To add to some comments already made, keep in mind the directors of 3 and 4 are none others than David Fincher and Jean Pierre Jaunet, both amazing directors with an spotless track record. There's quality in these movies, but you can see the studio meddled with them, and the final product didn't stand to the standards already set for the franchise.
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Ridley Scott's Prometheus Trailer
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To add to some comments already made, keep in mind the directors of 3 and 4 are none others than David Fincher and Jean Pierre Jaunet, both amazing directors with an spotless track record. There's quality in these movies, but you can see the studio meddled with them, and the final product didn't stand to the standards already set for the franchise.
maquiladora
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Oh yeah, I'm not saying there aren't intense sequences in Aliens, its just that the movie as a whole compared to Alien feels less intense to me. Alien just has this incredible, dark, terrifying, imposing atmosphere that just fucking grips me all the way through.
You yourself said you were 11 when you went to see Gladiator. The relevancy is that more kids under 17 would be interested in seeing Prometheus than you think.
If my brother saw Alien when he was 12 ~30 years ago, and I saw Terminator when I was 11, then kids from 30/40 years ago aren't as different as kids of today.
TheJollyCorner
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just seems to me the xenos have a critical connection to the jockey in some way/shape/form... so they have to be in this film at some point. Right?
I mean, we're bound to see something... maybe we just don't see the standard xeno from Alien/Aliens/Alien Resurrection because none of the humans are impregnated? Some crazy shit's happening to these crew members, but we know from the fossilized corpse that a chestburster penetrates the jockey at the very minimum.
or we go to the other theory that the derelict in ALIEN was totally different from what we are seeing in these trailers (meaning same design and what-not, just different location/cargo) and Scott is just trolling everyone.
Genesis Knight
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Alien is ice, Aliens is fire. They're both equally tense, they just take different approaches to tightening the screw on the viewer.
Edmond Dantès;33680080 said:
I am still going with one origin species, spreading DNA around the universe and evolving into wildly different species based on what corner of the galaxy they ended up.
They sent out lots of space jockeys targeted at different habitable planets, on earth we got humans, on LV246 or whatever they evolved into xenomorphs.
Yeah, overall Alien is definitely much more of a horror film than an action film ala Aliens. It's funny because when I was a kid I preferred Aliens. But over time I've grown to prefer the original. I think partly because I can appreciate the artistry of making a truly scary film more, and also because the space marines trope has been largely run into the ground by a million imitators. Also, the xenomorph itself has largely been run into the ground via over exposure in other films, comics, etc. The more you see of the villain/monster, the less scary it becomes.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
So Freudian and typically Giger.
Yeah, I agree. Alien is a haunted house in space, with 1 monster hunting the crew down 1 by 1.
Aliens is being swarmed and overrun and 'ohshitohshitohshit!'
I H8 Memes
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Whether or not the company had deciphered and knew the contents of the message or not doesn't matter. It was still an alien message that had to be deciphered by the ships computer.
I thought it was pretty blatant in Aliens what with Paul Rieser's character and Bishop and all.
EDIT: and if you want to get really technical, you could say that Aliens v. Predator is canon and that the OG Weyland knew about Xenomorphs from the Predator temple on Earth.
The best way to end the whole Alien vs Aliens thing is to just realize they are 2 difference genres.. so they should not be compared directly to one another. Alien is a pure corridor, suspense driven horror film whereas Aliens is an in your face, intese, rollercoaster action movie with scary parts in it.
Horror film vs Action flim.
I'm glad we got both genres to be honest, if Aliens was another horror film trying to do what Alien did it simply would have failed. Cameron knew this, took a different route and created a masterpiece of an action film and the entire industry has tried to copy for almost 30 years.
Horror film vs Action flim.
I'm glad we got both genres to be honest, if Aliens was another horror film trying to do what Alien did it simply would have failed. Cameron knew this, took a different route and created a masterpiece of an action film and the entire industry has tried to copy for almost 30 years.
Zombie James
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Some details:
Space Jockey(?) standing in the chair room. You can tell by his size compared to the chair that he's not human. Also, notice the writing/symbols at the bottom.
Have mixed feelings about this if this guy is actually a jockey and that thing we've been calling a jockey since forever is actually a suit. In the original movie it definitely didn't look like a suit.
i wonder which one is your nr.1
I prefer Alien but this scene from Aliens sets the scene a bit before the landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYGgOXww48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYGgOXww48
AltogetherAndrews
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According to Sigourney, she went back because of Jeunet, although maybe she has revised that statement recently. So no, I really don't think he was a desperate last measure in order to make bank, and I'm certain that it would have been a safer box office bet to hand it to any random action director than the (part) director of Delicatessen.
