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Rottenwatch: THE DARK KNIGHT

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sphinx said:
I guess this been asked/posted to death but does anyone think Ledger could get an oscar nomination/award?

it sure was impressive what he did.
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Based purely on merit, he should probably win. I'm a huge No Country For Old Men fan, but if Javier Bardem won for his (excellent) portrayal of Anton Chigurh last year, then Ledger should win this time around. I'm hardly saying that Bardem wasn't deserving, since he was my personal pick, but I do think Ledger was better.

Could there be supporting performances from now till the end of the year that could keep him from the win? Sure. But I just don't really see it. Ledger as the Joker was a devastatingly great performance, to the extent that even people who gave negative reviews to the film praised him (with like one exception).
 
Zeliard said:
That hasn't really been said at all. Mostly, people have been praising Nolan for managing to create a dark and fairly violent film and still somehow keep it PG-13 (which the film likely received only because of the lack of blood and language).
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I understand that the film is PG-13 for optimal ticket sales.

The whole bloodlessness thing was distracting, though. For a film that is so keen on showing exactly how brutal the Joker (and Batman) can be, cutting away from the most horrifying scenes is disingenuous.

I'm hoping for an R cut on the DVD/Bluray release.
 
epmode said:
This has probably been said to death already, but my biggest problem with the film is that it wasn't rated R.

edit: Oh, and that ridiculous cop in the tunnel chase that narrated EVERYTHING (kinda like the dude in the water control booth at the end of Batman Begins).
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IF THAT PRESSURE REACHES US THE WATER SUPPLY RIGHT ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY IS GONNA BLOW
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
I love how the driver said nothing and did not react to anything. I kept expecting him to be a dirty cop.
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Me too, I was expecting him to fuck things up the whole time. Definitely was NOT expecting that.
 
If the gangster's face getting up by the Joker was shown, it would be a bit scary.
Just alluding to it is enough.
I was thinking will they show it or not which was good fear.
 
epmode said:
I understand that the film is PG-13 for optimal ticket sales.

The whole bloodlessness thing was distracting, though. For a film that is so keen on showing exactly how brutal the Joker (and Batman) can be, cutting away from the most horrifying scenes is disingenuous.

I'm hoping for an R cut on the DVD/Bluray release.
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Me too, exactly my thoughts. Seeing Batman pummeling Joker's face and smashing his head against the window, hits to his head getting harder and harder with nothing to show for it physically really distracted me.

Darko said:
Id be scared shitless if I saw begins or dark knight as a kid :lol
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You must have been a pussy ass kid. This is why my son is going to get a strict diet of 80s action and thriller films from his fourth birthday onwards.
 
I also want to see this again because in spite of my expectations because it has been extremely good weather here in the netherlands, the theater was fucking packed. I had to sit in the 5th row with my dad sitting 1 seat in front of me because there weren't 2 adjacent seats available!

ARGH

But still awesome.
 
Mike Works said:
WOOOOO FUCK YEAH BRO THAT SHIT WAS BALLS LETS GET HIGH MOTHERFUCKER
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Dude what? :lol

Still I was sitting right next to the aisle or however u write it, and it kind of sucked having to see the movie from that perspective..but man it was such a great movie :).
 
Saw this for the first time yesterday on the IMAX (IMAX has been consistently sold out). The IMAX Watchmen trailer was definitely better than the one that I'd seen on youtube - really looking forward to it.

TDK was one hell of a comic book movie on one level and an absolutely fantastic movie as a whole. As far as the Batman series is concerned, Harvey Dent/Two-Face is still one of my favorite characters just because he always seemed to be the most human of Batman's Rogues, and Aaron Eckhart definitely delivered. Heath Ledger, of course, was such a joy to watch on-screen as he defined (to me at least) what the Joker represents in Batman's world. Gary Oldman was again, top-notch as Lt./Commissioner Gordon as he made me feel his weariness and frustruations as he continues to fight to clean up the streets of Gotham from behind the badge. Loved the interactions between Michael Caine & Christian Bale - I always loved the Bruce/Batman - Alfred dynamic between the two of them as well as the Bale/Freeman dynamic.

My only gripes would probably be that the film tended to drag in parts, but it did always help the set-up for later scenes as well as Bale's Batman voice. I understand that Batman needs a differentiating voice from Bruce Wayne, but still, I kinda sat there hating the voice he picked to be 'Batman'.
 
Scullibundo said:
Me too, exactly my thoughts. Seeing Batman pummeling Joker's face and smashing his head against the window, hits to his head getting harder and harder with nothing to show for it physically really distracted me.
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You watch too many horror movies.
 
SA-X said:
You watch too many horror movies.
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No I live in the real world. When somebody's head is smashed against a highly durable glass that CRACKS, followed by repeated sledgehammer punches to the face - they usually have something to show for it.
 
