lol, just fond this from one of CD's level designers:
Right afterwards he said he was signing off for a while...don't know from what he says if he is against or not...could just be messing with people sending hate his way
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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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Right afterwards he said he was signing off for a while...don't know from what he says if he is against or not...could just be messing with people sending hate his way
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I wonder the types of figures we are talking about to secure this kind of deal between SE and MS.
How much do people think they paid? $75 million? The only figure I can recall in these types of exclusive deals is $50 million but I can't remember if that was just for exclusive DLC for a major franchise.
How much do people think they paid? $75 million? The only figure I can recall in these types of exclusive deals is $50 million but I can't remember if that was just for exclusive DLC for a major franchise.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Come on breh, we already have Halo.
theDeeDubs
Member
Too much salt causes bloat. That and the sour grapes have been hilarious, but harassing people on twitter is embarrassing.
They are direct competitors both games are in the same genre. It makes total sense for SE they get cash up front. They avoid going head to head with UC4 on the PS4 and can sell the game to PS4 owners during the less crowded winter.
FTFY
Those all existed in 2012 with the first game...it isn't new.
Might want to stop while you're
Same, really enjoyed TR
E, and was looking forward to RotTR, but not enough to buy an Xbox One.Leafhopper
Banned
I don't think they ever said it was on specific consoles before and it was shown at the MS E3 press conference.
Delicious Waffles
Member
I find it astonishing how mad people are about this.
Guaranteed if this announcement was the other way around, people would be dancing in the streets and laughing at XBO owners.
Guaranteed if this announcement was the other way around, people would be dancing in the streets and laughing at XBO owners.
lol, just fond this from one of CD's level designers:
Seems like this guy is going to be quitting because of this.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Because people wanted it and only have PS4s maybe. I think its a good move. If it turn out well then MS has a game in 2015 that is rather unchartedesque to put out.
Megatron
Member
It has always seemed to me that with these announcements, they don't use words like that because they want you to think of it as exclusive and not timed exclusive. This is business as usual.
semiconscious
Member
yeah, there's yer everyday salt, & then there's this. had this exclusivity, whether timed or not, been mentioned in the original announcement, there definitely would've been some salt. but this sorta 'bait'n'switch' bullshit (get everyone excited, then pull the rug out) just ends up making se/cd look pretty sleazy...
i think if this's indeed a timed exclusive, they should probably just spit it out now. because the whole thing's accomplished nothing but making them look bad...
badcrumble
Member
That's just correcting the specific wording without directly contradicting the point.so, this is timed or full exclusive?
this sure sounds like a full exclusive to me...
Moneyhatting is moneyhatting
But more people would be indifferent since more people own ps4s than xbones
BronsonLee
Member
so, this is timed or full exclusive?
this sure sounds like a full exclusive to me...
Greenberg is not to be trusted.
Yeah, he seems...not happy about it. At all.
shinra-bansho
Member
If it is a timed exclusive, which I am reasonably confident it will turn out to be, then it's entirely intentional to be as vague about that as possible. The entire point of exclusives is to generate a competitive advantage.
Anyone expecting any proper clarification is fooling themselves. Any proper clarification is essentially burning whatever money was paid if it is a timed exclusive.
It could be a lifetime exclusive, I highly doubt it. But it could be. That's the point.
Anyone expecting any proper clarification is fooling themselves. Any proper clarification is essentially burning whatever money was paid if it is a timed exclusive.
It could be a lifetime exclusive, I highly doubt it. But it could be. That's the point.
Hamlet Machine
Member
Yeah, that's why I put "force me" in between quotation marks...
I have no problem with owning multiple consoles, I have a Wii U for Bayonetta, X, and the nintendo games. I have a problem with the way Microsoft handle THIS exclusive in particular.
If I recall, it was presented as multiplat the last E3.
Dat ether.
Paracelsus
Member
False equivalence as it never happens.
DJ Lushious
Member
Truth. Though it did find its way back on a Sega platform again with the Dreamcast.
The more I remember the franchise, the more I realize it's been a culprit of these console exclusivity contracts for most of its life. Tomb Raider 2 and 3 exclusive to Sony, Tomb Raider: Anniversary 6-month exclusive to Sony, and Tomb Raider: Legend wouldn't see its life on a then current-generation Playstation console until nearly 5 years later. Seems like this Microsoft venture is just another feather in its hat.
0ptimusPayne
Member
Fuck. I wonder how they're going to optimize for the weaker hardware? No more 60fps goodness on PC or PS4. Glad I have an x1 though. Looks like MS is going down that same path with 3rd party exclusives this gen too
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
so, this is timed or full exclusive?
this sure sounds like a full exclusive to me...
