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Kojima demanded it for Z.O.E. 3.D.S

 

[Boney]

hah, wow. I just saw a UK commercial with the slogan "this is not DS, this is 3DS." I can't wait until they change that to "this is not 3DS, this is 3DS with an additional analog stick."

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

How did this thread get to almost 700 posts? The scary thing is a great portion of you are actually believing this tabloidesque trash and letting it influence how you feel about buying a 3DS.

 

[trinest]

To be honest, rumour aside, if Nintendo where to scrap the 3DS and come out with a new device which has some hype and imagnation behind it like the original DS then I'd be all for it.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

At least then it was "Sonic is way cooler than that kiddy Mario game" or "my version of Mortal Kombat has BLOOD" and not "my system has more buttons than yours!"

I mean not really........Arguing Sonic is less kiddy than Mario and my version is better because it has blood seem pretty petty and silly.

At least the amount of buttons actually affects how a game plays.

Although both arguements are rather petty anyway.

 

[KAL2006]

Once I found out that the 3DS applies some anti aliasing when you go into 2D mode I can't decide which I like more.



I find the Sony fans' delight in the insane input options about as frothing mad as the hype for the Wii was.

How can you compar the input options to wii the wii had motion which developers found hard to implement to their games or good ideas with vita sony are are bringing in basic functions developers are used to such as dual analogs which most games are designed to use this gen pretty much a standard also cqpqcotive touchscreen which is a standard in the mobile gaming space 3ds is lacking both of those things

 

[Gravijah]

At least then it was "Sonic is way cooler than that kiddy Mario game" or "my version of Mortal Kombat has BLOOD" and not "my system has more buttons than yours!"

why do you think they came out with the 6 button pad for the genny?

 

[dream]

To be honest, rumour aside, if Nintendo where to scrap the 3DS and come out with a new device which has some hype and imagnation behind it like the original DS then I'd be all for it.

That does seem like the best solution.

I realize they're in bad shape but, man, that UK commercial just seemed so desperate and it would probably be a better idea to just wash their hands of the whole 3DS thing.

 

[jackdoe]

It just sounds fake as hell and I don't see them doing it. Especially since Sony didn't do it with the PSP when it became abundantly clear it needed a second analog stick for a majority of games. Sony knew that it just wasn't a feasible option to segment an existing user base like that and I'm sure Nintendo knows it too.

 

[Piercedveil]

I think the whole "re-launching with a different name" thing is bs. The analog stick at least sounds realistic, but I doubt that also.

 

[HYDE]

Single Analog Ambassadors!

best post wins the best post. /thread

 

[Fantastical]

Vita has everything 3DS has except 3D (and Nintendo's 1st party obviously). There is no subjectivity unless you love 3D that much, Vita is the better device technologically speaking.

Holy shit! Sony to include second screen at the last minute? CLAMSHELL DESIGN CONFIRMED!

 

[jman2050]

That does seem like the best solution.

I realize they're in bad shape but, man, that UK commercial just seemed so desperate and it would probably be a better idea to just wash their hands of the whole 3DS thing.

For goodness' sake it hasn't even been half a year.

 

[Raonak]

Lolwut...

the only way i can see this remotely happening is with some sort of cradle.

 

[Raziel]

You know what would be better than an analog stick for camera control? Not needing to mess with the camera in the first place so you don't have to take your thumb off of the buttons and stop the gameplay. D-pad, touchscreen, analog stick -- all of them are poor implementations of camera control.

Yes.

No.

 

[bobbytkc]

You know what would be better than an analog stick for camera control? Not needing to mess with the camera in the first place so you don't have to take your thumb off of the buttons and stop the gameplay. D-pad, touchscreen, analog stick -- all of them are poor implementations of camera control.

what. the. fuck.

I'd like to see you design a first person game where you don't need to move the camera.

go ahead. try it.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

How can you compar the input options to wii the wii had motion which developers found hard to implement to their games or good ideas with vita sony are are bringing in basic functions developers are used to such as dual analogs which most games are designed to use this gen pretty much a standard also cqpqcotive touchscreen which is a standard in the mobile gaming space 3ds is lacking both of those things

Two touch pads smacks of insanity. Or hubris. Or badassery. I haven't made up my mind about the Vita because the software isn't out yet, but your intense optimism is baffling to me.

And for the love of god please go find a computer.

what. the. fuck.

I'd like to see you design a first person game where you don't need to move the camera.

go ahead. try it.

Rail shooter

I think the whole "re-launching with a different name" thing is bs. The analog stick at least sounds realistic, but I doubt that also.

No it doesn't.

 

[boiled goose]

hope it is true.

would fix a major design flaw with 3ds.

sony did it with the ps1, not sure why this would be so bad.

