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gone already apparently. or dodgy link.
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gone already apparently. or dodgy link.
Gemüsepizza;38946597 said:It seems to be from 2010. Did they have that code name back then?
What others? Nintendo's console is ready, and it is too late imo for Sony to change the configuration of its upcoming system...
I got to read the pdf before it was apparently pulled but if true, we are in for something awesome. Especially the stuff about the glasses. I don't have the technical understanding as many of you obviously have but as a gamer and a consumer, I like what I read, this could be huge.
If they stick to it and doesn`t change their plan and you are only interested in gaming their new machine will we a weakling. 4-6x the 360 after 8 years is not good and the overall system cost of $225 and the low wattage shows that there won`t be a good gpu powering that machine.
Im still leaning towards it being a student/intern project that somehow got circulated..MS wants it down because real or not it is a representation of them internally that they would not want to become circulated as "true".
Hahaha! So it WAS real! Digital Foundry owned.
OTOH, the doc is already 2 years old so things have changed a lot. At least we now know MS' future plans.
Also, since the doc is from 2010, the Durango codename didn't probably exist then, we heard the codename for the first time in Nov 2011.
The file path contained a name of an an actual MS employee.
"We were one of the first studios in the world to get access to all of the next-generation consoles. Obviously we can't talk about what they are but we know what next-gen entails. I think people... I'm not going to judge it because it'll get me in trouble, but next-gen is actually not a clear picture right now."
Crytek just said a few days ago that they are "way beyond next-gen consoles already" and implied a negativ outlook for the next gen consoles:
Makes sense now.
Crytek just said a few days ago that they are "way beyond next-gen consoles already" and implied a negativ outlook for the next gen consoles:
Makes sense now.
Is there a clean summary of this?
much bettah picture of the xbox 720 drawing.
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Crytek just said a few days ago that they are "way beyond next-gen consoles already" and implied a negativ outlook for the next gen consoles:
Makes sense now.
Nonetheless, it's at least a little suspiscious, but it didnt contain the "full name of an actual MS employee"
I wouldn't be surprised if they stuck to the 6 x 360 deal. The last time epic got them to pump up the specs, it cost MS over a billion dollars I think.
While I'm sure Epic and the like's input is important, I get the feeling shareholders are going to push Microsoft to make something more profitable from the get go.
In which case, from what we've seen PS4 is gonna be much more powerful than x720. However, will that justify the possible 100 euro higher price? To be honest I would say yes it would justify it. I mean this gen ps3 isn't that much more powerful than x360 and has been the best selling console almost every year since the the revision and it's still more expensive than x360.
Also 2014 is way too late for the smartglasses. It looks like MS will once again come late to the party on that one.
Another tip off: they refer to the "7th generation" of consoles. Only forum dwellers do this.
I asked bgassassin if the 1-1.5 Teraflops GPU rumor that's been going around could have been based on info in this doc, since the 4-6x improvement on games mentioned in this doc matches up perfectly with that rumor. But he thought that 1-1.5 TF GPU rumor was from some newer leak. So it doesn't sound like they've upgraded the spec much since this doc was created. I guess if they are planning to go into cloud computing/gaming, the GPU is less important compared to the CPU and memory ?
If its real, its incredibly disappointing. It seems underpowered like crazy. Im not liking this one bit. This might be the first time ever i make playstation my main gaming console.
I didn't say "I think".![]()
It won't really matter if the PS4 is more powerful. If by the time it releases, MS and Nintendo (if Wii U can receive ports) have a decently sized base, developers will make games for the common denominator of the three.
Though the PS4 versions would probably look best.
I don't recall, but I take that to mean you said "I know".
To be honest I don't think so. If these rumours are true then the next gen will be very weird. You'll have Wii U which is gonna be as strong as current gen (i.e. even worse situation than what Wii had), X720 which is gonna be 4-6 times better and PS4 which seems to be 8-10 times better than the current gen. Those are huge differences, so simply creating a game for the lowest common denominator won't work here.
With regards to my previous comment I wasn't really thinking about the games being developed but whether Sony could afford to release stronger and pricier console. If the rumours and technology trends are to be believed Sony will release in the first half of 2014 with an uber powerful machine or for holidays 2013 with a console marginally more powerful than this x720 rumour. In that case I would say waiting for 2014 would be doable from Sony's point of view.
Also if this x720 rumour is true, then the console's life cycle won't be more than 5 years. Tablets and phones would catch up easily if the cycle would 7-8 years like now.
To be honest I don't think so. If these rumours are true then the next gen will be very weird. You'll have Wii U which is gonna be as strong as current gen (i.e. even worse situation than what Wii had), X720 which is gonna be 4-6 times better and PS4 which seems to be 8-10 times better than the current gen. Those are huge differences, so simply creating a game for the lowest common denominator won't work here.
If all of those assumptions are true, I don't see how Wii-U will be the lowest common denominator. It will be like this generation. For the most part, Wii-U will have a completely different game library and not borrow much from PS4/Durango.
If its real, its incredibly disappointing. It seems underpowered like crazy. Im not liking this one bit. This might be the first time ever i make playstation my main gaming console.
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Wow at all these sites/people thinking this is true cause Microsoft pulled it.
What?Besides the points already mentioned, a PC can do a lot more than a home console will ever be able to do, and can do it openly without being constrained within a mandatory framework.
And anyone complaining about "latency" has never used Genkai or OnLive. And that's streaming a ton further than from your living room.
Jep, i would do the same presumed Sony delivers. I bought the first Xbox and the 360 at launch but i would pass on that weakling. I also despise their "always on" approach.