It is just raw generic FFB. My old Momo wheel with a PC and game from over 10 years ago feels exactly like this. I imagine the profiles are being worked on but as it stands now it is too crude. I game at night and it shakes the desk like a reciprocating saw. Good fun otherwise. Hopefuly the community gets the FFB sorted soon.
DivineRage002
Member
Does it at least communicate well on how the car reacts?
gutterboy44
Member
It is accurate in the sense it represents the feel of the car well enough but it has no subtlety to it yet. It makes my G27 feel like a FFB wheel from three generations ago. Even though I am just coming back to PC sims after a break this gen I have owned 4 different wheels through the years so I have a decent point of reference for FFB detail. I was kind of shocked to see the same generic sliders in the Logitech profiler as I did when I was in high school modding brake pedals with racket balls.
For my Logitech profiler I turned down the Spring Effect and Damper Effect from 10 percent to 0 percent. Also turned overall strength from 102 percent to like 80 percent.
It still needs a ton of work, but at least when you crash and go over bumps, it's been toned way down. It's still too strong and obnoxious, but at least I no longer feel a crash is going to literally destroy my wheel.
EDIT: It's really the environmental effects they need to tone the fuck down. It's embarrassing when you drive off the road. Probably why the 60s series is worse than the other modes. Because even driving, that seems to have a lot of environmental effects because of how rough handling those cars were.
gutterboy44
Member
Ok this is pretty much where I ended up tweaking last night as well. Like you mentioned the environmental effects need to be able to be turned down independent of the other FFB effects. I reduced the bat shit level of vibration but now my FFB feels a little muddy. Oh well, it is still a ear to ear grin of joy every time I take out those historic F1 cars and it is a beta. Looking forward to seeing this game get better and better.
mclaren777
Member
I think the tire model feels more natural in rF2 and the FFB is great apart from the off-track vibrations.
I use 360º on my G27 just like I did with my DFP. Then I just turn down the steering lock for each vehicle (25º down to maybe 17º) and that works great for me. I think the Megane Trophy is utterly sublime and tomorrow I might try the other cars (even the old ones) to see if they're as good.
mclaren777
Member
It sounds like they haven't yet put in filters to handle track surfaces differently so the FFB is really raw right now.
Straight from the developer's keyboard...
Michael Borda said:
Shame, I'll hold off then. Stuff like that tends to annoy me a bit too much.
:lol
When I first started, I didn't even realize they didn't put you in the fastest 60s car. That F1 car is absolutely wild with all aides turned off. You can be up to speed in 3rd gear and still fishtail it around if you give it too much throttle. What an absolute beast.
Call me easy, but I appreciate the little touches too. After one of my many crashes, I was backing up to face the right direction, and accidentally backed a bunch of hay stacks into the harbor. Usually haystacks are these static things with no interactivity. To see them moving around and tumbling into the water is too cool.
When I first started, I didn't even realize they didn't put you in the fastest 60s car. That F1 car is absolutely wild with all aides turned off. You can be up to speed in 3rd gear and still fishtail it around if you give it too much throttle. What an absolute beast.
Call me easy, but I appreciate the little touches too. After one of my many crashes, I was backing up to face the right direction, and accidentally backed a bunch of hay stacks into the harbor. Usually haystacks are these static things with no interactivity. To see them moving around and tumbling into the water is too cool.
gutterboy44
Member
This has made the price of admission worth it already. No assists late 60's F1 cars are mental . Dat slip angle.
mclaren777
Member
I love the sound of gravel being brought on-track after you go off. It's such a fantastic addition!
Big Takeover
Member
The AI left me a hay bale surprise out in the middle of the road at Spa last night. They must have just clipped it and flipped it out on to the track. I hit it at like 160mph, and cartwheeled for the next 1/4 mile. HUGE shunt!
Mister Zimbu
Member
Is there any value-add to the online plan given it has an (admittedly small) annual fee?
For example, official leagues that would be directly supported through the game itself (as iRacing does)?
Also, it seems to be a bit insincere to compare this open beta model to Minecraft's- Minecraft was paying 1/4 of the price for the full game gets you both the beta and the full game. This just seems to be more along the lines of "Preorder the full game now, and you'll automatically get access to the beta", which is hardly novel and pretty much commonplace across PC games nowadays.
