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Rumor: 3DS to get right analog stick dongle, relaunch 2012 w/ new name [Updated]

It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.

Just as fun as going back and reading the DS and Wii doom threads.
 
AbsoluteZero said:
It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.

Just as fun as going back and reading the DS and Wii doom threads.
I have no idea what you're talking about. The DS and Wii doom threads were correct, as both systems bombed completely and had no games on them, proving that no one wants touch screen games or motion control games respectively.[/delusion]

But yeah, this news reeks of bullshit.
 
AbsoluteZero said:
It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.

Just as fun as going back and reading the DS and Wii doom threads.

Agreed. How rosy did the future look for the DS in spring 2005, just six months after its release?
 
AbsoluteZero said:
It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.

Just as fun as going back and reading the DS and Wii doom threads.

or the old PS3 threads when people were convinced it would bounce back and triumph with enough wait
 
AbsoluteZero said:
It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.
I wonder if people said the same about the Gamecube.
 
AzureNightmare said:
Nice try, but your take unfortunately still is feeding on the hope that a false rumor is actually true.

Considering the source, I think it's definitely possible. And I don't know if hope is necessarily the right word here...

It's a bit ludicrous that the gaming media are already basically treating it as fact though. I guess people are always willing to expect the worst from Nintendo.
 
Orayn said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. The DS and Wii doom threads were correct, as both systems bombed completely and had no games on them, proving that no one wants touch screen games or motion control games respectively.[/delusion]

But yeah, this news reeks of bullshit.

Both Wii and DS had a new gimmick, the 3DS is lacking a new gimmick casuals will be all over. No doubt touch and motion were revolutionary, I just have trouble seeing anything like that on 3DS. It's just more of the same, heck they didn't even implement the most popular standard controls (capacitive touchscreen = smartphones, dual analogs = hd consoles). Combined with the fact that smartphones will eat into some of the casual games that were so popular on DS and Vita/PSP may eat into some of the hardcore games (after all PSP is a top seller in Japan). But of course if I have to predict, I still bet 3DS will sell gangbusters but not on the level of the original DS, the reason I think this is because Nintendo hasn't ever failed with a handheld system that had Pokemon and Mario on it.
 
Duane Cunningham said:
Did you know that Nintendo has released three systems since then? Why didn't you just say Virtual Boy?
Of course, I know about all their 3 systems released, but I wanted to keep it a little current.
 
This is an awful thread. It is absolutely not true, and there is no "add on" you could throw on, nor will a new handheld be coming out next year.

Both Wii and DS had a new gimmick, the 3DS is lacking a new gimmick casuals will be all over. No doubt touch and motion were revolutionary, I just have trouble seeing anything like that on 3DS. It's just more of the same, heck they didn't even implement the most popular standard controls (capacitive touchscreen = smartphones, dual analogs = hd consoles).

You have buttons and sticks/dpads on your gaming handhelds. You don't need multitouch like you do on smartphones. I don't understand this mentality.
 
Wow, I'm completely appalled by the amount of stupidity in this thread. I understand that this site had some accurate information in the past, but in this case common sense says that this rumor is a load of crap. First of all, how would this attachment even work? I don't see how it would. Secondly, the N64, DS, PSP, Wii all lack(ed) a second analog stick and still have amazing games. I don't see why Nintendo would suddenly think that they need to add a second stick.

Also, it amazes me that so many people are talking about this as if Nintendo announced this themselves. It's just a rumor and nothing more.
 
Neon_Icarus said:
Considering the source, I think it's definitely possible. And I don't know if hope is necessarily the right word here...

It's a bit ludicrous that the gaming media are already basically treating it as fact though. I guess people are always willing to expect the worst from Nintendo.
Considering the source, they've been wrong multiple times before, so its best to treat it as pure bullshit.
 
AbsoluteZero said:
It's going to be fun to look back at the last three months worth of threads about the 3DS' doom a year from now when the thing is selling gangbusters.

Just as fun as going back and reading the DS and Wii doom threads.
I don't really think Nintendo did the 3DS any favors with the extreme price cut. Price had some, but not all, to do with the 3DS performance.

With the new $169 price it's now directly lumped in with the other DS revisions. There is very little to differentiate it for consumers. In the end, it's just going to extend the life of the DS, not create a new five year cycle for development like all new handhelds/consoles do.

But hey, what do I know huh?
 
.la1n said:
Now if somehow this would cause a ripple effect throughout Nintendo and by the grace of the elder gods Nintendo changes the stupid WiiU name.
I hope they do. The name won't confuse GAFers, but it will confuse average consumers
 
chubigans said:
I don't really think Nintendo did the 3DS any favors with the extreme price cut. Price had some, but not all, to do with the 3DS performance.

