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Rottenwatch: THE DARK KNIGHT

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Aristotlekh said:
You know what I'm sick of, by the way?

That bullshit obligatory scene of two kids between the ages of 6 and 10 in the backseat of a car pretending to be superheroes or something, and then the superhero has to fly past the car doing something badass, which leads to an obligatory "whoa" from the kids.
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I hate this!!!
 
At the IMAX showing, some dude in the audience made a completely childish joke that had me laughing uncontrollably.

During the part where they say "if the noise becomes too much for you just close your eyes" this dude shouts out "and open your mouth". :lol :lol :lol

Oh and this movie was incredible.
 
DoctorWho said:
Oh for fuck sakes. It is a Superhero movie! What the fuck is with NeoGAFs obsession to call it anything but. It seems that people here are so obsessed with Superhero films having no relationship with their comic book counterparts. WTF is the point then.

Yes, because all the other comic book movies now suck due to Chris Nolan's brilliant vision. From now on, every super... oh sorry... movie about a guy who dresses up in a weird costume, should be deep-dark-and-brooding.
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Though I think that TDK is a superhero movie (it's just a classification of genre), I understand that people are trying to make the distinction between a "great" movie and a "fun" move, and superhero movies are usually the latter. And I say great movies to mean something that has a high fidelity script, direction, acting, cinematography, etc. Nolan has an absolutely brilliant vision. But I see no reason to detach TDK from its comic book roots. Great movies can come from almost any genre.
 
DoctorWho said:
Oh for fuck sakes. It is a Superhero movie! What the fuck is with NeoGAFs obsession to call it anything but. It seems that people here are so obsessed with Superhero films having no relationship with their comic book counterparts. WTF is the point then.
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Yes, because all the other comic book movies now suck due to Chris Nolan's brilliant vision. From now on, every super... oh sorry... movie about a guy who dresses up in a weird costume, should be deep-dark-and-brooding.
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It simply transcends the genre. Period.
 
Aristotlekh said:
You know what I'm sick of, by the way?

That bullshit obligatory scene of two kids between the ages of 6 and 10 in the backseat of a car pretending to be superheroes or something, and then the superhero has to fly past the car doing something badass, which leads to an obligatory "whoa" from the kids.
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It was funny shit and totally unexpected. :D
Two kids pretending to shoot a car and then it blows up.
Who woulda thought?
 
Aristotlekh said:
You know what I'm sick of, by the way?

That bullshit obligatory scene of two kids between the ages of 6 and 10 in the backseat of a car pretending to be superheroes or something, and then the superhero has to fly past the car doing something badass, which leads to an obligatory "whoa" from the kids.
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Possibly the only scene I would prefer the movie without.
 
Aristotlekh said:
You know what I'm sick of, by the way?

That bullshit obligatory scene of two kids between the ages of 6 and 10 in the backseat of a car pretending to be superheroes or something, and then the superhero has to fly past the car doing something badass, which leads to an obligatory "whoa" from the kids.
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The movie was well written and surprising all the way through, that part seemed instead to be so out of place in a superhero summer movie. I can live with those scenes if other movies were as good as this.
 
Still have to wait another 40 hours for my Saturday Midnight showing, but it's IMAX. And I don't mind people cheering when awesome shit happens. But the random college fratboys that feel the need to be the life of the party at a fucking movie theatre can die in a fire.

Hopefully Harrisburg will have weeded out the fucktards by Saturday night.
 
When the trailers were over, we went nuts in the theater, and when the movie officially started the theater was silent. You could hear a pin drop in it.

As for the movie, honestly, this was the greatest movie I have ever seen. Everything about it was perfect, I really have no words about it. See it now, and as many times as you can.
 
Dan said:
Possibly the only scene I would prefer the movie without.
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Yeah, that was this movie's "I've got to get me one of those" moment.

BTW, no love for "That's what I'm counting on"? Biggest reaction from the audience, aside from the pencil.
 
Reading through this thread, and some posts, I'll have to agree with people like Amir0x. Ledger can't be topped. Won't be topped. There is no point to a sequel. In any case, with all the dread hanging over the production of the film, I don't see the Nolan brothers returning, and I don't want them to. Will be all the more easier to ignore the next Batman movie.
 
pitt_norton said:
Fuck! When did the Brother Nolans die???????? When did this happen!!!!!!!
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No, Ledger died.

You can't really claim that they scripted Ledger's Joker...it totally became his creation. Often the best performances in film are those given by actors who create a character that goes well beyond what was handed to them in the script.
 
Quick question--- Does the IMAX version have 15 more minutes of footage, or is it the same scenes just shot with IMAX cameras?
 
The Times (UK) review (5/5) - http://entertainment.timesonline.co...tainment/film/film_reviews/article4337446.ece

The genius of The Dark Knight is that Christopher Nolan, the film’s director, producer and co-writer (with brother Jonathan) has not only produced a stunning, amazing comic book movie, but also one with an intellectual heart and a tough, unresolved message at its end. Nolan, who directed the last Bat-movie (Batman Begins in 2005), has a masterful grip on his hero.

