[Rumour]Microsoft is apparently trying to finalize deals with 3 Studios before E3.

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It literally took 3 gens for Sony to get this big recognition from the public. In 2013, Sony had a stellar year with TLoU, God of War Ascension, GT6, Puppeteer, Beyond Two Souls, Killzone Shadow Fall, Rain.

Since 2015, Sony WWS is on a roll with Goty and Gotys contenders every single year. From Bloodborne (2015) to Uncharted 4 (2016), then Horizon (2017). GoW and Spider made 2018. This year TLoU 2 will probably be the bigger one from them. 2020 and beyond are also in the pocket with their next games. This isn't an uninspired formula, this is just something MS dreams to achieve with all their acquisitions. Maybe one of them will bring a game as good as a Sony Worldwide Studio production.

This reputation grows with results not with empty promises. That's what Xbox fans don't understand. No uninspired formulas would take them this far and bad games are just bad games in the end. That's why MS suffered so much.
 

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It literally took 3 gens for Sony to get this big recognition from the public. In 2013, Sony had a stellar year with TLoU, God of War Ascension, GT6, Puppeteer, Beyond Two Souls, Killzone Shadow Fall, Rain.

Since 2015, Sony WWS is on a roll with Goty and Gotys contenders every single year. From Bloodborne (2015) to Uncharted 4 (2016), then Horizon (2017). GoW and Spider made 2018. This year TLoU 2 will probably be the bigger one from them. 2020 and beyond are also in the pocket with their next games. This isn't an uninspired formula, this is just something MS dreams to achieve with all their acquisitions. Maybe one of them will bring a game as good as a Sony Worldwide Studio production.

This reputation grows with results not with empty promises. That's what Xbox fans don't understand. No uninspired formulas would take them this far and bad games are just bad games in the end. That's why MS suffered so much.
>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.
 
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>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.
And that's all we need in the end.

That's what MS so desperately needs. Quality games.
 

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>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.


 
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>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.
And you need to accept that those games are first party. Deal with it.
 

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>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.
After Days Gone it’ll probably be either Dreams or Concrete Genie actually...
 
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No it's not, it's always tetered around a 2:1 to 2.2:1 ratio, that hasn't changed regardless of Sony or Microsoft's output.
this is as much BS as percentages. without context it is useless data.

But we know after each year the gap only grew and now it is more than 50 million units. they launched at the same time. this is why MS started to hide the numbers and you know it.
 

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Sony and Microsoft's first party sales figures aren't even that different, the reason the PS4 is winning isn't because Microsoft's first party "sucks" but that Microsoft made a mistake with high launch prices, tiered console releases launching the consoles in some territories months to a year late, and getting shafted on third party games outside 4 countries because of those very mistakes. Which Gave Sony a higher chance for third party exclusives after 2015.

It has very little to do with first party, and their first parties aren't that far sales wise anyway. Having journalists drool over many game this gen that didn't even sell 1 million or 2 million units, while some of Microsoft's "flops" sold at least 1 million. You can argue subjectivity, but you can't argue subjectivity in a market discussion. Saying Ms lost because of journalists drooling first party doesn't work unless they added significantly to Ww sales and in many cases that just didn't happen. Though there are exceptions like Horizon here and there.

It's all about that third party, which Sony in many countries got a year head start on along with tp exclusive content that kept building until today. We are talking 7:1 in some countries for third party ratios compared to Xbox One, and less shelf space.

If Microsoft releases everywhere next gen, advertises correctly, and prices accordingly, along with reaching out to developers, which they are doing now, It won't be as lopsided. But the Xbox One was doomed by June 2014, took way too long to address problems that should of been fixed at launch to be honest, but at latest Jan or Feb 2014.
 
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What a joke, money doesn't solve all issues and if they can't make a partnership with Platinum work and constantly have issues with game development , then it is a corporate culture problem.
There hasn't been 1 decent game produced by Xbox this gen outside Cuphead, Ori and Forza. There is no track record and they don't have Epic and Bungie to lean on anymore. Just a bunch of discount studios. I'll beieve them when I see something noteworthy.
Come on... you are being purposefully ignorant.
 

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this is as much BS as percentages. without context it is useless data.

But we know after each year the gap only grew and now it is more than 50 million units. they launched at the same time. this is why MS started to hide the numbers and you know it.
The context was in my post, they've retained a 2:1 to 2.2:1 sales ratio throughout the course of the 5 1/2 years of this generation. Even when Sony had pretty weak offerings for games in the beginning of the generation and Microsoft arguably had better ones nothing shifted, when Sony started getting an onslaught of games in 2017 nothing shifted, it was business as usual on both sides and still is.

