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Rottenwatch: WATCHMEN

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yes, i am retarded because i stop doing things i am not enjoying, even if i paid to do them. someone wipe the drool from my chin please.
 
I love the drama when opinions are debated. :lol Who cares if other people don't like it? If you like it, then love it. Make it your own, get it on Bluray and watch it in the nude, paint your penis blue while you watch it, it's all good guys.
 
Bishman said:
. And why the fuck would I skip the codec scenes? You learn a lot of the story and back story of the characters and storyline. And not to mention the humor.
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i rest my case...


also..people forget that a lot of folks just go to the movies close their eyes and point to the movie they will see. I have a group of co-workers that do this often. They all go to the movies, with no idea of what they want to see.

STILL...walking out of a MIDNIGHT SCREENING seems pretty stupid. Only die-hard fans should be intereted in staying up til 3 am to watch a movie.
 
I've walked out of

Shark's Tale
Tropic Thunder
The Number 23


All shit. I think it's pretty unconventional for a person to commit themselves to sitting through all movies they ever start. I sure as hell don't finish every book I pick up.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
I've walked out of

Shark's Tale
Tropic Thunder
The Number 23


All shit. I think it's pretty unconventional for a person to commit themselves to sitting through all movies they ever start. I sure as hell don't finish every book I pick up.
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WHAT.
 
omg rite said:
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WHAT.
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I was with 4 friends and we all unanimously agreed it sucked ass and left to eat awesome Indian food. I'm pretty sure none of us laughed even once during the 45 minutes or so we watched.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
I was with 4 friends and we all unanimously agreed it sucked ass and left to eat awesome Indian food. I'm pretty sure none of us laughed even once during the 45 minutes or so we watched.
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I didn't enjoy it too much, either.
 
JzeroT1437 said:
I was with 4 friends and we all unanimously agreed it sucked ass and left to eat awesome Indian food. I'm pretty sure none of us laughed even once during the 45 minutes or so we watched.
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Yeah, I agree. I didn't leave the theater, but I never really found it funny.
 
Replicant said:
Wow, wat? You don't seriously believe that what
Ozymandias tried to achieve was a good thing. I mean, I don't know how to stop an imminent nuclear war but looking for a bigger threat or making up a bigger threat to deal with it is not really the answer. Moreover, that involves the death of thousands of innocent people. A better solution could be as simple as removing the two biggest douches who were in control of politics at that moment (ie. the two presidents of the countries).

Also, most of the characters are not that well-written. There are attempts to make them look complex but they're not really that complex. There's not much layering even in Ozymandia. Or rather, we don't know much what motivated them to do what they do.
People don't just snap and develop a God complex like Ozy. Knowing what lead him to his present self would have made the film more interesting. Ditto with Comedian, Silk Spectre II, Nite Owl II. The only one whose motivation I can understand is strangely Dr.Manhattan. I think they did a pretty good job of explaining that he suffers from a sense of disattachment from other human beings and don't really give a damn about their plight. After years of being ignored by them, why should he care for them?
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lots of things like Ozy's change and his motivations are fleshed out in the GN.
 
When I was still in college I went to quite a few sneak previews, so you never knew what you'd get before going in... When it was something that didn't appeal to me I just walked out, big deal. Tickets were only €2 or 3. I remember walking out of Love Actually after 10 minutes or so
 
JzeroT1437 said:
I was with 4 friends and we all unanimously agreed it sucked ass and left to eat awesome Indian food. I'm pretty sure none of us laughed even once during the 45 minutes or so we watched.
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Indian food is way better than Tropic Thunder. Good move.
 
saw watchmen last night... it was better than I expected, which was very little. I am a huge fan of the comic, so, yes, the initial thrill of seeing something I'm so familiar with in action was very satisfying. however, I did have some (serious) problems with the film.

-there was way too much violence. perhaps I should of expected it as the director is the king of masturbatory gore, but it felt really out of place and hurt some of the views of some of the characters that inflicted it.
the alley scene was way too much, roarscharch's murder of the child molester was out-of-character

-the musical placement was almost comical. it really had the tedency to detract from otherwise strong scenes.
flight of the valkyries, Simon and garfunkle, Leonard cohen, etc

-the ending.
call me a purist, I missed the fuckin' squid.

all in all, a strong movie, much better than what I expected from snyder... still kind of curious how non-fans of the comic will react.
 
It's hard to gauge the interest of people who haven't read the book. It seems like the whole internet knows Watchmen's story:lol
 
Replicant said:
All because you got butthurt that your fave movie/comic got criticized? LOL, indeed and cry some moar. In fact, called the Waaahmbulance now.

If I went "Worst movie ever" then you have a case to be a drama-queen. But I clearly stated what I didn't like and what I liked.
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What are you going on about?
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
It's hard to gauge the interest of people who haven't read the book. It seems like the whole internet knows Watchmen's story:lol
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You havent responded to me yet, you bastard
 
My two major nitpicks with the movie (spoilers ahoy):

1. The reveal of The Comedian being Laurie's father was terribly executed and felt like it lacked resonance. The film didn't have the same effect of Laurie putting the pieces together as the book did. I have a feeling this will be better in the director's cut though

2. Taking Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" line out of Antarctica and out of Manhattan's mouth was a mistake. The reason the line had so much resonance in the GN was because it was Dr. Manhattan saying it.

