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[Pelta88]

Timed exclusive so waste of money for the console with the smaller user base. Rather see Microsoft spend money on its studios or funding full exclusives. Timed exclusives are shit and waste of money.

I think the platform split in game sales speak differently. Not to mention the consoles sold in bundles.

Destiny
Grand Theft
Battlefront
MGS
Arkham
Red Dead
Fifa
etc etc etc

Are marketing deals that pushed more consoles and game sales that I think you care to remember.

KOTOR & Harry Potter are going to move units on Mass.

 

[JCK75]

Devs of games that should be on all platforms approaching exclusivity and they reject it..
am I supposed to think that is bad?

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

MS seems to rather spend their budget on buying studio or securing games for gamepass so it makes sense for their business model.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Aspyr's history is nothing but making ports of middling games. Not sure what in their recent history or track record makes anyone think they're the right fit to remake a beloved classic.

And yet 343 still is the developer for Halo.

 

[bushwookie]

When was the last KOTOR released?

Reviving a long abandoned series, decades later, having had multiple console generations in between, that was originally done by a now defunct studio...

Betty Crocker says these are the ingredients required for a complete disaster.

If course I'm hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. Seeing as MS and Sony are both companies that tend to like money. It would seem MS made the wise call here. Apparently the risk didn't bother Sony too much. They'll either knock one outta the park here, or it will be an incredible flop. I can't really see it going anywhere in between.

 

[adamsapple]

And yet 343 still is the developer for Halo.

huh ?

 

[Mister Wolf]

Smart move by Microsoft.

 

[bushwookie]

And yet 343 still is the developer for Halo.

Exactly! So just imagine how bad this can potentially be.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

huh ?

He’s saying 343 are shite

 

[Topher]

Exactly! So just imagine how bad this can potentially be.

Or it could be awesome. Everyone is hoping it is going to be awesome, right?

 

[adamsapple]

He’s saying 343 are shite

Yeah I get that, but it's comparing a studio created to manage one specific franchise vs a studio whose portfolio is iOS ports being given the reigns of a fan favorite.

This has far more potential to be more shite.

Or it could be awesome. Everyone is hoping it is going to be awesome, right?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Or it could be awesome. Everyone is hoping it is going to be awesome, right?

Damn right, I just wish it was on Xbox also

 

[Drizzlehell]

Weird. If the studio is shit then you invest in them to make sure they get all the resources they need to be successful.

I can understand passing on Marvel, but these are the kind of small deals MS shouldve made to fill in the gaps in their first party lineup. They are far cheaper than the billions they spent to get Starfield, and who knows, putting faith in smaller studios like this can pay off in a few years. Bluepoint wasnt always a tech giant. They started off small doing PS3 remasters. You have to develop relationships with these smaller studios.

MS had the right idea with Ninja Theory, Obsidian, and Playground Games. Investing in smaller studios that need first party help to become AAA. It's a shame they ditched that approach and went straight into acquiring publishers.

True. Let's just hope that at least Sony understands this fully and will support Aspyr in the development instead of sitting back doing nothing, and then throwing them under the bus when the game flops, like they did with Hello Games and NMS.

 

[Topher]

Yeah I get that, but it's comparing a studio created to manage one specific franchise vs a studio whose portfolio is iOS ports being given the reigns of a fan favorite.

This has far more potential to be more shite.

Aspyr has done a lot more than iOS ports over the years. They are comparable to BluePoint. And if they get proper funding from Sony to bring in the talent then I don't see reason to make any assumptions at all.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Xbox, are you ok? You seem to have fallen off a wagon and landed in the ruts face down this week here on Neogaf.

 

[STARSBarry]

If the developer is who we think they are then honestly Microsoft did a good job on the pass.
They looked at the studio behind it not the brand name.

In fairness I do want this to be good, I really do but at this point I can only be pleasantly suprised.

 

[ManaByte]

I don't know why Microsoft would pass on it just because Aspyr is developing it

Because Aspyr literally has never made a game in their entire existence. They just port old PC games to Mac and consoles.

 

[adamsapple]

Aspyr has done a lot more than iOS ports over the years. They are comparable to BluePoint. And if they get proper funding from Sony to bring in the talent then I don't see reason to make any assumptions at all.

I respectfully disagree. Blue Point's portfolio even long before Sony acquisition a massive mountain top over Aspyr.

Because Aspyr literally has never made a game in their entire existence. They just port old PC games to Mac and consoles.

and iOS, they're porting The Force Unleashed to Switch also.

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Are we sure this KoTor thing is even a full remake or an enhanced remaster ? This studio has not made any full games like Mana said above.

 

[Pantz]

not hearing good things about remake from youtube commentators

Man HATING SJW Hired To Re-Write Knights Of The Old Republic Admits She Doesn't Even Like The Game​

Definitely iffy

 

[Swift_Star]

So, not another moneyhat. Good to know all of this is being debunked.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Lol Microsoft hasn't done anything good in a long time

Called it. Bye bye.