The Xbox One is where it is because of what happened in 2013, the price, the policies, the weaker hardware, as the poster above me said the late regional rollouts etc. That's entirely responsible for where things are and have been, it's called a stigma and it's kept them in a perpetual state of sales consistency, Sony has been rather consistent as well. They've both towed the line in their respective sales margins relatively consistently across the course of the generation.

Games haven't really dictated anything, the argument that they have is a total delusion. Like 98% of releases and games purchased are multiplatform titles, exclusives are great and all but they're hardly a power play anymore for these systems in terms of unit volumes.
 
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Sony's game template has become extremely uninspired and same'ish, and while they sell great it's nonetheless uninspired. Sony has excellent quality games but the formula is and has been wearing thin. Microsoft may be outputting what some consider mediocre games but their template is all over the map and much more like gaming from the past in terms of risk taking. The best way I can describe some of their games are the old and now absent AA market. You know the Midway's, Acclaim's, Crave Entertainment's, Iguana Entertainment's etc, that's the vibe I derive from Microsoft's stable.
Template? There is no cookie cutter or asset flipping device at any Sony studio.
They do put out a majority of 3rd person games but they are far from 'uninspired' .

A post-post apocalypse world where dinosaur like beasts rule and bows are the main weapons
A God that seeked revenge and is trying to start anew in a different land.
An Indiana Jones style adventurer and his quest for fortune and glory.
Spider-man, is self explanatory
Ratchet and Clank, a platformer
LBP, a 2.5D platformer with level creator
Bloodborne
Gran Turismo, the original driving sim.
Dreams, a creator tool with a game...
A cinematic zombie survival game - TLOU

I could be disingenuous too and say something like ' the most imaginative thing xbox 1st party did was put a chainsaw on a rifle'.
 

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Microsoft needs quality, Sony needs variety, nothing is perfect.
I keep seeing this post that Sony needs variety but when I genuinely ask what is the variety in other platforms or to point out what is the lack of variety on Sony's side then no one responds. IMO all the three consoles lack variety in one way or other as all of them are sticking to their tried and tested formulas.

So I ask again, what variety do you think that Sony is lacking and do you think that MS and Nintendo are covering all varieties that gamers look for. I mean name genres, games etc. if you can.
 
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Sounds plausible, I was wondering when would MS snag IO.

I love IO so I hope MS will not butcher them if true. But I thought Relic was Segas?
 

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who doesn't? doesn't seem like Sony does anymore. regardless of them wanting to buy studios or not. a very lage number of studios will probably put out games for every console not named a playstation.
microsoft already has more studios than Sony. its 13 to 12 right now. and after this the difference would be huge. objectively if these studios put out good games we can't say that Sony is the best at SP games. because they wouldn't be.

literally every sony game looks like naughty dog game.uncharted the axe man and his son. uncharted, biker zombie gank. uncharted, guy and girl with zombies. uncharted. ancient japan.

congrats sony. you find your own ubisoft template.


this video is the best video ever. its my soul animal.
Sony has been putting out 3rd person movie games this gen. Not much variety true, ps4 seems their worst gen so far regarding games.

Because MS is potentially gonna buy em’.
Salty sony fans all over the map in a MS thread. Thats why.
 
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>"Sony WWS"
>Proceeds to list 6 games, one which is unreleased and two of which are third party, and all of which share the same third person uninspired formulaic "Sony" ethos people are talking about



What is Sony's next game? Third person narrative driven, what is their game after that? Third person narrative driven, and after that? Third person narrative driven... Quality games sure, but y'all need to accept when people call a spade; a spade. If Ford started only manufacturing different varieties of the Mustang they would still be an auto-manufacture, but at the end of the day they're only making Mustang's.
I don't know why Xbox fanboys complain about third person narrative driven games.

At the same time, there' Red Dead Redemption 2, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 2.


Most big titles today are either third person action games, first peson shooter or sports title.

Don't give me the BS that "Sony main focus is story and not gameplay" when ALL BIG budget titles have cinematic gameplay.

Sony released MLB The Show
Sony will be releasing dreams, which is not a Third Person Narrative driven game.
Along with a line of VR titles.

I know what you're going to say, "No one cares bout those VR titles."


You're the same guy who tried to damage control Crackdown 3 flop when it was obvious the game didn't sell well, so I know you don't see things clearly. lol
 
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I don't know why Xbox fanboys complain..
That's a great comment and all but let me stop you right there, no one gives a fuck about VR.

Seriously but two of these companies are solid gets. The third I see the reasoning for kids market of games for gamepass. They should just buy up Sony, would have a return on investment in around 10 years.
 
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That's a great comment and all but let me stop you right there, no one gives a fuck about VR.