 

[onken]

Wouldn't it make sense to see how the market reacts to the price drop before hitting the panic button?

Spoiler

again, lol

 

[njean777]

I hope this is not true, if so I will be majorly pissed off.

 

[Duxxy3]

How did this thread get to almost 700 posts? The scary thing is a great portion of you are actually believing this tabloidesque trash and letting it influence how you feel about buying a 3DS.

The source has been reliable in the past.

 

[FoneBone]

How can you compar the input options to wii the wii had motion which developers found hard to implement to their games or good ideas with vita sony are are bringing in basic functions developers are used to such as dual analogs which most games are designed to use this gen pretty much a standard also cqpqcotive touchscreen which is a standard in the mobile gaming space 3ds is lacking both of those things

I don't know what kind of keyboard you're using that doesn't have a period or an enter key, but stop it

To be honest, rumour aside, if Nintendo where to scrap the 3DS and come out with a new device which has some hype and imagnation behind it like the original DS then I'd be all for it.

Scrapping the 3DS outright would make more sense than an actual "rebranding." Not that I see it happening, mind you.

 

[Fantastical]

That does seem like the best solution.

I realize they're in bad shape but, man, that UK commercial just seemed so desperate and it would probably be a better idea to just wash their hands of the whole 3DS thing.

Holy fucking shit.

GAF... I honestly don't understand anymore. At $249.99 and without any games a device isn't selling 5 months out of the gate. KILL IT!

 

[Gospel]

sony did it with the ps1, not sure why this would be so bad.

that's





a controller.

 

[KAL2006]

You know what would be better than an analog stick for camera control? Not needing to mess with the camera in the first place so you don't have to take your thumb off of the buttons and stop the gameplay. D-pad, touchscreen, analog stick -- all of them are poor implementations of camera control.

This is silly so your are saying it is better to give developers less options i think developers hould have all the tools to make anytype
Of game they want to make and not be restricted for example what if a game like assassins creed o ly works good with dual analogs you could say well the developer should make a better auto camera but what if it is a challenge for the developer to do this and it makes the developer to not even bother to attemp it

 

[Futureman]

hope it is true.

would fix a major design flaw with 3ds.

sony did it with the ps1, not sure why this would be so bad.

Dual Shock $30.

 

[bobbytkc]

Rail shooter

okay. I stand corrected, you can do it. but clearly, a rail shooter is not a better solution than being able to move the camera around.

 

[Jonnyram]

Fanboy jizzlobbing.

 

[jackdoe]

I hope this is not true, if so I will be majorly pissed off.

It sounds fake, but I too will be pissed off if true. They'd have to create a secondary ambassador program for the people who bought the right analog stickless 3DS owners to sate all the anger.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

The source has been reliable in the past.

The Enquirer has been reliable a few times as well doesn't mean much.

 

[legacyzero]

The word "DONGLE" makes me giggle.

Anyway, I dont know If I speak for myself on this, but I could almost go without touch screen if I had a second dongle (hehe). It would almost seem weird to use it if I had another stick.

 

[jman2050]

This is silly so your are saying it is better to give developers less options i think developers hould have all the tools to make anytype

You're right, that's why all developers specifically design their games for the PC.

Wait...

 

[FoneBone]

Dual Shock $30.

Anybody could buy a Dual Shock for their PSX. This is different (since I can't see any way an attachable analog stick could work without somehow crippling the system).

 

[KAL2006]

I don't know what kind of keyboard you're using that doesn't have a period or an enter key, but stop it


Scrapping the 3DS outright would make more sense than an actual "rebranding." Not that I see it happening, mind you.

Sorry i am going to sleep now was using my iphone and am to lazy to use commas and full stops on the keypad

 

[dream]

Holy fucking shit.

GAF... I honestly don't understand anymore. At $249.99 and without any games a device isn't selling 5 months out of the gate. KILL IT!

Every time you hear about the 3DS in the press, it's always in conjunction with Nintendo's stock dropping. Why hold on to the brand when nobody cares about it at best and consider it a complete failure at worst?

 

[jman2050]

Every time you hear about the 3DS in the press, it's always in conjunction with Nintendo's stock dropping. Why hold on to the brand when nobody cares about it at best and consider it a complete failure at worst?

Five. Months.

 

[jackdoe]

The word "DONGLE" makes me giggle.

Anyway, I dont know If I speak for myself on this, but I could almost go without touch screen if I had a second dongle (hehe). It would almost seem weird to use it if I had another stick.

That's not completely true, but it would definitely make the use of a stylus almost nonexistant.

Anybody could buy a Dual Shock for their PSX. This is different (since I can't see any way an attachable analog stick could work without somehow crippling the system).