With the new $169 price it's now directly lumped in with the other DS revisions. There is very little to differentiate it for consumers. In the end, it's just going to extend the life of the DS, not create a new five year cycle for development like all new handhelds/consoles do.

But hey, what do I know huh?

So the price cut to match the price with the current hi-end DS model will... make... the DS sell better? ......
 
chubigans said:
I don't really think Nintendo did the 3DS any favors with the extreme price cut. Price had some, but not all, to do with the 3DS performance.

With the new $169 price it's now directly lumped in with the other DS revisions. There is very little to differentiate it for consumers. In the end, it's just going to extend the life of the DS, not create a new five year cycle for development like all new handhelds/consoles do.

But hey, what do I know huh?
Ya the most surprising thing about the price cut was how Nintendo didn't drop the price of the older DS. Really odd decision there.
 
chubigans said:
I don't really think Nintendo did the 3DS any favors with the extreme price cut. Price had some, but not all, to do with the 3DS performance.

With the new $169 price it's now directly lumped in with the other DS revisions. There is very little to differentiate it for consumers. In the end, it's just going to extend the life of the DS, not create a new five year cycle for development like all new handhelds/consoles do.

But hey, what do I know huh?

Until all of a sudden the games people want to play can only be played on the new hardware, of course.
 
Shalashaska161 said:
Ya the most surprising thing about the price cut was how Nintendo didn't drop the price of the older DS. Really odd decision there.

No, they are killing of DSi by doing that. Not an odd decision if you think about it.
 
upJTboogie said:
Well the GBA was like 2 generations ago, I'm only mentioning a last gen console.

You are comparing a hand-held to a console.

A hand-held that is in no way trending as bad as the Gamecube. That is in fact, reacting surprisingly well to the price-drop. A hand-held that, if you look at any solid data, will not perform at low levels like the Gamecube.

Also Gamecube /GBA are in the same generation, same as Wii/DS, Wii U/3DS.
 
flyinpiranha said:
A decade ago is recent? Seriously, should have just said Virtual boy. NGC was profitable and had some great games.
Point was it didn't sell like gangbusters like Zero assumes the 3DS will, you all don't need to get hung up on one word.
 
upJTboogie said:
Point was it didn't sell like gangbusters like Zero assumes the 3DS will.

The NGC was also coming off the sluggish N64 and people were reluctant IMO. The 3DS is simply a marketing and pricing nightmare. Now that one has been taken care of, if they play their cards right the former will be taken care of also.

None of us know the future but if I was a betting man and Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Mario Kart, Super Mario 3D Land were coming for a handheld ... I'd bet some money on that handheld.

It's not as easy to dismiss when you look at the long term. The DS didn't too hot at the beginning either.
 
I play games because I love games... I own the PS3, 360, Wii

Ive had a 3DS since launch and I love it - the 3D screen was one of the main reasons I bought it having played it at a preview event, the games I have I enjoy and the features are fun - I'm excited by the two Mario games later this year and many others - only complaints are the battery and the camera resolution

I love my PSP
I love my DsiXL

I have my Vita preordered for several months now

maybe I should just block this thread from my life as it's really annoying me all these doomsayers who probably havent spent more than 5 mins with a 3DS in the first place

As for anyone believing that Nintendo would add something like this to the machine - all previous add-ons for Nintendo have been using expansion ports built into the systems - where exactly do you guys expect this to plug and draw power from?
 
As someone who wasn't hanging around GAF for the DS and Wii launches, were the doom and gloom for those anywhere near the madness that is surrounding the 3DS?
 
TheLastCandle said:
As someone who wasn't hanging around GAF for the DS and Wii launches, were the doom and gloom for those anywhere near the madness that is surrounding th 3DS?

I recall reading that things were pretty bad back then as well. Especially the denial when the Wii took off in sales.
 
krumble said:
As for anyone believing that Nintendo would add something like this to the machine - all previous add-ons for Nintendo have been using expansion ports built into the systems - where exactly do you guys expect this to plug and draw power from?
That's nintendo's genius there: the second analogue stick will be stationary - you plug it into the mains, and it talks to the 3DS via the IR port on the back of the system, wiimote-style.
 
flyinpiranha said:
The NGC was also coming off the sluggish N64 and people were reluctant IMO. The 3DS is simply a marketing and pricing nightmare. Now that one has been taken care of, if they play their cards right the former will be taken care of also.

None of us know the future
but if I was a betting man and Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Mario Kart, Super Mario 3D Land were coming for a handheld ... I'd bet some money on that handheld.

It's not as easy to dismiss when you look at the long term. The DS didn't too hot at the beginning either.

Yeah that's the main point I was making.

Still I am wondering if similar things were said for the Gamcecube..."when this price drop happens, or when this game comes the GCN will sell gangbusters!" I wasn't really reading forums back then.
 
chubigans said:
We'll see. I have my doubts.

