Muchi Muchi Pink
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Heavy said:
You could say the same about a 2013 release.
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Rumor: Xbox successor codename is "Ten". Expected release Holiday 2012.
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You could say the same about a 2013 release.
BruiserBear
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This is what I've been wondering ever since 343 Studios declined to talk about the engine Halo 4 runs on when asked about it at E3.Deadly Cyclone said:
specialguy
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bgassassin said:
And then theres this, which seems slightly more credible than many of these other rumors:
http://www.develop-online.net/news/38917/Sources-point-to-2013-launch-for-Xbox-Next
And then there's this
http://gamingbolt.com/cliffyb-next-gen-consoles-will-have-to-pass-the-mom-test
Cliffy B aka Epic is in a better position to know next gen timelines than pretty much anybody.
Fact is some people continue to love to push this next box in 2012 rumor (perhaps because they hope it wont out power Wii U too badly?) but it's not happening, period.
The really funny thing is how almost every post continues to claim Halo 4 is being redone for next box instead of 360 despite there is no chance of that happening. Which will be proven by 360 footage of Halo 4 which should be coming fairly soon (even then I'm sure that faction wont entirely give up).
Phoenician_Viking
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We have been hearing a lot of rumors about the Nextbox. I am starting to think that they will release in 2012. Sony better not be late to the party. Strong competition is good for us consumers.
The Last Guardian is going to the PS4 
bgassassin
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specialguy said:
First link is a rumor just like the others. 2014 most likely deals with UE4.
Saint10118
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I'm sure this will sound like complete bullshit but I thought I'd go ahead and share it nonetheless. I'm a postdoc at the University of Washington and was in the mouse facility and struck up a chat with a girl who was working in the same room. Things took a turn for the nerd and we started talking about videogames when she remarked that the friend of her boyfriend (who is a Microsoft employee) was testing out the new Xbox. I assumed she was talking about the beta for the new dashboard and told her as much. She was clearly insulted by the implication that she didn't know what she was talking about and replied "No. hardware and before you ask it ain't Kinect." I tried pressing her but other than reiterating that it was a new console she didn't know anything more saying she really only cares about RPGs.
butter_stick
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Was she cute?Saint10118 said:
Saint10118
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Typical Seattleite - pale w/barista glassesbutter_stick said:
butter_stick
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Be still my heart.Saint10118 said:
walking fiend
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10 year life-cycle merely means 360 will be around for 10 years, not that the next box won't come before that...
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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The Xbox Ten
The Ten Box
The Tin Box
I don't have high hopes for this thing...
The Ten Box
The Tin Box
I don't have high hopes for this thing...
StreetsAhead
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SaintMadeOfPlaster said:
Two Wiis duct-taped together, confirmed.
Saint10118
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Billychu said:
It kind of feels that way when the government owns all liquor stores ;b
Perhaps I should have said stock catalogue hipster glasses.
bgassassin
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Saint10118 said:
I'd say at worst it's as credible as any other rumor we've heard. Doesn't seem like she would have a reason to lie to you.
opticalmace
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LOLDonMigs85 said:
Proelite
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DonMigs85 said:
Try a GTX 590 level GPU in terms of overall flops. That's probably the most they can do in 2013.
EDIT: Nvidia flops are different than AMD flops, so I am not sure. The GPU in the Loop will probably have ~3 billion transistors like the 590.
AMD 7850-7870 would be a better comparison.
specialguy
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agrajag said:
Err...
Wii vs X360?
OniShiro said:
WiiU is going to be reasonably spec'd to handily outperform ps360 and yet have an aggressive price point. If the new Microsoft console is released at the same time, it will not be a drastic difference, even if they go with the most expensive GPU available at the time. The difference will be equivalent of turning down the settings in a PC game. Not to mention that it would be a lot more expensive than WiiU if that is the case.
specialguy said:
Nice logic there. Wii was a souped-up Gamecube. WiiU is a modern console with modern architecture. It might be slightly less powerful, but it won't make ports between it and the new MS console impossible like it was with the Wii and 360.
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specialguy said:
And just how exactly do you know this? Do you work for MS? have they specifically told you this? Did you talk to Miss Cleo?
It isn't at all possible that they could even consider pushing Halo 4 back so that it would launch along side their next system? And in regards to your "proven by 360 footage" Comment... seriously? That is what you are basing this on? Guess what... MS showed Kameo on the Original Xbox before it was pushed back to the 360. Not only is that not a 100% confirmation, THIS SO CALLED FOOTAGE DOESN'T EVEN EXIST YET!
