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Rottenwatch: WATCHMEN
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If you stay after the credits you can see him do meatspin on Mars.Flunkie said:
I liked it. Went with a bunch of friends. I'd recently read the book and enjoyed it enough (not a huge comic book person though unless you count Calvin and Hobbes), another in the party hadn't read the book at all and went in cold, and another was an absolute Watchman nut.
I thought the movie did a good job of telling the tale. They made some pretty good choices which seemed odd initially but worked out - the whole ending worked ok, and the changing of the 'thing' didn't change the overall message.
The 'non-reader' liked it as a decent movie on its own.
A lot of the comic book is layered symbolism which really wouldn't have worked on the big screen - all that Dead Freighter juxtaposition works well in boxes, but not in a more linear presentation. Maybe the bluray will try and weave them together more?
I liked some of the 80's touches too.
The only thing I really didn't like was rorschach's mask (spelling?) and his ninja ablities. He's an average joe, maybe a bit souped up. I can handle the athleticism from a directorial point of view (just amping it up for effect), but that mask was fucking stupid. What was wrong with the basic fucking mask?
I thought the movie did a good job of telling the tale. They made some pretty good choices which seemed odd initially but worked out - the whole ending worked ok, and the changing of the 'thing' didn't change the overall message.
The 'non-reader' liked it as a decent movie on its own.
A lot of the comic book is layered symbolism which really wouldn't have worked on the big screen - all that Dead Freighter juxtaposition works well in boxes, but not in a more linear presentation. Maybe the bluray will try and weave them together more?
I liked some of the 80's touches too.
The only thing I really didn't like was rorschach's mask (spelling?) and his ninja ablities. He's an average joe, maybe a bit souped up. I can handle the athleticism from a directorial point of view (just amping it up for effect), but that mask was fucking stupid. What was wrong with the basic fucking mask?
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What the hell are you talking about?mrklaw said:
I went yesterday and I liked it quite a bit.
The ending is about as believable as the original
lol) and most of the things I liked in the novel were presented in a good way.
Two things I didn´t like
1) The Comedian shooting JFK, because heavily hinted at =!= actual fact
2) Killing the top-knots in the brawl. Really? Other vigilantes simply killing people took away from Rorschach´s role as the only one crossing this line.
And wasn´t the whole point of his mask to be changing? Some people here :lol
The ending is about as believable as the original
lol) and most of the things I liked in the novel were presented in a good way. Two things I didn´t like
1) The Comedian shooting JFK, because heavily hinted at =!= actual fact
2) Killing the top-knots in the brawl. Really? Other vigilantes simply killing people took away from Rorschach´s role as the only one crossing this line.
And wasn´t the whole point of his mask to be changing? Some people here :lol
fistfulofmetal
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Binabik15 said:
killing people in self defense is a little different than killing then mutilating a handcuffed prisoner.
Robot Without A Cause
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Rorschach has the same mask in the book and in the movie, what are you talking about?mrklaw said:
AndresON777
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Battersea Power Station said:
:lol
First person I meet that doesnt like Rorschach's mask.
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between a quark and a baryon
fistfulofmetal said:
or hurting random people to just get information.
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Robot Without A Cause said:
I assume he means the pattern kept changing, which you couldn't see it doing that in the book?
Yeah, Rorschach is still more extreme, but I didn´t like it personally.
They seemed to handle themselves pretty good without killing their attackers, so it seemed a bit over the top to me. And over the top violent justice serving seems to be more Rorscharch to me. His whole "I was young, let them live" thing was affected by this, IMO.
The Comedian is just a ruthless killer.
But I´m not a Watchmen expert.
They seemed to handle themselves pretty good without killing their attackers, so it seemed a bit over the top to me. And over the top violent justice serving seems to be more Rorscharch to me. His whole "I was young, let them live" thing was affected by this, IMO.
The Comedian is just a ruthless killer.
But I´m not a Watchmen expert.
Furret said:
I couldn't. I'm sorry I upset so many people by not noticing. Its a fucking rorscahe pattern (doing it deliberately now), so I just assumed they were all the same - i.e. some splodges. Like I said, I only read it recently as I was curious before watching the film
I thought the book suggested he was a fairly normal guy - physically at least (clearly not mentally).
As penance, I will mention something else I didn't like - the birth of Rorschach. The book version is much more controlled and deliberate, and pretty brutal in its own way. The movie version is too violent IMO.
And I liked the sex scene. I thought it was done really nicely. The music helped it not take itself too seriously.