The talking point thus far has been Heath Ledger as The Joker. Will the performance accord him a posthumous Oscar? Is it odd to watch the actor? No, because he delivers a career-defining performance.

Ledger is so terrifying and unpredictable that his very presence on screen makes you horribly nervous – the atrocities he visits on his victims are bloody and vile-minded, and when he arrives at a party at the Wayne penthouse you feel sick as he observes the guests. He preys on our fear and sense of violation; what can Batman do to save us from that?

Ghoulish observation of Ledger shouldn’t obscure the brilliance of the other performances, notably Aaron Eckhart as the avenging prosecutor Harvey Dent. Dent, and his terrible fate, is the moral core of the film. Like Batman, he journeys plausibly from the light side to the dark.
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Guardian's report on the Premiere - http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2290975,00.html

The absence of Heath Ledger dominated The Dark Knight's world premiere in New York last night, amid increased speculation that his performance as the Joker could be up for an Oscar next February.

The traditional red carpet was black in the late actor's honour

For The Hollywood Reporter, the premiere was the occasion for "a quiet, backdoor test of the movie's awards potential, especially for Heath Ledger," noting that studio executives may have got what they hoped for as "there were several midscreening ovations for the late actor".

Associated Press' Christy Lemire writes that The Dark Knight is "an epic that will leave you staggering from the theater (sic), stunned by its scope and complexity". "Ambitious, explosive set pieces share screen time with meaty debates about good vs evil and the nature of - and need for - a hero," says Lemire, adding that "there's nothing cartoony about [Ledger's] Joker. Ledger wrested the role from previous performers Cesar Romero and Jack Nicholson and reinvented it completely."
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Saw the midnight show last night...

FUCKING PHENOMENAL!!!

I was afraid it wasn't gonna live up to the hype, but it exceeded it big time. The movie was so dark, dramatic, and cleverly written.

To the cast & crew: Well done. *applause*
 
I waitied to buy tickets, and all the Imax shows are sold out. So I ended up buying tickets for next weekend. I've never seen a movie completely sell out the Imax this far in advance. I was looking for tickets on Monday, (14th) and they were all gone. They even added a 1:30am showing (a first) and it sold out as well.
 
There can't be much else to say.. I can't wait for another showing. I'm stunned, what a great film and great experience this was.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
It's on four screens at our downtown theater. That's a big deal in our po-dunk town; I can't remember a time when a movie was on 4 screens.
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Similar situation here. They've got it on three (of eight) screens, which is a pretty big deal, considering there isn't another theater for a hundred miles. I can only recall one or two other films that have taken up such a sizable chunk of theater space.

I'm going to a late show tonight with some people from work; still not that excited, but we'll see.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
It's on four screens at our downtown theater. That's a big deal in our po-dunk town; I can't remember a time when a movie was on 4 screens.
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It was on four screens for a midnight showing at one theater in my area(appears to be for showings today also), and it was almost completely full, which is unheard of. Granted, there were tickets available still up to showtime last night, but there were maybe 10 empty seats and I was in the last of the four to start selling tickets.



Oh, and it was fuck amazing. So, if anybody is on the fence...you suck at being a person, I just want you to know that.
 
I think they just opened up a new 14 Screen theater literally 1 mile from my house. It has looked completed for a week or 2, but figure they would be a few weeks away. It seems like it opened simply for The Dark Knight.

And I can't find it on Fandango.......
 
What a kick ass movie. I saw it last night for free during an Intel retail event (I used to work for BBuy). The movie was totally worth all the hype and I think most people would enjoy it. It sucks that Heath has passed because it kills any chance of this amazing performance from re-appearing.
 
Oh god, I already feel dirtier reading this thread than I did the BB rottenwatch one. Hyperbole overload. Ive seen it crowned the "greatest movie ever" in about 20 posts already. Come on, guys. Really? It may be your new favorite or whatever, and thats all good, but to say its objectively the best movie ever made some hours after you saw it, while you are still on an adrenaline high, is a bit much.

Anyways, Im about 7 hours away from my screening now.
 
JB1981 said:
is there not a lot of the joker in the movie? my cousin said he wanted more of him.
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He was around plenty. However, he was so good that when he was off screen, you were just waiting for him to be back on screen.
 
Solo said:
Oh god, I already feel dirtier reading this thread than I did the BB rottenwatch one. Hyperbole overload. Ive seen it crowned the "greatest movie ever" in about 20 posts already. Come on, guys. Really? It may be your new favorite or whatever, and thats all good, but to say its objectively the best movie ever made some hours after you saw it, while you are still on an adrenaline high, is a bit much.