Seriously but two of these companies are solid gets. The third I see the reasoning for kids market of games for gamepass. They should just buy up Sony, would have a return on investment in around 10 years.
Just because you don't care about VR, that doesn't mean others don't. It doesn't surprise me that you would respond like this based on our previous conversations. You really have a habit of posting ridiculous stuff. lol
 
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Yeah Relic is owned by Sega which acquired the studio from THQ years ago. IO has been rumored for a while and I’ve never even heard of that third studio.

I wouldn’t blindly trust this leak but IO seems at least a sure thing with all the rumors circulating.

Could Microsoft even buy Relic from Sega? I got a feeling there’s something going on between the two companies, Sega and Microsoft.
 

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Just because you don't care about VR, that doesn't mean others don't. It doesn't surprise me that you would respond like this based on our previous conversations. You really have a habit of posting ridiculous stuff. lol
It's just my minimal level trolling to see who will bite and we can get a good laugh out of with a few paragraphs worth of a response :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

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Who cares if Microsoft is buying studios? With their current policy those games will be released even to toasters.
 

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They should just buy up Sony, would have a return on investment in around 10 years.
They could use the sony devs to create actual games, not rollercoaster rides. Hype hype, gfx over performance, no or bad MP, half game half cutscenes. They are made to win awards.
 

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Game pass just keeps getting better and better. Amazing value with the amount of exclusives coming.
Joke post?

Meh, they haven't exactly purchased any remarkable studios yet and it looks like that isn't really set to change.

They're currently having trouble staying afloat, aren't they? Not exactly a good sign your games are high demand, quality products...
They probably aim to be Netflix of gaming - a lot of mediocre content as a filler for their subscription service.
 

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They could use the sony devs to create actual games, not rollercoaster rides. Hype hype, gfx over performance, no or bad MP, half game half cutscenes. They are made to win awards.
Lets play this again, shall we?
Please point out the "rollercoaster rides":
I'll wait.

EDIT: I just checked Freeman454's post history on GAF. His entire literal existence here consists of liking anti Sony posts and posting Sony hate. lol WTF? This has got to be someone else's sockpuppet account.
 
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List wars wont gain you anything when more then half of it is VR and meh psn shovelware. The remaining are 3rd person cinematic 30fps movie games, siding to zombies somehow.

Edit: your posts are mainly pro sony. Quite telling that you have to look for my posts, trying to find excuses. Theres ppl like me who dont like Sonys practices as it doesnt do good to gaming in the long run, live with it.

If a company needs to lock games/content to only their platform, thats not a healthy sign. Sony wants this closed eco system probably cause its their only advantage.
 
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List wars wont gain you anything when more then half of it is VR and meh psn shovelware. The remaining are 3rd person cinematic 30fps movie games, siding to zombies somehow.
VR and PSN games don't count because they're inconvenient to your argument? lol. So you're just going to throw a hissy fit and not even play? Well thanks for trying, you lose anyway.

lol
-*Literally listing every PS4 Sony made game*
-"Wah list wars don't prove anything!!!"

In other news, receipts are now invalid.

Edit: your posts are mainly pro sony.
In terms of gaming I prefer Sony's platform. Yep. That said, I haven't dedicated my life to liking every anti MS & Nintendo post on the site and ONLY shit post about them. You need to seek help, my misguided friend. This is no life for a human to lead on the internet.

If a company needs to lock games/content to only their platform, thats not a healthy sign.
MS were famous for doing this last gen, lol. Try harder.
 
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You posting list wars about Sony games in a MS that bought studios thread is telling. Just accept it and let it sink.
Perhaps Sony finally has something to show soon at E3?

List wars dont prove anything if most of the content is VR/psn free shovelware. Many think they arent worth the subscription payment even.
 
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That said, I haven't dedicated my life to liking every anti MS & Nintendo post
The like button is there for a reason, people can voice their opinions, and i can "like" them as i please.
Perhaps its you that needs help. Your the one provoking list wars about Sony games in a Microsoft thread.
 

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You posting list wars about Sony games in a MS that bought studios thread is telling.
You crying about Sony's games in a thread about MS buying studios is even more telling. I posted as a response to you, btw. Don't pretend my post exists in a vacuum. Also you trying to flip the fanboy card on me is pretty funny. I present to the court exhibit A: Your post history. Click user name, scroll down to "Latest Activity", click "Show Older Items".

List wars dont prove anything if most of the content is VR/psn free shovelware.
How are most of Sony's games third person action movie games made to win awards if they're also "VR/psn free shovelware"?

You just defeated your own argument, dude.

The like button is there for a reason, people can voice their opinions, and i can "like" them as i please.
You sure can. It makes you look like a sad, obsessed fanboy, but hey, you're right. You can like what you want. At least you're being honest and admitting your sole purpose on GAF is to like anti Sony posts.
 
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