sixteen-bit
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That stage is fire.
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Roy (our boy) & Ryu confirmed for Smash Bros
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That stage is fire.
I miss BiTF since there has been so much material for Sm4sh that Matt could have worked in.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
He did explain it before though, that there are people who are fond of clonedorf that he made the ultimate parity that is changing some properties of the A moves like what he did to Falco.
The best is just make Ganon. The game recognizes Ganon and Ganondorf are different.
Mithos
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I guess it works, not a true Street Fighter but a game on a Nintendo home console after SNES.
The hype is a valuable and we can only get it from the holy game men
GET YOUR OWN DAMN HYPE, THIS IS MINE
But sir, I have no hype and it is lonely, so lonely
YOU THINK I CARE BEAT IT KID
Sir, don't you know you were once a boy just like me and i am lonely and so cold
AW, DAMN IT YOU SCAMP GET IN HERE
I love you sir
YOURE NOT SO BAD YOURSELF KID
KelpNugatCrunch
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I would like to see them go in that direction with him but Ganondorf plays so differently than Falcon now it's no longer accurate to call him a clone. Even in melee there were a lot of things that differentiated them aside from Ganon just being a slower Falcon. But now?
They're almost entirely separate characters the same way Ike plays somewhat similarly to Marth but is still unique.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I don't think you understand how game design works lol. Also, Ganondorf is never getting changed, he's perfect the way he is!
I think it doesn't bother me that much because it still looks way better than his face did at any point in SF4.
I don't think they removed him from the main game, you are reading my post wrong (and saying i'm trolling, really?)
Just saying that Lucas is pretty much unchanged from Brawl and is practically a semi-clone of Ness already. There is no real reason as to why they couldn't have included him along with Ness, it would have been very little effort, especially since they seem to have added Dark Pit and others at the last minute too (I have no problem with clone characters.. well, except Roy)
If they had no plans to add him and added him as DLC because of fan backlash, sure I get that, but I see no reason why he wasn't included anyway.
The heck's a Raichu.
Monocle
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Had to tune out there, sorry. Don't hate on one of the best original games of the last two generations duder. TW101 is a masterpiece. Flawed but brilliant.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Oh? Okay, see that's something I'd never heard before. Fire Emblem fans always gave me the impression it wasn't good. Which is why I found it so confusing.
Blackquill
Member
yeah, actually I hoped to see him like that in Smash
Fan demand is a legitimate reason though. Combine that with the fact that he's an easy character to bring back and I don't see why they wouldn't bring back Roy. Make a large number of fans happy with a little amount of work. Fighting game characters take a lot of time and money after all.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Okay, but it's also a game that barely anyone played on a system that barely anyone bought. As opposed to Street Fighter II which was so popular that it basically started a genre
ShockingAlberto
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It's probably pertinent to mention that the best selling version of Super Street Fighter IV was on a Nintendo system.
Once a snash bro, always a smash bro.
He's the original marth clone
plus he probably got a moveset makeover.
I always perfered his up close gameplay compared to marth's reliance on tippers despite him being worse.
Flare blade
......fire effect adds flash lol.
i know its really pathetic.
I totally get that. As someone with no nostalgic attachment to the character though, it does feel a tad lazy and uncreative, especially since I was really excited at the prospect of DLC fighters and have been disappointed so far.
SatoAilDarko
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They look cool. Do Ryu is only slightly above Snake in importance on Nintendo consoles.
Dimitri LH
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This leak just obliterated my sleeping schedule, too excited for tomorrow!
Gawd Damnit.....
Gawd Damnit.....
blitzwolf215
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The problem isn't Roy's character, its his usefulness in his own game that was the problem.
Blackquill
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Hopefully they have proper trailers for them with the proper music.
Maintenance
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ShockingAlberto
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Neither Mewtwo or Lucas got proper trailers.
Ryu might because he's an actual newcomer to the series.
It's either or. I don't care which of the Marth clones we have, but having both is pointless IMO. At very least Roy is better differentiated from Marth than Lucina.
Beelzebufo
Banned
yep, all but confirmed that this is the best smash direct yet !
Starwolf_UK
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The Roy ones refences to FE6 cast members I think they are as follows:
Red: Alan/Lilina
Green: Lance
Purple/Pinkish: Marcus
Light Blue: Thany (or one of the other Pegusus girls)
Dark purple: Sofia/Idoun
Light purple pink: Clarine/Cecilia
Gold: Guinevere
If only Roy had hair colour changes it would make some of those easier/more definitative.
They could probably do something similar, especially since this Roy is based partly on the Awakening design - which wasn't the character himself, but an Einherjar card. Roy being replaced by an inanimate object would fit perfectly with what's happened to him so far.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
nah not trolling, just comparing the post to something that is used for trolling
The thing is though, Dark Pit is really just an alt costume turned playable. Same with Lucina and Dr. Mario. Their skeleton and animation are even derived from the original. People who analyzed character models agreed that Sakurai and his team really did build the characters from the scratch up, regardless even if they're returning characters, and Lucas, like Wolf, don't share the same animations with their "originals". They had to be recreated.
If they had more time in their hands we'd probably see Lucas and Wolf along the game but they weren't high priority. Hell, I'm not even expecting my main Wolf to come back even!
Green boobies.
Tangentially, it's weird that they never followed up on that with other fighting game ports. I know it's been said a zillion times but still.
Seven Force
Banned
It is? Last I checked, the 3DS version was at 1.2m to the conosle/PC version's 1.9m.
(Unless you mean on a single platform, in which case yeah, you're right.)
There'll probably be one more round of DLC with Wolf+A ballot character. I wouldn't lose hope yet.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Really?
ShockingAlberto
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Yeah, single platform.
Monocle
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I don't think popularity is necessarily a good reason to include a character in Smash 4 given the many alternatives. Ryu is a safe and easy choice, guaranteed to be a hit with a lot of gamers. I wish Sakurai would be a little more daring and inventive. Considering all of Smash 4's clones, and characters from big Nintendo franchises, and gaming icons like Pac-Man, its roster would benefit from more offbeat and fresh characters like Wonder Red. If he played well, people would use him. It doesn't matter that he's not a legendary character.
I understand how you could be disappointed, but you don't need nostalgic attachment to understand the reasoning behind returning characters coming back as DLC. It makes sense whether you're a fan of the characters or not.
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