 

[Javthusiast]

Can't be worse than some of Microsofts own output.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

If the developer is who we think they are then honestly Microsoft did a good job on the pass.
They looked at the studio behind it not the brand name.

In fairness I do want this to be good, I really do but at this point I can only be pleasantly suprised.

Couldn’t they of used their own studio for this kind of deal for the IP? The Initiative for example, could of been a cool first project for them?

 

[tommib]

This topic, without any substantial confirmation, will be 11 pages minimum. Count on it.

Yes we already got 3 posts from you in 5 minutes.

 

[Topher]

I respectfully disagree. Blue Point's portfolio even long before Sony acquisition a massive mountain top over Aspyr.

What? How?

Bluepoint Games - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Swift_Star]

Considering the studio making it, won't be surprised if they were skeptical.

So you already decided the game will be bad?

 

[anthony2690]

I've never even heard off aspyr till this kotor remake, what have they made prior?

 

[adamsapple]

What? How?

Bluepoint Games - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In terms of the quality of their output, not the sheer number.

BP also developer the 360 version of Titanfall and the PS4 remake of Shadow of the Colossus before being acquired.

So you already decided the game will be bad?

No, but the studio making it doesn't inspire much confidence.

I've never even heard off aspyr till this kotor remake, what have they made prior?

Lots of PC, Mac and iOS ports of existing games:

List of games ported by Aspyr - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ManaByte]

I've never even heard off aspyr till this kotor remake, what have they made prior?

Nothing. They just port old PC games to Mac and consoles.

They did the console ports of the Jedi Knight games, Republic Commando, Star Wars Racer, etc. Most recently the Switch port of Force Unleashed.

 

[Topher]

In terms of the quality of their output, not the sheer number.

BP also developer the 360 version of Titanfall and the PS4 remake of Shadow of the Colossus before being acquired.

Tell me how they differ in "quality of their output"?

 

[Kacho]

I've never even heard off aspyr till this kotor remake, what have they made prior?

Nothing of note. Just ports.

 

[reksveks]

Weird. If the studio is shit then you invest in them to make sure they get all the resources they need to be successful.

I can understand passing on Marvel, but these are the kind of small deals MS shouldve made to fill in the gaps in their first party lineup. They are far cheaper than the billions they spent to get Starfield, and who knows, putting faith in smaller studios like this can pay off in a few years. Bluepoint wasnt always a tech giant. They started off small doing PS3 remasters. You have to develop relationships with these smaller studios.

MS had the right idea with Ninja Theory, Obsidian, and Playground Games. Investing in smaller studios that need first party help to become AAA. It's a shame they ditched that approach and went straight into acquiring publishers.

Aspyr is a third party studio, owned by Embracer. I don't know how much they (MS/Sony) would want to commit especially as its also coming on PC.

Aspyr has done a lot more than iOS ports over the years. They are comparable to BluePoint. And if they get proper funding from Sony to bring in the talent then I don't see reason to make any assumptions at all.

I think the Embracer/Saber Interactive thingy gets a bit weird in terms of Sony providing proper funding a chunk of the development. It would be a bit weird but any weirder than Crystal Dynamics and MS, probably not in retrospect.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Aspyr has done a lot more than iOS ports over the years. They are comparable to BluePoint. And if they get proper funding from Sony to bring in the talent then I don't see reason to make any assumptions at all.

And their parent company is Saber Interactive.

Definitely iffy

She is no longer with them and has not been for some time. She was a mere blip.

 

[Swift_Star]

Yes. In fact, it was due to one man's moronic obsession with moneyhatting that cost every single PS5 owner Starfield.

Do you really think MS bought Bethesda BECAUSE of moneyhatting and not because they need content on Gamepass? Do you really think business are this petty and silly? Specially a trillion dollar company? Do you not see how this sounds?

 

[Kacho]

Damn right, I just wish it was on Xbox also

It will be. It’s a timed exclusive.

I wouldn’t get my hopes up on it being good but we’ll see.

 

[lh032]

Yes. In fact, it was due to one man's moronic obsession with moneyhatting that cost every single PS5 owner Starfield.

im pretty sure Zenimax is going to sell anyway lol, just caught Sony off guard.

 

[adamsapple]

Tell me how they differ in "quality of their output"?

Sure.

Last 3 released games on Asypr's profile, and I'll pick the ones with the highest meta score for multi plat releases.