I will admit I'm not entirely 100% convinced myself, but judging by NSMB/NSMBW and MKDS/MKWii sales, those seem like franchises that the public really, really likes. Once new iterations come out, folks are going to want to play 'em, and to play 'em they'll have to buy the hardware to play them on.
 
So what's been bothering me is the gaming sites been reporting this as fact. That's pretty shitty reporting if you ask me.

chubigans said:
I don't really think Nintendo did the 3DS any favors with the extreme price cut. Price had some, but not all, to do with the 3DS performance.

With the new $169 price it's now directly lumped in with the other DS revisions. There is very little to differentiate it for consumers. In the end, it's just going to extend the life of the DS, not create a new five year cycle for development like all new handhelds/consoles do.

But hey, what do I know huh?
You honestly believe this?
 
TheLastCandle said:
As someone who wasn't hanging around GAF for the DS and Wii launches, were the doom and gloom for those anywhere near the madness that is surrounding th 3DS?

This is nothing compared to the DS launch. Nothing.
 
The 3D is bunk for gaming on a handheld, the average person will turn it off for the majority of their gaming. Nintendo even knows this as they are trying not to talk up the 3D anymore. It will still sell because of Nintendo's great games eventually coming out but what a total waste and bad decision it was to go 3D.
 
lucius said:
The 3D is bunk for gaming on a handheld, the average person will turn it off for the majority of their gaming. Nintendo even knows this as they are trying not to talk up the 3D anymore. It will still sell because of Nintendo's great games eventually coming out but what a total waste and bad decision it was to go 3D.

Give me data that supports that.
 
Part two is here

Wii U : when hardware goes into development hell

As we know, the Wii U is the result of a long engineering and refining process by its secretive R&D labs. But, according to our source, it seems that the final architecture has been rushed through the door, with undesirable consequences. Nintendo’s low cost policy, which has so far allowed the company to surf the tech wave in a distinctively offbeat way, all the while maintaining incredibly high margins, could be about to backfire.

Tethered so far
So far, the Wii U controller’s main chipset - that manages the device’s essential functions, including streaming and wireless – seems inadequate. This chip, described by our source as maybe a tad too cheap, has been the sources of many headaches in recent weeks. So far,the wireless functions simply do not work – at all . There have been so far three different prototypes, and a fourth iteration is expected by select developers at the end of the month.

Developers on the brink
So far, developers are working with a tethered controller: each one is fitted with a small black box with a tethered connection to the main unit. And even then, it still doesn’t work properly. Many developers are feeling lost, their progress impeded by a distinct lack of visibility, their working days paced by the quasi-daily software updates. In those conditions, many feel unable to properly exploit the system’s most innovative and promising features, those very features they haven’t been able to test properly so far.

What about the schedule ?
Ten months before the tentative release date – developers are still expecting a June 2012 release – the fact that Nintendo engineers are still struggling to make this supposedly final architecture function properly is worrisome at best. Could Nintendo have to make radical last-minute changes, and if so, what would be the cost? This unexpected development runs contrary to Nintendo’s reputation for carefully weighing all tech options long before any announcement. Inside the company, there have been talks of a delayed release, with September as a new tentative date. Being three months off-schedule doesn’t seem such a big issue, when compared to a home console’s life cycle. But this is not 2006 anymore. The industry is undergoing a radical mutation, and there is a growing amount of rumors positioning Microsoft’s next system to be unveiled during the 2012 E3 conference, and a relase in short order. If that was to happen, the Wii U would only enjoy a few months of “optimal run” alongside the Xbox 360, which would essentially moot the much-touted ease with which developers can port 360 code for the Wii U. To succeed in its incredibly audacious endeavour, Nintendo will have to walk a very tight rope.

Link here (in french)

Wii U GamesCon no show is more understandable now
 
Boney said:
You honestly believe this?
I wouldn't be surprised if there's truth to that. If there was already market confusion, this can't help. I imagine a parent could easily go on Amazon, see £20 difference for the 3D one, and assume the difference in price is because of the 3D alone.

EDIT: This is bizarre, all the DSs are more expensive than a few days ago on Amazon right now. Black 3DS is cheaper than a Black DSi!
 
TheLastCandle said:
As someone who wasn't hanging around GAF for the DS and Wii launches, were the doom and gloom for those anywhere near the madness that is surrounding th 3DS?

This post could be straight out of this month.

Foffy said:
Did it expand beyond the meltdowns here, too? Were their similar cries from investors and people to quit making hardware?

People have always been saying that.

The line back then is that the DS didn't stand a goddamn chance against the PSP. After all, remember how the PS2 absolutely DECIMATED the GCN in the market?
 
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