Anyways, Im about 7 hours away from my screening now.
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I was as skeptical as you are before seeing it. All this oscar talk about Heath Ledger's performance made me kind of laugh, I mean it seemed ridiculous. After seeing the movie I understand.
 
Caught the midnight IMAX showing last night at Channelside in Tampa. Completely lived up to the hype, and shattered by extremely high expectations. This film just immortalized Ledger. The man's performance will become legendary. Eckhart also did an amazing job.

Christ, this movie is a lot to take in. Gonna see it at least three more times this weekend. Not because I want to, but because I'm compelled to.
 
AzureRonin said:
I was as skeptical as you are before seeing it. All this oscar talk about Heath Ledger's performance made me kind of laugh, I mean it seemed ridiculous. After seeing the movie I understand.
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Again, Im not saying the buzz or awards hype is unwarranted; I havent seen it, so I cant give an opinion either way. Im just saying that in typical GAF fashion, things are going a bit off the deep end. You can almost see the inevitable backlash thread coming in about 3 months.

Why cant people just say stuff like "this was a fucking great movie" as opposed to "this is the greatest movie ever made!" around here?

Anyways, this is probably my last post until I see it later today. Ive managed to remain relatively spoiler-free up to now, so I dont want to stumble at the 11th hour.
 
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.c...hows-broke-star-wars-sith-numbers/[url][/url]

FRIDAY 7AM: Warner Bros is well on its way to making Hollywood history this weekend. That's because its opening comic book caper The Dark Knight is already on its way to breaking records left and right today even as it's still sparking a ticket-selling frenzy across North America. I've just been told that the latest Batman installment's midnight shows broke the record of $16 million set by Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith. "Over $17 million, and still counting," my insider says this morning. I should have final midnight numbers by 9:30AM. Across North America, theater owners are working feverishly to squeeze in more screenings to meet voracious moviegoer demand.
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Solo said:
Oh god, I already feel dirtier reading this thread than I did the BB rottenwatch one. Hyperbole overload. Ive seen it crowned the "greatest movie ever" in about 20 posts already. Come on, guys. Really? It may be your new favorite or whatever, and thats all good, but to say its objectively the best movie ever made some hours after you saw it, while you are still on an adrenaline high, is a bit much.

Anyways, Im about 7 hours away from my screening now.
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This was entirely valid before any of us had seen it, but it's harder to read right now than those comments are. And I understand a skeptic standpoint, but just retain it for 7 hours or so. I wouldn't go as far as greatest movie ever. I can't myself. But to dismiss it so entirely for someone prior to seeing the film is really an injustice. Don't read this thread, just see the film yourself. Then you can come back as outspoken as you feel you need to be.
 
Count Dookkake said:
Movie was okay. First was much better.
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Solo said:
Oh god, I already feel dirtier reading this thread than I did the BB rottenwatch one. Hyperbole overload. Ive seen it crowned the "greatest movie ever" in about 20 posts already. Come on, guys. Really? It may be your new favorite or whatever, and thats all good, but to say its objectively the best movie ever made some hours after you saw it, while you are still on an adrenaline high, is a bit much.

Anyways, Im about 7 hours away from my screening now.
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Is it the greatest movie ever? No. Absolutely not. However, I do think it is the best movie to have come out of a blockbuster Hollywood budget in a very long, long time.
 
Why do people argue about movie opinions as if movies are anything but subjective? There is no quantifiable "best movie ever"; if someone feels like a movie is the best, it is. It's the exact same way with songs and musical genres but people still insist on arguing what is the "best" and "worst" ever.
 
RyanDG said:
Is it the greatest movie ever? No. Absolutely not. However, I do think it is the best movie to have come out of a blockbuster Hollywood budget in a very long, long time.
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This is fine, I have no problems with anyone saying this.

WickedAngel said:
Why do people argue about movie opinions as if movies are anything but subjective? There is no quantifiable "best movie ever"; if someone feels like a movie is the best, it is. It's the exact same way with songs and musical genres but people still insist on arguing what is the "best" and "worst" ever.
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Ive said it before, but I think one of the defining tests of what makes a movie/game/whatever great is the test of time. TDK just came out, so there has been no time for reflection on it, and who knows how it will be looked upon in a year, 5 years, 10 years, etc.
 
I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, but yeah, it was okay. Marginally disappointing given how much I enjoyed the first one. Got kind of bored during the second act. There was a lot that I liked, but I think it could have been trimmed a bit and not so on-the-nose with its theme. I'd still recommend it to fans.
 
Awesome movie. It's a damn shame Ledger is gone.

Solo said:
. You can almost see the inevitable backlash thread coming in about 3 months.
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That will have very little to do with actual quality.

Solo said:
Why cant people just say stuff like "this was a fucking great movie" as opposed to "this is the greatest movie ever made!" around here?
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You've always seemed to have a problem with stuff like this, I noticed. But seriously, if this is the kind of thing that gets you worked up the Internet is a bad place for you.
 
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