It was a damned shame about the editing/rewriting, that's for sure though, and in the end I don't think Jeunet was ever at all the right kind of director for an Aliens movie. Shame since it was dazzling, visually.
brandonh83
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welp
1. The Hobbit
2. Prometheus
3. Dark Knight Rises
Sci-fi where have you been? yes I liked Star Trek and Avatar, loved even, but dark, scary sci-fi is so rare, even non-existential anymore. Pandorum was ass.
1. The Hobbit
2. Prometheus
3. Dark Knight Rises
Sci-fi where have you been? yes I liked Star Trek and Avatar, loved even, but dark, scary sci-fi is so rare, even non-existential anymore. Pandorum was ass.
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Isn't that the thing we see in the trailer, but now it's fallen on its side?
Edmond Dantès
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I hope this kicks off another era of great science fiction films eventually leading into the Rendezvouz With Rama adaptation that Morgan Freeman's been pushing for.
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Considering the whole ship is organic, it would make sense the "suit" was a suit.
Graphics Horse
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Seems to be.
If it's the same one, how did all those eggs stay so neatly arranged?
Or did the eggs grow from an array of vials bolted to the floor?..
I'm kind of troubled how they're trying to outrun it instead of dashing off to the side. It's kind of huge though.
TheJollyCorner
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also (arguably) the only blemish on Juenet's near flawless filmmaking career.
I want Juenet and Caro to team up again and make a spiritual successor to The City of Lost Children. :}
SCULLIBUNDO
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Edmond Dantès;33680595 said:
I hope this leads to the return of FOX circa 1980.
Genesis Knight
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I see what you're saying now, but I'm not sure I believe it. Kids have exponentially more entertainment options that when Alien and Terminator came out, and Prometheus is looking like a slow-burn compared to Transformers and Modern Warfare 3. According to my wife that's all the kids at the middle school talk about.
I guess I'm just saying that whether it's PG-13 or R it seems like something that wouldn't appeal to kids enough to really cut out a bunch of ticket sales. To Fox, I guess ANY lost ticket sales are a bad thing; they know the people who care about it being R or PG-13 will go anyway.
But whatever, evidence on both sides is anecdotal so I guess we'll find out next year.
watching the trailer in hd...
Can't wait for this, I know exactly where I'm gonna watch it too, we got one of those nice theaters that has sofa seats and shit, serves beer and food.
best of all the audience is always quiet and respectful there. cost like 5 bucks more but easily worth it for this movie.
Can't wait for this, I know exactly where I'm gonna watch it too, we got one of those nice theaters that has sofa seats and shit, serves beer and food.
best of all the audience is always quiet and respectful there. cost like 5 bucks more but easily worth it for this movie.
brianjones
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yeah i went through this phase too
im back in ALIENS camp though.. it's just more fun to watch i think
Your feelings aside, Ridley Scott has said that it was a suit. Most likely, bio-mechanical.
Neuromancer
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AvP is not canon. It is jackassery of the worst sort.
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I just can't believe how amazing it looks visually. Makes the recent crop of trailers (TDKR, Hobbit) look like made for tv snoozefests.
lol
"derp derp, what if Bishops design was actually based on the original Weyland actually looked like!!"
The worst hackery Ive ever witnessed in a cinema
Simo
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Watching the ending scenes in the trailer, it doesn't look like lava raining down but
possibly wreckage of the Prometheus? You can see debris all over the ground including the land vehicles from the ship.
Regarding the Space Jockey..
The scene with the chair rising out of the ground and the holographic map look almost as if they're the same room and the latter scene has Fassbender standing in the middle and with the perspective he doesn't look any small than the alleged Jockey.
SilentProtagonist
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Close up of the space jockey helmet/head/whatever.
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this GIANT UFO! That thing is huge.
Quick observation: If this is intended to be a helmet (with clear eyes), that's supposed to fit onto the large humanoid SJ's head, then why are the eye holes so far apart? They would need a strange shaped head to fit that. Also, it seems strange that there would eye-holes in a modern/future/alien helmet at all.
My hype for Prometheus isn't the size of a tangerine.
Edmond Dantès
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I love that debate. For me, his eyes in one particular scene allude to it and the strength he exhibits at the end, when hanging for dear life.
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BruceLeeRoy
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Ridley Scott showing how its done. I love the atmosphere.
Robot Pants
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Alien Resurrection hate or not, The Newborn is fucking terrifying.Alien Resurrection Hatin' Posts said:
Neuromancer
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He'd be right of course.
Read the thread, its been referenced and linked to on here every few posts, that or use google.
nero2082
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yeah, they were filming in Iceland
It looked fucking ridiculous. I got shushed in the theater twice for that film - the first time for laughing out loud at Dan Hedaya's comical expression when he examines a piece of his own brain and again for the stupid looking newborn alien thingy when it made a sad face.
Still makes me LOL.
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