If I was MS, I would keep telling people its a 360 exclusive as long as possible so people hold on to their 360s or maybe purchase new ones, and then spring the news a few months before its release that it is being pushed back as a launch title for the next system which would release 6 - 9 months later. But hey.. that is just me.
bgassassin
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Proelite said:
I saw someone make an interesting comment on another board. The reason Loop has the ARM cores as described could be to play downloadable Kinect games. I could see that in addition to the set-top box functions for XboxTV. That made more sense to me than anything I thought of.
I just don't see a 2012 launch. The American economy still hasn't recovered and if you aren't apple no ones going to be a device worth more than 300$ until it does recover, as well the rest of the world is on the verge of financial meltdown so those markets won't have money for awhile either.
I fully expect some tech demos and an announcement of the new console sometime next year but I really can't seem them rushing (and it will be a rush)a successor to the 360 out the door for next fall , I'd like to think they learned the hard way last time that a rushed system launch does a company no favors.
It's not that I don't think they can make a capable console for next year , it's moreso that anything released in 2012 will likely be held back by what's available right now. The GPU would be trapped at what a gtx 580 or a radeon HD 6990 can do. This level of power isn't anything to scoff at but if they instead brought the next xbox out in say september of 2012, they could build a custom GPU based on the line of PC parts coming after the 2 I mentioned, an ati 7XXX series or nvidia 6xx series. Those chipsets won't just be slightly modded parts like current gen cards are either, I suspect they'll be brand new chipsets with much more power in them. As well, with the current HDD crisis due to thai flooding , I think the next set of consoles may well shift to a solid state drive solution, a solution such as that would be far too expensive to implement this year or next but in 2013 you may see a 60-100 GB drive sell in mass quantities for barely more than an equivalent HDD does.
Perhaps I'll eat crow in the end if I'm wrong here but I really do think that the newest rumours are based on perhaps a pre-alpha build of the hardware up and running right now. They'd need to have some basic semblance of hardware up and running as a proof of concept but I just don't see it moving beyond that step for 12 months, followed by 9 months of beta devkits and 2 months of final devkits to prep launch titles. Remember, games for this gen of consoles take 18-24 months and 25 million $ , next gen it's only logical that games will take 24-36 months and 40 million $ budgets. As well, I wouldn't be suprised to see another 10 dollar increase per game. With more DLC to boot. Fun times ahead.
I fully expect some tech demos and an announcement of the new console sometime next year but I really can't seem them rushing (and it will be a rush)a successor to the 360 out the door for next fall , I'd like to think they learned the hard way last time that a rushed system launch does a company no favors.
It's not that I don't think they can make a capable console for next year , it's moreso that anything released in 2012 will likely be held back by what's available right now. The GPU would be trapped at what a gtx 580 or a radeon HD 6990 can do. This level of power isn't anything to scoff at but if they instead brought the next xbox out in say september of 2012, they could build a custom GPU based on the line of PC parts coming after the 2 I mentioned, an ati 7XXX series or nvidia 6xx series. Those chipsets won't just be slightly modded parts like current gen cards are either, I suspect they'll be brand new chipsets with much more power in them. As well, with the current HDD crisis due to thai flooding , I think the next set of consoles may well shift to a solid state drive solution, a solution such as that would be far too expensive to implement this year or next but in 2013 you may see a 60-100 GB drive sell in mass quantities for barely more than an equivalent HDD does.
Perhaps I'll eat crow in the end if I'm wrong here but I really do think that the newest rumours are based on perhaps a pre-alpha build of the hardware up and running right now. They'd need to have some basic semblance of hardware up and running as a proof of concept but I just don't see it moving beyond that step for 12 months, followed by 9 months of beta devkits and 2 months of final devkits to prep launch titles. Remember, games for this gen of consoles take 18-24 months and 25 million $ , next gen it's only logical that games will take 24-36 months and 40 million $ budgets. As well, I wouldn't be suprised to see another 10 dollar increase per game. With more DLC to boot.
Fun times ahead.DonMigs85 said:
This is (kinda) true, but just about every single tid bit of news or rumors that come up seem to imply something significantly more powerful than the current gen, just not a full generational leap. The whole "barely more powerful than 360" thing just needs to die until we have more concrete info.
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