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RUMOR - Capcom vs. Tatsunoko Wii-bound?
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I'd wager about the amount that most FGs get on average: 200-300,000 units, possibly more if the Tatsunoko fans really move out in droves.
That's probably the thing that's in this game's favor; because it's definitely made on a much more "cost-effective" budget than say, SF4, it doesn't need to sell millions to cover the costs and keep the suits happy.
In that light, TC is basically looking to fulfill the same destiny that its Marvel vs. predecessors did before it. :lol
That's probably the thing that's in this game's favor; because it's definitely made on a much more "cost-effective" budget than say, SF4, it doesn't need to sell millions to cover the costs and keep the suits happy.
In that light, TC is basically looking to fulfill the same destiny that its Marvel vs. predecessors did before it. :lol
I just wanted to point out that I did see this game at Evolution in Las Vegas last weekend. It runs in 480p (widescreen) and is definitely NOT Taito Type X2 hardware. The arcade hardware it's running on currently is "secret" which heavily indicates Wii-based hardware, considering the 16:9 format combined with standard resolution graphics.
This also means that we might soon be seeing a piece of affordable new entry-level arcade hardware from Nintendo or another third party.
Based on the available information, Wii-based arcade hardware followed by a Wii console port later down the line is a very strong possibility.
This also means that we might soon be seeing a piece of affordable new entry-level arcade hardware from Nintendo or another third party.
Based on the available information, Wii-based arcade hardware followed by a Wii console port later down the line is a very strong possibility.
Count Dookkake
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I like this rumor.
Link said:
I thought trolling would be like "nintendo suXorz, they should not get this game because they suck and I hate them." I'm just a little perturbed that because a few things were worded in a way that could be seen as overtly negative, I'm now trolling.
I don't care what system the game comes out on, though I'd really like to try it someday...if it's a good enough game with enough praise from the hardcore fighter community, I'd buy a wii for it. (and no, I don't hate nintendo at all...I love my DS. I also get cravings for RE:UC every once in a while and bug my wii-owning friends to play it.)
Dash Kappei
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Dave Long said:
Yes to the former, dunno about the latter.
For those worried about Capcom implementing waggle...
Capcom has a history of providing control options to its Wii games if waggle may not be the best alternative... and even if it is the best form of control, as we saw with RE4 Wii, Capcom still stuck the other two control schemes in the game. RE0 Wii forwent waggle altogether.
Rest easy. Capcom will put classic and perhaps GameCube controller compatibility in CvT if it does come to Wii.
Capcom has a history of providing control options to its Wii games if waggle may not be the best alternative... and even if it is the best form of control, as we saw with RE4 Wii, Capcom still stuck the other two control schemes in the game. RE0 Wii forwent waggle altogether.
Rest easy. Capcom will put classic and perhaps GameCube controller compatibility in CvT if it does come to Wii.
comedy bomb
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fubarduck said:
BUT TEH GRAFIX R 2 GOOD FOR TEH WII
Saint Gregory
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fubarduck said:
As much as I want this game as easy to import as possible (too much as?) it would be really encouraging to see Wii based arcade hardware hit the streets. It means more affordable arcade boards for developers and should give them another outlet to get familiar with getting the most out of Wii hardware.
Hmm, how very interesting.
So, basically, it's either "Wii Hardware" in an Arcade cabinet shell, or it's a Taito X2 configuration explicitly made for the purpose of being able to port to the Wii in a quick and easy fashion. Interesting, indeed.
If it's a good game, the fact that it will finally be on a console that MOST people stand to own (or at least, definitely so in Japan, where the Wii rules the roost), will just give more people incentive to buy the game, especially if the arcade version only served to whet their appetites.
Of course, on the other hand, Capcom COULD feasibly just do it, a la how they did with MvC2 so many moons ago: Arcade port and Arcade-perfect console port released practically on the same day.
If the game is indeed being built on Wii-tech, such a thing could be possible, certainly. Maybe that might even tie into whatever "Holiday 2008" plans that Capcom has for the system.
So, basically, it's either "Wii Hardware" in an Arcade cabinet shell, or it's a Taito X2 configuration explicitly made for the purpose of being able to port to the Wii in a quick and easy fashion. Interesting, indeed.
Askia47 said:
If it's a good game, the fact that it will finally be on a console that MOST people stand to own (or at least, definitely so in Japan, where the Wii rules the roost), will just give more people incentive to buy the game, especially if the arcade version only served to whet their appetites.
Of course, on the other hand, Capcom COULD feasibly just do it, a la how they did with MvC2 so many moons ago: Arcade port and Arcade-perfect console port released practically on the same day.
If the game is indeed being built on Wii-tech, such a thing could be possible, certainly. Maybe that might even tie into whatever "Holiday 2008" plans that Capcom has for the system.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So there is a possibility that they are using 256?
viewtiful_dru
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TreIII said:
I said that I doubt that the game will be exclusive to the Wii.
Not that the game can't come out for the Wii.
viewtiful_dru said:
Point noted.
Even so, especially with the information coming in on how this game is looking to be developed on Wii architecture in an arcade box, it's looking more like this may indeed be a Wii-only party.
Would make sense, seeing how Capcom could feel free to market two different games at the same time (SF4 and TC), and neither would have to so much "compete" with each other, since they would cater to entirely different fanbases across two different console groups.
2DMention said:
The main thing is GCN controller support. They give us that, and that would go on to say that PS2-GC port converters can be used.
Otherwise...there are still those USB ports too...
Peter Venkman
Neo Member
Don't forget Crusin USA and Killer Instinct were "supposedly" being run on N64 even though they both looked way better then anything the N64 could do and that turned out to be true.