For example, official leagues that would be directly supported through the game itself (as iRacing does)?
Also, it seems to be a bit insincere to compare this open beta model to Minecraft's- Minecraft was paying 1/4 of the price for the full game gets you both the beta and the full game. This just seems to be more along the lines of "Preorder the full game now, and you'll automatically get access to the beta", which is hardly novel and pretty much commonplace across PC games nowadays.
Too bad you can hear the sound loop, the initial idea is quite nice though.
Am I blind, or is there no track reset? Went into the options, but I can't seem to find any.
There's probably not, but I wish they weren't so serious and allowed it. Same thing with practice being broken. I just want to get used to the car and tracks without any extra things.
When I get moonshot over a railing and that's where I'm placed, I have to restart the race. I don't even want to race. I just want to drive. It's frustrating to have to go back to the starting grid again. And even if you can drive out (not always possible), I'd rather not have the wheel tortured.
There's probably not, but I wish they weren't so serious and allowed it. Same thing with practice being broken. I just want to get used to the car and tracks without any extra things.
When I get moonshot over a railing and that's where I'm placed, I have to restart the race. I don't even want to race. I just want to drive. It's frustrating to have to go back to the starting grid again. And even if you can drive out (not always possible), I'd rather not have the wheel tortured.
DivineRage002
Member
Anyone else up for a time trial competition?
mclaren777
Member
I'd rather organize an online race for tomorrow or Saturday.
Possibly relive some of the good ol' days of our rFactor 1 league...
DivineRage002
Member
I'd rather wait a few weeks, to get some initial setup problems sorted out, I'm still getting lag even by myself on the track, ESPECIALLY at monaco.
I'll try turning the shadows entirely off, but I'm almost at fully minimum settings already. Only things left to lower are the shadows and the resolution (I kinda want to avoid going lower than 1080p... Kinda sad seeing my I7 laptop lagging at minimum on this game...
I say do some time trials for the first 1-3 weeks, and once all the problems are sorted, let's do some races.
And I agree, those were the good old days, I think I was driving one of the Toyotas.
Edit: It's a weird lag too, Fraps tells me it runs at 50-60 fps, yet it feels like 20-25...
There isn't a reset in any of the modes?
As much as I'd like to get into this and a possible league set up, I want to know more about the other sims coming out soon. Primarily GTR3.
I'm not feeling the FFB as anything special personally. I feel iracing has far better FFB. I tried all last night to dial in the wheel and got it alot better than it initially was but still something doesn't feel right. Maybe its just beta issues.. Regardless im happy to support the team with my money until the final product comes out.
The only comparison that can be done with Minecraft is that both products charged for WIP versions that will be updated until final version. MC sold their alpha for 10$, the final product is now retailed at 27$. Users who bought the game early received a stream of updates and essentially got the full game at a bargain price.
In the case of rFactor, they're selling the open beta for the full price of 44$, not to mention that online costs extra in the long-term. It feels more like a pre-order bonus to me. At least the rFactor community can provide direct feedback to ISI developers. That kind of relationship built by Notch and his userbase helped Minecraft's success as well.
In the case of rFactor, they're selling the open beta for the full price of 44$, not to mention that online costs extra in the long-term. It feels more like a pre-order bonus to me. At least the rFactor community can provide direct feedback to ISI developers. That kind of relationship built by Notch and his userbase helped Minecraft's success as well.
Big Takeover
Member
When the time is right, I'll certainly be into some GAF races/TTs.
Okay, what am I missing here. Installed the game, purchased the game, started up Single-Player. Under tracks there's nothing, under cars there's one yellow safety car, can't start the race because it says "No cars / tracks installed"
You need to download the rfmod files - http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/1396-Downloads
Ah that's why, cheers.
mclaren777
Member
What do you mean by glitching? Just poor framerates?
mclaren777
Member
That it just doesn't look right and there is a black 'spot' in the windshield all the time.
Decided to hook up my 360 controller as I haven't gotten around to ordering an HDMI cable yet for my TV, to get the G27 + Seat going. Positive side is, there's a default profile. Negative side is, it's unplayable. On default, you can barely touch the stick without the wheel going bonkers and car spinning off, even with a huge deadzone and sensitivity set to 0% it's pretty much unplayable.