Saw it last night with a few friends... its the first movie ive seen AFTER ive read the book...the adaptation was very faithful indeed considering what most "comic book" movies do. I actually liked the ending much more than the one in the novel...it keeps the focus within the group of characters instead of throwing in a seemingly random event...another friend also agreed.
I HATED the actor they picked to play Adrian...his acting was boring and he deffinately didnt look anywhere near as strong or imposing as he should have.
I HATED the actor they picked to play Adrian...his acting was boring and he deffinately didnt look anywhere near as strong or imposing as he should have.
I saw the Saturday after opening, it was pretty good. Not great, epic or classic but a competent super hero flick to be sure. A few of the characters were brutally annoying(including Dr. Manhattan the second half of the movie) aside from Rorshach and The Comedian the casting could have been better across the board.
The funny thing is towards the end when Manhattan says something such as
. My reaction was I would've much rather watched 3 hours about that. :lol
The funny thing is towards the end when Manhattan says something such as
"I think I'll explore some other galaxies...and maybe even create some life of my own"
bggrthnjsus
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i think it's always the nudity with the mpaa damn prudesbionic77 said:
Saw it a second time yesterday and noticed some stuff I didn't the first time. Didn't know it was Rorschach holding that sign picketing everything. (Never read the GN, obviously.)
yeah, my buddy hadn't seen it and wanted to, so I obliged and went with him. Fun times. Still think the casting of Comedian and Rorschach was awesome. Best scene in the movie was them putting down the riot. I just don't know what else to say, haha.
yeah, my buddy hadn't seen it and wanted to, so I obliged and went with him. Fun times. Still think the casting of Comedian and Rorschach was awesome. Best scene in the movie was them putting down the riot. I just don't know what else to say, haha.
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Binabik15 said:
I'm definitely buying the Blu-Ray, and I'd definitely be willing to go again if someone I knew wanted to go.
Battersea Power Station
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I think plain-statedness was fine in that regard. You can't fit in every single panel of the Comedian's character development into the movie, so the JFK assassination was included to show what kind of man Blake is.
Besides, just because it's a fascinating conspiracy theory in our world doesn't mean that it holds the same status in the Watchmen world. "Costumed heroes" seem to play a HUGE part in the history of that alternate America.
Besides, just because it's a fascinating conspiracy theory in our world doesn't mean that it holds the same status in the Watchmen world. "Costumed heroes" seem to play a HUGE part in the history of that alternate America.
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If it's any consolation, they didn't show him firing the shot. He could've been the back-up shooter or just on his way to the gun range that day or holding a gun for a buddy while he was taking a leak or any number of theories that will ultimately not please you anyways.Flynn said:
hokahey said:
well it certainly wasn't obvious in the novel... i had a feeling id seen his face before but it was only when i went back to the first chapter and spotted him again that i figured it out..unfortunately you cant rewind the film in the middle of the cinema and say "Look everyone..it was him all along!"
making things totally clear and obvious to the viewer isn't always the right way.
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That was one problem I had. Having read the book, I knew it was Rorschach holding the signs, but I didn't think there was enough attention brought to it. When I read the book, I remembered immediately thinking upon him being unmasked "Holy shit, is he that nut job who was carrying the signs around at the newsstand preaching the end of the world!?" Then, I flipped back to verify and thought it was a really cool moment, as I hadn't seen that coming.whytemyke said:
In the film, the reveal of Walter Kovacs as Rorschach really didn't have much of an impact.
jett said:
Only one?
Anyway.
Here's something for the BIG BLUE PENIS CROWD. The Dr. Manhattan Video Game.
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mrklaw said:
There's a section in the book talking about the actual mask, how it's made from some super awesome dress that constantly changes it's pattern. due to science. I didn't notice his match changing that much either.
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Steve Youngblood said:
Agreed. IIRC the film only showed him holding a sign up close once, right? He was there in the high shot at the beggining, but only briefly. I remember there being one major missed oppurtunity to show him picketing in the movie, and being quite dissapointed by that, but I don't remember where it was.
Steve Youngblood said:
Even cooler - book spoiler
Rorschach talks to Moloch and says he can contact him by leaving a message in the trash across from a particular diner. Later, in a shot from a scene in the diner, in the background you see End-is-nigh picket guy rummaging through the trash across the street
Stuff like this - for all the talk that it is unfilmable, the entire book is presented like a movie, with flashbacks, crossfade transitions, easter eggs, 'camera' angles and so on.
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