Exactly. What port would you connect it to in the first place? It's not like the 3DS has a wealth of ports in which to connect add-ons. A wireless add-on would be equally bad.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

okay. I stand corrected, you can do it. but clearly, a rail shooter is not a better solution than being able to move the camera around.

I agree, though the touch pad was a serviceable though cramp inducing option on the DS. It's sad how good I got at Metroid Prime Hunters. It wasn't great but it worked.

In any case, we'll see if the Vita shows a demand for portable first person shooters. Can't really base it on how badly lackluster efforts have been so far. I'm simply skeptical of AngryFork's view that not only does the market exist, and that the handheld and console markets are not only overlapping, but are the same market.

 

[ZZMitch]

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

 

[RurouniZel]

what. the. fuck.

I'd like to see you design a first person game where you don't need to move the camera.

go ahead. try it.

 

[Shalashaska161]

Every time you hear about the 3DS in the press, it's always in conjunction with Nintendo's stock dropping. Why hold on to the brand when nobody cares about it at best and consider it a complete failure at worst?

Because it's not? At all? The thing so 200k units last week in Japan alone, people are obviously interested in it. It just has weak software right now, like every console does at launch. At least give it a Christmas before you go around calling it dead.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

what. the. fuck.

I'd like to see you design a first person game where you don't need to move the camera.

go ahead. try it.

Ehh, Metroid Prime basically does it.


edit: Beaten

 

[StuBurns]

The 3DS is far from dead. I think Nintendo were premature to drop the price before they saw the affect of Mario and holiday sales personally.

This rumour makes no sense for many reasons, but the biggest is Nintendo just played their move, they haven't seen the results yet, they would not be cranking on a something so radical without seeing the result of this price cut. And given Nintendo's open letters, they're already begging for their fans forgiveness, I don't think they'd pull an FU this grand on top of the last one.

 

[HYDE]

I hope this is not true, if so I will be majorly pissed off.

I hope the new revision rumor is true, since a 3DS with dual analogs should have been announced day one. The 3DS should look like it accompanies the Wii U and shares functionality with it.

Nintendo always having a handheld a generation behind (in graphics) is fine, but why do they always have to have a DS control input 2 generations behind?

 

[dream]

When you have to run commercials like this, what is the point in keeping the brand?

What's the downside to Nintendo releasing this new model and relaunching it as something that doesn't have the perception of failure attached to it?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

So basically we have a few possibilities here:

1) The rumor is totally true and right now every 3DS in homes, on store shelves, and every 3DS being sold now until winter 2012, is obsolete.

2) The rumor is 100% false - 01.net is making it up, they are getting fed bad information, or they are misunderstanding the information they are getting.

3) Nintendo is preparing a contingency plan if 3DS sales do not pick up. Iwata asked for four months, it has been less than one. 3DS sales have picked up in the short term after the price drop. Assuming it does not dip down to pre-price drop levels again, then there does not seem to be a need to relaunch the brand again.

Is this fair?

 

[bobbytkc]

Ehh, Metroid Prime basically does it.


edit: Beaten

you move the camera in metroid prime. that is how you look around.

 

[Fantastical]

Every time you hear about the 3DS in the press, it's always in conjunction with Nintendo's stock dropping. Why hold on to the brand when nobody cares about it at best and consider it a complete failure at worst?

Because there are huge consequences for doing this. Wouldn't abandoning a product completely cause your stocks to drop even more? You make your fanbase angry and hesitant to buy the next product. You would lose millions upon millions of dollars and upset developers who have already developed or have games in development for the system, making them very hesitant to invest millions to create games for the next system.

It just doesn't make sense to kill this before it sees its first holiday season. You aren't even giving it a chance. Maybe the answer to the problem is Mario and Pokemon. It doesn't matter because you've already cancelled the system.

If Nintendo scraps this completely it won't be before the second birthday of the system... I mean I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff, so please correct me if my reasoning doesn't make sense, but I just don't understand why they would scrap it so soon.

 

[AzureNightmare]

So basically we have a few possibilities here:

1) The rumor is totally true and right now every 3DS in homes, on store shelves, and every 3DS being sold now until winter 2012, is obsolete.

2) The rumor is 100% false - 01.net is making it up, they are getting fed bad information, or they are misunderstanding the information they are getting.

3) Nintendo is preparing a contingency plan if 3DS sales do not pick up. Iwata asked for four months, it has been less than one. 3DS sales have picked up in the short term after the price drop. Assuming it does not dip down to pre-price drop levels again, then there does not seem to be a need to relaunch the brand again.

Is this fair?

#2 sounds about right.

 

[Shalashaska161]

#2 sounds about right.

No way man can't you see from that UK ad that Nintendo has completely given up? The system is dead in the water, Nintendo going third party confirmed.