Scullibundo said:
No I live in the real world. When somebody's head is smashed against a highly durable glass that CRACKS, followed by repeated sledgehammer punches to the face - they usually have something to show for it.
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Well, I've been smacked head first into glass (that CRACKS! :p) without bleeding, but whatever. I just find people that complain that there isn't enough blood in movie scenes to be annoying.
 
I finally saw it last night, and as everyone has been saying, it was awesome film. Joker FTW.

Oh, and I could care less about blood. Yeah, I guess it would make things more brutal and realistic, but this is a Batman movie, and Dark Knight showed that you don't need an R-rating to make a creepy and powerful action film.

But whatever. I finally know the reasoning of its praise, and I can see why it's making a gazillion dollars at the box office.
 
Mike Works said:
don't even ACT like my post was out of place :lol
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Oh well, guess ur right :lol . I was drunk though, not high :(. My smoke buddies are on vacation and I dont smoke alone ( or rarely anyway :p )
 
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next please :D
 
Scullibundo said:
No I live in the real world. When somebody's head is smashed against a highly durable glass that CRACKS, followed by repeated sledgehammer punches to the face - they usually have something to show for it.
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In the real world, somebody who has their head cracked so hard would probably fall unconscious, or even die.
 
roosters93 said:
If the gangster's face getting up by the Joker was shown, it would be a bit scary.
Just alluding to it is enough.
I was thinking will they show it or not which was good fear.
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Speaking just for myself, I wasn't phased by that scene because I'd been there, done that with Pan's Labyrinth. Desensitization, I fear ):
 
Scullibundo said:
Me too, exactly my thoughts. Seeing Batman pummeling Joker's face and smashing his head against the window, hits to his head getting harder and harder with nothing to show for it physically really distracted me.
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I thought the exactly the same when this happened.

How eve more awesome would that scene have been had The Joker looked like this...

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or if the mouth slashing happened on camera like....

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I mean how hard can it be for studios to make PG-13 and R-Rated cuts of a film for the DVD/BD releases?

In a perfect world you'd get that option in the cinema.
 
Spinning Plates said:
I thought the exactly the same when this happened.

How eve more awesome would that scene have been had The Joker looked like this...



I mean how hard can it be for studios to make PG-13 and R-Rated cuts of a film for the DVD/BD releases?

In a perfect world you'd get that option in the cinema.
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I don't get why this stuff makes it more awesome. A movie can be without this kind if stuff - how does it really improve the story?

Moreover, it would have a lesser audience.
 
mrkgoo said:
I don't get why this stuff makes it more awesome. A movie can be without this kind if stuff - how does it really improve the story?

Moreover, it would have a lesser audience.
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Because as others have mentioned it took them out of the moment if only briefly.

The payoff to throwing the Joker around and fucking him up would have been seeing the mess made of his face, for me anyway.

Perhaps it's because I'm a fan of MMA/Boxing and am used to seeing the physical effects of someone that has taken a beating.
 
Guys, this post is for news about TDK, there is a lot of people here from countries where it wasn't released yet and don't want to know anything about it, even the tiniest of the details :( You have a spoilers thread here ;\
 
Ok Ok, it was a bit weird but you never know :lol

Two more weeks yet, I managed to not seen anything of this movie since the first trailer, no pics, no tv ads, no more videos :D
 
Darko said:
No lol

I usually do that when Im coming out of the theater and theres a lineup out side. :lol
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"What an ending! I can't believe Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker's father!"

I do it too
 
would they actually do another Catwoman film?

Maybe if they thought they could taste some of the fumes of THE DARK KNIGHT's success.
 
Well we all know the 2004 Catwoman movie was a disaster. But Jolie was basically the poster-girl for Wanted, and that exceeded expectations quite a bit for a lesser known comic, with an R rating at that. Using her would make a lot of sense if you wanted to give the franchise a "re-do." I'm thinking they might go the same route that Marvel did with The Incredible Hulk.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
Well we all know the 2004 Catwoman movie was a disaster. But Jolie was basically the poster-girl for Wanted, and that exceeded expectations quite a bit for a lesser known comic, with an R rating at that. Using her would make a lot of sense if you wanted to give the franchise a "re-do." I'm thinking they might go the same route that Marvel did with The Incredible Hulk.
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They should pay Bale a mountain of money to do a cameo....or not.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
They should pay Bale a mountain of money to do a cameo....or not.
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Seeing as I recall they tried asking for a cameo by Bale as Bateman in both American Psycho 2 and Rules of attraction which he flatly denied I think the man's well best a big pay-check now.
 
I went to go see it a 2nd time at IMAX. 30 minutes in, the image fucks up and starts getting extremely shaky (as if you were drunk). They shut it off, start it back up. Problem continues for ten minutes or so, I told my girlfriend lets go, she agreed. We go to the customer service desk, only about 5 people lined up complaining. We wait ten minutes and the line behind us grows to over 100 people :lol We each got 2 free tickets out of it :)
 
I don't think Nolan has ever heard an interview begin with "the real deal sex appeal":lol :lol he looks like he wants to laguh at how stupid it is



holy shit, Bale wants to rip this guy apart:lol
 
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