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[Shin]

In a new video shared by Skullzi TV on YouTube, it's been revealed that a recent patent from Microsoft suggests that the next-gen Xbox console will feature an internal physics engine.
This onboard module should act a physics engine for next-generation titles, which should open up a lot of very interesting possibilities.

Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190065641A1/en?oq=15870585

Credit: WCCFTech

 

[//DEVIL//]

Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190065641A1/en?oq=15870585

Credit: WCCFTech

Secret souce

 

[Chozofication_]

If true that + Ryzen would mean probably mean the biggest jump in physics ever.

 

[Shmunter]

Physics have been absent almost for this entire gen. Depressingly so.

Time to get proper world simulation ala Farcry2 ++

 

[MDSLKTR]

Nvidia physx lives on! I hope its true, physics were such a disappointment this gen.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Sweet

 

[TeamGhobad]

secret sauce special

 

[Shin]

If true that + Ryzen would mean probably mean the biggest jump in physics ever.

Ryzen 3000 / Zen 2, you're not going to use a 12nm CPU only to shrink it down to 7nm (which Navi and the APU will be), that's a waste of money.

 

[Shifty]

Baking game-specific functionality into the hardware like that seems like an interesting idea. It actually takes the idea of a console as a dedicated gaming machine to the next level, rather than being a black box computer made of off-the-shelf parts.

 

[onQ123]

Cool

 

[Journey]

Wasn't there a rumor back in the day that Xbox 360 would have Ageia PhysX tech? Rumors of a GPU + PPU.

Deja vu.

 

[CeeJay]

This patent seems to be specifically around collision detection. Sounds like the local processing part of the hybrid streaming tech that MS have previously spoken about.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Double edged sword. Could offload a lot of computation off the CPU. But would all depend on whether developers use it.

Microsoft would have to make it easy to use/integrate.

 

[GoldenEye98]

This patent seems to be specifically around collision detection. Sounds like the local processing part of the hybrid streaming tech that MS have previously spoken about.

Considering how terrible collision detection is in games this is welcomed.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

won't make much a difference. probably some bullshit marketing thing but in real world performance it'll do nothing.

pretty much the same as "gaming in the cloud" we got with the XB1 back in 2013. yeah it is useful in some cases but it's not gonna make the console a lot more powerful. if they really want good physics then pony up the $ for a better CPU.

 

[ZywyPL]

Physics have been absent almost for this entire gen.

The entire Jaguar CPU has the same processing power as a single-core intel Celeron, if not less, so what to expect?


I'm sceptical about the rumor, the XB2/PS5 will already have ~4x more powerful CPUs, even more if the rumors about 16 threads will indeed be true, so the devs will have sh**loads of processing power to play with for physics, AI, etc. So putting additional chip just for the physics seems like a waste of space and unnecessary cost boost, especially that it will most likely be unused by 3rd party games if the PS5 won't also have it. Think of NV RTX - sure the tech is there, but sits there unused most of the time.. It's like ESRAM all over again, where they will waste a lot of die space, instead of simply putting more powerful GPU, which also can do physics/simulations when needed.

 

[Chozofication_]

Ryzen 3000 / Zen 2, you're not going to use a 12nm CPU only to shrink it down to 7nm (which Navi and the APU will be), that's a waste of money.

Why did you think I meant zen+? Yes it will be zen 2

 

[Chozofication_]

The entire Jaguar CPU has the same processing power as a single-core intel Celeron, if not less, so what to expect?

What? No it doesn't it's like a low clocked core2quad, depending on which console we're talking about

 

[Von Hugh]

For a gaming console this makes sense, actually. For PCs it was no surprise that PhysX would not really catch on due being limited mostly to very gaming-specific use cases. And only a few games supported it because it was only an option.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

Being that MS own Havok, a built in hardware solution seems like a great idea to offload CPU loads. Most games use Havok anyways. If they can design an easy API solution, this is a big win.

 

[GermanZepp]

If that means Bollywood Physics..