Other than those two things, the Bubastis issue, the aforementioned bad old people makeup and the Nixon actor/makeup I feel this is as good a film adaptation of Watchmen as we could have gotten.
 
I loved this. I even prefer the ending over the graphic novel.

The pacing was kinda off but it should be better in the director's cut which I cannot fucking wait to see.
 
polyh3dron said:
Other than those two things, the Bubastis issue, the aforementioned bad old people makeup and the Nixon actor/makeup I feel this is as good a film adaptation of Watchmen as we could have gotten.
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I really don't think of it that way, it's kind of a bad adaptation, it only adapts the overall story and aesthetics. It even pussied out on giving us a similar shocking replacement for the squid, but I guess tons of corpses pilled on wouldn't fit with the cool violence shown throughout the movie.
 
Been thinking more about this. And really chafing a little at all the parts where Snyder inserted or extended fights that weren't there or were really short.

The biggest and lamest one being
the bits at the very end where they're having a superhero-fu fight while Ozymandias explains what he's up to. This especially felt weak to me when Night Owl pummels Ozy's face. I know exactly why they did it, because movie audiences need vengeance and punishment and Ozy isn't punished (physically at least) in the comic. Still, I found this kind of stuff really opposed to the spirit of the book. And if Snyder was so fricking strapped for time why did he feel the need to stretch four fight scenes out to silly lengths?

Anyway, I still urge all of you who haven't read the book to go read it. It's quite good. And you'll find there that the characters are more better fleshed out and a little more honest. Seems like Snyder trimmed all the stuff that makes Rorschach look like a petty monster and kept all the stuff that made him look like a principled bad-ass -- a little dishonest in my book.
 
Never read the graphic novel... never even heard about this until last year...

Went last night....

Was a good movie. Not what I expected in terms of story telling but it was actually kinda cool how they showed the history of all of them converging in the end. Will rent it again on Blu-ray but not one I need to own.

Kudos to Frank though as visually it was great as always.
 
Flynn said:
Also:

Why the fuck would the world's smartest man
use the title of a book on his desk as a password?
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yeah, i had issues with that in the comic.. the worlds smartest man should have easily been able to memorize a bunch of random characters and numbers.
 
quadriplegicjon said:
yeah, i had issues with that in the comic.. the worlds smartest man should have easily been able to memorize a bunch of random characters and numbers.
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At the very least Nite Owl had to reason this out before. I thought the device in the movie worsened the problem.
 
Flynn said:
At the very least Nite Owl had to reason this out before. I thought the device in the movie worsened the problem.
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I think the movie makes the assumption that it's audience is dumb, I mean, tilting the book wasn't enough, they had to bold the letters. But given how many times they beat you with an idea over and over, it's no surprise.
 
I really got a kick out of the part near the end
when Owl and Ror were heading to Karnac and All Along the Watchtower was playing. I always felt that quote at the end of the chapter set up such an epic finale and hoped they would use the Hendrix song in the movie :D
 
Lakitu said:
Tropic Thunder was awesome.
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Yep.

There are some people not old enough to remember Vietnam, the propaganda, and how hilariously ridiculous it was, not to mention the dozens of movies made about it since.

How can Watchmen fans not love Tropic Thunder? The Comedian, yes?
 
Loved this movie. A bit more time to breathe will be nice for some scene transitions which is why I'm dying for the disc release. The best moments in the book are also the best on film while other scenes are enriched via likable actors and great music.
 
Ozy
catching bullets was stupid in the movie and book, but it was better executed in the book with Nite Owl asking him if he really could catch bullets and Ozy just responding with an i'm-a-fucking-badass grin from ear to ear. Plus in the book he wasn't even really sure if it would work, he was surprised when it did.

anyway, I just saw it.. didn't hate it, but it had far more misses than hits to me. the action scenes were absolutely loathesome and snyder showed no restraint at all. yuck.

oh and I went by myself, since I saw the question brought up in the previous page. I don't see how movies are a social event when you're supposed to shut the fuck up and watch. as for someone to discuss it with afterwards isn't that what we're doing now?
 
Kastro said:
Ozy
catching bullets was stupid in the movie and book, but it was better executed in the book with Nite Owl asking him if he really could catch bullets and Ozy just responding with an i'm-a-fucking-badass grin from ear to ear. Plus in the book he wasn't even really sure if it would work, he was surprised when it did.

anyway, I just saw it.. didn't hate it, but it had far more misses than hits to me. the action scenes were absolutely loathesome and snyder showed no restraint at all. yuck.

oh and I went by myself, since I saw the question brought up in the previous page. I don't see how movies are a social event when you're supposed to shut the fuck up and watch. as for someone to discuss it with afterwards isn't that what we're doing now?
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I know a lot of people who go to movies alone. I do it sometimes. Only do it when none of my friends want to see the flick I wanna go to--tonight I have a slew of friends joining--but I don't feel uncomfortable going to a film by myself. It differentiates between groups--sometimes people sit and make fun of the movie, sometimes people just feel like they can't be alone when in the presence of couples, and sometimes its just a process of communal enjoyment.

But I don't think it's weird to go to a movie by yourself at all. Do you need people with you to watch a movie at home?
 
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