Star Wars: Republic Commando

Enter the dark military side of the Star Wars universe as a squad leader of a Republic Special Operations unit. You are a Republic Commando. You must infiltrate deep behind enemy lines and lead your elite team on precision operations – lurking in the shadows, striking at will...Explore the...

www.metacritic.com

Meta: 58
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Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse

Guaranteed to turn some heads, this third-person action game is an original IP by Bungie Studio veterans that uses an updated Halo engine to deliver a stirring tale of one man's hunger for love, justice...and brains. In this game, players take on the role of the rebel himself ? Stubbs, a...

www.metacritic.com

Meta 68
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Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

As a new student of Luke Skywalker's Jedi Academy, follow an ancient tradition and learn the powers - and dangers - of the Force. The Force is a powerful ally; use it wisely. Immerse yourself in the classic Star Wars universe as you take on the role of a student eager to learn the ways of the...

www.metacritic.com

Meta 68



Last 3 conversions by Blue Point (not counting developed games)

Gravity Rush Remastered

Gain a new perspective as Kat, a strong-willed girl trying to protect her future in a world that's crumbling to pieces. With incredible gravity-altering abilities, Kat is the only one who can salvage the floating city of Hekseville – if only she could remember who she is…

www.metacritic.com

Meta 80
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Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection

From the storytellers at Naughty Dog, comes the epic that altered adventure storytelling, rebuilt by Bluepoint Games with the power of the PS4 system. Follow the harrowing journey of Nathan Drake across the globe, from humble beginnings to incredible discoveries. Meet a unique cast of characters...

www.metacritic.com

Meta 86
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https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/titanfall

Meta 83

 

[DeepEnigma]

A wild meta list appears.

 

[StormCell]

First Marvel and now this...

If I had to think about my options (and costs), the consideration seems to be potentially mediocre games versus few to no games.

Depending on price tag, I feel like having recognizable IPs on the platform is going to push sales. After all, 360 had its share of mediocre platform exclusives that my 360-loving friends still played even if the games weren't great.

Not sure I understand this new approach, when Xbox + 360 had a winning formula.

 

[kyliethicc]

MS seems to rather spend their budget on buying studio or securing games for gamepass so it makes sense for their business model.

The game could have been secured for game pass… that’s what they declined to do lol.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Completely agree. Absolutely tone-deaf move (though Microsft tends to make them) especially considering how vocal was the Xbox community regarding the game (people have been asking for the remake for years).

I do wonder why Microsoft passes on so many deals and it seems they avoid anything third person related too.

I never thought about them passing on so many third person games. They definitely lean towards first person over third person by far. Also, they don't see to go after the single player games. The only major one that I know of is Plague Tale Requiem which is multi-plat but day one Game Pass. Other than that, it's all this other shit.

Because Aspyr literally has never made a game in their entire existence. They just port old PC games to Mac and consoles.

True but doesn't matter. The game has it's legacy on the original Xbox. If you're Microsoft, you do not pass on this game. Hell, they could have easily just said, we'll get the marketing for the game to ensure it releases on Xbox day one but could have avoided any exclusivity since Microsoft doesn't seem to go after exclusivity unless the game is an Indie or AA title. Also, Microsoft could have an internal studio oversee/help with development. I know Sony has XDev. Does Microsoft have an equivalent? Honestly, I don't even know if they do or not.

Either way, passing on this game is a miss in my eyes and with Sony overseeing the game, I do believe that it will be a great game as Sony is publishing the title so yeah, they will definitely be keeping a close eye on the game. Imagine it releases at a 90 or so MC/OC. They would be sticking it to Microsoft and Xbox fans. To me, this was a no-brainer for Microsoft and they whiffed. The only way this isn't a whiff is if the game turns out to be bad which in all honesty, I don't see happening.

 

[adamsapple]

A wild meta list appears.

Shit man I'm just responding to Topher asking me the difference in quality output.

The game could have been secured for game pass… that’s what they declined to do lol.

Ah they tried to pull off a Fury DLC, get MS to sign off on game pass so they'd have to fund development.

Sneaky.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The game could have been secured for game pass… that’s what they declined to do lol.

And if it were, some of those first page comments would be a 180. In fact, this would be considered ... a MEGATON.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

He’s saying 343 are shite

He's saying 343 are shite common sense. Fixed it for you.

 

[Hugare]

Timed exclusive, so who cares? Will be on Gamepass one year after launch, I bet

People comparing it to FF VII R "timed exclusive" deal are oblivious.

This aint Square, a japanese company known for their decades long relationship with Sony

 

[Beechos]

Ms cant even get their own games out the door and people want them to take on more projects like marvel and this.

 

[Hendrick's]

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

The game could have been secured for game pass… that’s what they declined to do lol.

I'm not behind the scenes but I assume they'd have to pay AAA price for an unknown quantity with this game/studio, probably made more sense for them to acquire tunic lol. All speculation of course. Seems like the studio needed part of the development to be paid for.

 

[Papacheeks]

Definitely iffy

Isn't she off the project now?

 

[kyliethicc]

And if it were, some of those first page comments would be a 180. In fact, this would be considered ... a MEGATON.

Reminds me of when VRR was a game changer lol

I'm not behind the scenes but I assume they'd have to pay AAA price for an unknown quantity with this game/studio, probably made more sense for them to acquire tunic lol. All speculation of course. Seems like the studio needed part of the development to be paid for.

They just spent like 80,000,000,000 buying publishers in the last 2 years. They’re not low on cash.