Bring it.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

Whatever happens I will be disappointed if games are not pushed forward next generation with things like AI and physics. Pretty much all the games this gen have just been sequels / copies of the exact same games from 12+ years ago. Boring.

 

[Shin]

Being that MS own Havok,

Good reminder, I completely had forgotten they bought Havoc a while back.

 

[plushyp]

If that means Bollywood Physics..

Bring it.

That's actually Tollywood (Tamil film from South India) lol

 

[Insane Metal]

Nah. There's a lot to make the console expensive already.

 

[ethomaz]

Well they bought Havok after all... it should be used.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

That's actually Tollywood (Tamil film from South India) lol

Incorrect Tollywood refers to Telugu Language Cinema, this is Kollywood which is Tamil movie industry.

 

[baphomet]

Incorrect Tollywood refers to Telugu Language Cinema, this is Kollywood which is Tamil movie industry.

Nice necrobump to this stupid ass thread.

 

[Woody337]

Incorrect Tollywood refers to Telugu Language Cinema, this is Kollywood which is Tamil movie industry.

Why did you do this?

 

[Mr Moose]

Incorrect Tollywood refers to Telugu Language Cinema, this is Kollywood which is Tamil movie industry.

Stop looking at "Similar threads", they might be old as fuck.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Edit: Ugh fcking necrobump. God that's annoying

 

[baphomet]

Stop looking at "Similar threads", they might be old as fuck.

He's currently "searching", so he's actively looking for them.

 

[March Climber]

Why did you do this?

He traveled the world and researched history over 2 years for that rebuttal.

 

[rickybooby87]

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Incorrect Tollywood refers to Telugu Language Cinema, this is Kollywood which is Tamil movie industry.

I'm confused. Did you lose access to the internet for four years? Were you living in a cave? Real-life Castaway situation???

 

[JackMcGunns]

We have an influx of Necromancers joining the boards.

 

[chilichote]

^^

 

[Imtjnotu]

Who the fuck from era is coming here and bumping all this old shit

 

[VolticArchangel]

I swear to god, necrobumpers should be perm'd.

EviLore , please do something about this recent madness. Maybe auto-lock threads past a certain timeframe from creation or a certain timeframe from being inactive?

 

[JackMcGunns]

I swear to god, necrobumpers should be perm'd.

EviLore , please do something about this recent madness. Maybe auto-lock threads past a certain timeframe from creation or a certain timeframe from being inactive?

I thought it was funny. Dude, it's not that serious lol

 

[Chronos24]

Should talk to Nintendo about how to handle physics. TotK physics with the power the switch had?!?! Not calling developers lazy or anything but man outside of a few games collision detection alone was so bad this gen just feels like effort toward that was so low.

 

[havoc00]

We already won next gen Xbros

 

[THE DUCK]

So where us my physics engine? I want my physics engine. This is unacceptable.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I member. I member everything.



Edit: Goddamn it, I thought this was weird news considering modern tech lol

 

[Pimpbaa]

Ahh man 2019 again, that means I'll have to start hoarding toilet paper soon.

 

[Beechos]

Doesnt really matter. There no way devs will spend the extra resources for improved physics just for xbox I guess unless it's 1st party or an exclusive.

 

[Three]

Doesnt really matter. There no way devs will spend the extra resources for improved physics just for xbox I guess unless it's 1st party or an exclusive.

This is a 2019 thread/rumour about the Xbox Series. It didn't happen.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

I member. I member everything.



Edit: Goddamn it, I thought this was weird news considering modern tech lol

I have one of these but the part that screws into the PC is slightly bent.

 

[onQ123]

Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190065641A1/en?oq=15870585

Credit: WCCFTech

I was randomly thinking about how there was once physics hardware for PC then it all got pushed off to the GPU.

This could be cool if true give us specialized accelerators & leave the GPU for graphics.

Edit: damnit old thread bump lol

 

[Hudo]

They've trapped Isaac Newton's spirit on a chip!!!