Cow Mengde
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So any chance of this coming out in America?
Eteric Rice
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vertopci said:
The Wii isn't getting Street Fighter IV (yet), Soul Calibur 4, Virtua Fighter, or any of that. So why can't the Wii have one good fighting game? Hell, one thats apparently based on it's own hardware ffs.
You won't last here with that kind of shitty attitude.
Colonel Mustard
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Get over it. Buy a Wii. Etc.vertopci said:
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Oh lawdy lawdy NO! It ain't HD. D=vertopci said:
I have a Samsung PN50A550* and Wii games look just fucking dandy on it.
Get over yourself.
Bluemercury
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vertopci said:
Nintendo wii cannot have good games....we know...thxskbye
Colonel Mustard
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And? The game was built with Wii hardware in mind. The game being in 720p isn't going to automatically make it look better.vertopci said:
Look at Bully on the 360.
Eteric Rice
Member
vertopci said:
It would look better on the PC.
Get over yourself.
explain.lupin23rd said:
The PC platform gives you a choice of controllers (which are inferior to sticks) and sticks themselves. Add to that the resolution advantage over weak console versions. Since SF needs HD, it should be on the PC and arcade only so that the franchise can stay untainted with downgraded console ports.
The half of GAF that really don't understand what's happened to the PlayStation or felt left behind in the last few years always get like this with possibilities of games going to a platform not of their choice.
As an example, There's still the fantasy that DQ IX might somehow be cancelled on the DS.
As an example, There's still the fantasy that DQ IX might somehow be cancelled on the DS.
titiklabingapat
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I think they are more worried about it being "based on Wii hardware".Caj814 said:
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Deleted member 284
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Threi said:
No it doesn't. HD enthusiasts have SFIV. All Tats Vs Cap needs is a clean looks with good animation and gameplay.
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Deleted member 284
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Which is idiotic considering that Capcom vs SNK 2 was based on Naomi hardware yet ended up on all platforms last gen.titiklabingapat said:
Eteric Rice
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olubode said:
I think he was being sarcastic.
Caj814 said:
This is also the same Capcom that did such things, like put both MMPU and MHX on the PSP, and made Monster Hunter 3 exclusive to the Wii.
So, no, Capcom isn't as "port-happy" as some people would like to imagine. The much gnashing of teeth that these exclusives generated over the years should be enough of an example to showcase that fact.
olubode said:
Two main differences to think of though:
1) The DC was going to be the clear "loser" last generation. That much being inevitable, Capcom wanted to try and cut their losses and make a presence on the other consoles, so that's why MvC2, CvS and its sequel, were among several games ported to other consoles (the fact that those aforementioned ports are still considered largely "inferior" to the original DC ports not-withstanding.) This would later be finalized with the PS2 ending up being the main (or only, for certain games) host for a number of Capcom's arcade-related efforts, even including when Capcom moved to the System 246/256.
2) If the game is being constructed on the Wii...don't expect it to just be ported to the PS3 easily. The fact that it's constructed on what seems to Wii hardware in an arcade box, and based on furbarduck and other 2channer's reports, the game is able to output 480p at the most. I can't see Capcom doing any thing in the way of going back and doing extra work, to try and meet the demands of making a published release on the PS3 possible (always easier to downscale, than it is to upscale), and I don't see them putting a brand new game of this type as a mere download on the PSN, either.
The most that one can hope for would be a PS2 co-release. But I can't imagine that such a thing would really be in the cards. The PS2 seemingly had enough issues dealing with ports from games developed on GC hardware (see Viewtiful Joe and RE4), and I'd imagine that trying to downscale from Wii hardware would possibly be even worse. I would imagine that if this was meant to be a PS2 release in the future, chances are this would have just used the 246/256 again.
Plus, if Capcom wants to try and do more make a solid presence on the Wii, they really ought to stop the PS2/Wii co-release thing with some of their games, make the games Wii-exclusive, and give Japanese gamers a valid reason to utilize/buy their Wii's. It would only do more to help prep people for what is to come with Monster Hunter 3 any way, as, again, that game is definitely going to be Wii exclusive.
Saint Gregory
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TreIII said:
Damn, pretty good analysis. I think the larger obstacle to porting this to the HD twins is the obvious licensing issues. It can't get released outside of Japan in it's current state and the performance of the HD consoles in Japan would make a port a waste of time and resources. I wouldn't rule out a PSP port down the road though... way down the road.
Saint Gregory said:
I won't deny that the costs are probably the more dominant factor of why this won't come to PS3, even more so than the licensing and "demographic-related" reasons.
After all, as it stands right now, SF4 is the game that Capcom put a LOT of their money and time into, in order to make what it is: a HD, technical marvel running on Taito X2 hardware (I could care less about SF4, but I won't deny it that). The most effective way to try and cover those costs was to basically put it on every viable HD-ready platform (including PC) and running with it.
TC, being made on what seems to be MUCH cheaper hardware, and is a much more "cost-effective" game overall, does not really need to do as such. Not any more than a number of Capcom's PS2 efforts, which have also been able to stay where they are (such as the Gundam vs. series, Sengoku BASARA X and even the upcoming Fate: UC).
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Well thought out analysis Tre. I can only hope that Capcom considers the grey market (ie, the Americans that likely won't be able to easily play TvC if it's on Wii only due to region locked consoles and the nightmare of licenses in NA) and releases a version for the PS3. Either that or some kind of assurance that all license issues are worked out ahead of time (I think it was you or DCharlie that mentioned this possible position to me earlier in #GA). I can't afford a JP Wii at this time but I can't miss this fighting game (as the verdict is still out for me on SFIV)