Their not directly answering anything.
if you guys keep saying your going to wait for this to hit other platforms MS will probably make another deal to keep it a true exclusive, it happened before.
And I won't buy it if that's the case. Thanks for saving me $60, MS, for not letting Square port it to PC?
graywolf323
Member
didn't that have a lot to do with the PS1 going with CDs while the N64 stuck with cartridges?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
That's all I can think of too. Probably MS convinced Enix that they won't sell if they're going against Uncharted so they made it exclusive (timed?).
I personally am not phased by this news. I don't care who moneyhats who. If its interesting and if I ever get to own XBO then I'll get it. At this point I hate the fact that we have silly traditions where they announce preorder bonuses before they show the audience any gameplay footage.
Good show, MS/Enix. Enjoy the ride.
Now this mural is a bit awkward...
hahaha oh man
Probably for the best. Plus, it's just a never ending cycle where people enter the thread go "so much salt" ignoring all the reasonable discussion that came before. Then people re-explaining why it's not. Rinse and repeat.
Leafhopper
Banned
Gabriel_Logan
Member
And its not coming to PC is a really big reason as well. A lot of people own the PC/PS4 combo.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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I don't know why MS thinks TR is going to be they're new flagship IP. Seems like they're clutching at straws to gain any advantage over Sony at this point.
It'll be a decent seller, but it will in no way increase system sales. It's not that type of game. Especially if CD decides to incorporate another hamstrung multiplayer mode a la Tomb Raider 2013. They'll need to heavily invest in making a decent MP or co-op addition if they hope to push more product this time.
It'll be a decent seller, but it will in no way increase system sales. It's not that type of game. Especially if CD decides to incorporate another hamstrung multiplayer mode a la Tomb Raider 2013. They'll need to heavily invest in making a decent MP or co-op addition if they hope to push more product this time.
so, this is timed or full exclusive?
this sure sounds like a full exclusive to me...
If it wasn't timed, Aaron would have said so directly. Without a doubt.
TheSlySoul
Member
Some of it is salt, the rest is just "Why?"
I wonder how much MS paid for the exclusivity of a game that made only 2 million on their platform? Probably 8 digits. I can believe the $400 million loss more and more because MS has been striking out on the exclusive deals.
Croft went from the boat to an inflatable raft because the guy on it paid her a premium for it.Now this mural is a bit awkward...
LilWayneSuckz
Member
The funny thing about this is I had this on my Amazon wishlist on PS4.
I never understood people with the "I Believe In Phil Spencer" tags, he's still utilizing moneyhats over publishing. I was hoping to see Ninja Theory, etc. come out and announce a bunch of new AAA IPs being published by Microsoft but instead I see this which made me cringe.
I loved the reboot and played it on 360 and since I'm getting the SO White XB1 I'll be able to play it, but I feel bad for PC/PS4/PS3 only owners who don't have the money to spend on multiple consoles and are fans of the reboot as well.
I never understood people with the "I Believe In Phil Spencer" tags, he's still utilizing moneyhats over publishing. I was hoping to see Ninja Theory, etc. come out and announce a bunch of new AAA IPs being published by Microsoft but instead I see this which made me cringe.
I loved the reboot and played it on 360 and since I'm getting the SO White XB1 I'll be able to play it, but I feel bad for PC/PS4/PS3 only owners who don't have the money to spend on multiple consoles and are fans of the reboot as well.
BronsonLee
Member
Now this mural is a bit awkward...
Lol holy shit, goddamnit Shinogu you're on a trojan horse!
Forza FOUR had clubs, in 2011 ffs. And after buying Skype, bundling the system with a camera, and integrating these aforementioned and other methods of contact into every game and app on Xbox One you expected them to champion the sequel to their immensely popular and critically acclaimed racing game as the "anti-social racing game?" Get real.
Castef
Banned
This is really wonderful.
Guys, could we try to keep the level a little higher than this?
Because this is getting depressing.
Because most of the people that bought TR, bought it on either PS3, PS4 or PC. Yet that majority of people are unable to buy the sequel unless they happen to also have an xbox in their house.
I'd say being pissed off is an acceptable response to this announcement.
By who? It was revealed at Microsoft's presser and they weren't going to say "and it will be coming out holiday 2015 on Xbox One and PS4!"
So, who said it was multiplat?
Why? Temple of Osiris is still coming to PS4. Or did MS buy that too?Now this mural is a bit awkward...