So you'll play all the games later than the release date then. Interesting.
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Rumour: Nintendo aiming for Zelda BotW release on June 16 (EUR), Switch release first
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So you'll play all the games later than the release date then. Interesting.
Linkstrikesback
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Hay Zeus! lmao
Lol this gif is perfect.
Don't think I don't understand the irony, in fact that's the best part of this principled (not substantial, as I explained earlier) decision
Maybe it's because some people don't care about what EA or MS does?
Don't flatter yourself, there's nothing principled about wanting to play Nintendo's games without giving them any money. Again, it's your right to be upset that somebody else gets to play a game before you, but the horses aren't as high as you think.
Thank you! This is what I was looking for, someone who is sad Nintendo will not see the money for it. You do care!
Vote with your dollars.
Octavianus
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Fake outrage is a beautiful thing. And all of it due to a rumour too.
I'm not sad at all. I actually find this whole discussion amusing.
Then what is wrong with buying used games on principle? You seem to be contradicting yourself.
And just to clarify, my issue has nothing to do with others being able to play it before I do, that aspect of the staggered release does not influence my decision making.
Nothing is wrong. You have strong principles. Very strong.
Cuningas de Häme
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Who said that Zelda was already perfectly playable? How would that person know that? Because of a demo that was from ONE SECTION of the game, stripped from everything related to story?
Hateboners for Nintendo... I never understood why some people have to get up in arms everytime there is a minor (if at all) negative thing about Nintendo?
At the same time people defend Sony's horribly customer service and unbelievably the fact that they pay for their online gaming on top of the internet bill. This forum...
Hateboners for Nintendo... I never understood why some people have to get up in arms everytime there is a minor (if at all) negative thing about Nintendo?
At the same time people defend Sony's horribly customer service and unbelievably the fact that they pay for their online gaming on top of the internet bill. This forum...
About British people, no less
Jonneh3003
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Cuningas de Häme;225373792 said:
Negativity is always stronger than positivity, it's just how humans are. Are people actually upset that the Wii U version is coming a week after the Switch version? Probably not. At least the game is still coming out on Wii U unlike The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy 15.
Gold.
I am, and The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy XV were never going to come out for the Wii U.
HandsomeCharles
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Buying exclusively used games to save yourself money is fine, but if you think you're "making a statement" against the publisher then you're totally deluded.
When you buy a used game, it means one player has been taken out of the pool and another added. The publisher already got "one player's worth" of revenue. It doesn't matter if the end user changes because the net result is the same.
Now if you really wanted to "stick it to the man" you should just pirate the games, but that's a pretty shitty thing to do.
Jonneh3003
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Its a week though, hardly anything to get up in arms about. The Switch version is the one they want to push, its still coming to Wii U.
Plus this is all just rumors at this point.
Edit to your edit: I think you misinterpreted what I said, The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy 15 were announced on PS3 but are instead coming to PS4. My point was Breath of the Wild is still coming out on Wii U unlike them.
The net result is definitely not the same, I would be taking it away from the pool from other people who will buy used instead of new, and with a game that will ship as many copies as Zelda there will be no shortage of used copies on the market. People who choose to buy used when they typically buy new games affects the bottom line.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Ls all around
Then why should anyone take them seriously if they're gonna be hypocritical? Why is it okay that 360 owners have to wait a short bit for a hyped up game while Nintendo gets blasted for
maybe
So you are currently buying Nintendo games and devices new not second hand?
HandsomeCharles
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It's exactly the same. If there are 10 copies of a game sold and you buy your copy from one of those owners, there aren't 11 people playing it simultaneously, it's still 10. You have incurred no additional cost to the publisher, it's exactly the same as if you had never bought the game in the first place.
(Not to mention DLC or subscriptions where they could actually make money off you)
This discussion is so sad. It's just a week.
There is no betrayal or anything else from Nintendo, the Wii U is dead and buried and they want the Switch to be successful so they release it first there. If you like Nintendo products you also want the Switch to be successful (I do), so what's the problem. And if you bought the Wii U for Zelda, just don't buy a product for a game that is not released but anyway you will play it in any case.
There is no betrayal or anything else from Nintendo, the Wii U is dead and buried and they want the Switch to be successful so they release it first there. If you like Nintendo products you also want the Switch to be successful (I do), so what's the problem. And if you bought the Wii U for Zelda, just don't buy a product for a game that is not released but anyway you will play it in any case.
I used (lol pun) to, please learn to read better.
HandsomeCharles said:
Your explanation of the situation supports my argument that Nintendo won't profit from my used purchases... and I will definitely boycott DLC and digital downloads as well.
And to ensure that my buying a used copy is unlikely to affect another's decision to buy new or used I will buy used through the internet from a single person as opposed to Gamestop/Target/Best Buy's used sections, where another potential used consumer may be tempted to buy new if they are sold out of used copies.
Do you actually believe in this godawful argument? It's not like TLG or FFXV were artificially delayed to sell a new system. They were delayed because they couldn't finish the game for years because of problems, to the point that was better releasing in another console.Don't forget to stop off at the The Last Guardian thread frothing at the mouth about there being no PS3 version.
What you actually should think about Sony games are stuff like Gran turismo 6 or the last of us, released at the last breath of the ps3, that could even be delayed for the ps4, but they didn't.
And it's not like Sony treats their custormers well, they are both guilty of doing shit to their fans,but this time is Nintendo that's doing and after the wiiu, Nintendo is not on the best terms with everyone to get a free pass while making shit decisions.
TheMagician
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The same source that says the Wii U version is delayed says the game wasn't finished early enough to complete localisation due to the amount of testing required.
Your bias and tunnel vision with those comments is quite frighteningly stupid.
The difference is that BoTW was announced for WiiU and is coming out for WiiU, while TLG was announced for PS3 and will only come out on PS4. Yet the BotW situation of coming out one week later is much more enraging because Nintendo´s involved.
MK8´s DLC was half the game, you´ll be missing a ton of content if they do something similar in Switch with other games.
HandsomeCharles
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They won't profit, but they won't make a loss. That makes your boycott effectively useless. You're not punishing them because from their perspective you don't even exist as a potential customer. They don't include you in their forecasts and you will not have any noticeable effect on their profits what so ever.
Also I call bullshit. You get so riled up about a one week delay that I'm pretty certain you won't be able to stand the similar delays you have to wait for copies to appear on eBay, auctions to end and have the things shipped to you. You'll probably give up before you even start.
I knew that you will interpret it somehow wrongly, so I edited my post before you posting, but it was too late obviously.
But let me ask again. Did you buy the Wii U and and Wii U games as new?
? Are you for real? I never commented on the game being delayed on another topic. You should learn to read.
The game is being artificially delayed one week while being finished just so Nintendo can sell their new system. I guess it's too hard for you to understand since you think it's the same situation as TLG.
Well, Sony is involved with TLG also. But it's clear that they coudln't finish the game at the time and, being frankly, the game is niche as hell. It's not like they did something like that with uncharted or gran turismo, something that actually could sell systems.
If they did that with last Guardian just to sell ps4's, most of the comments would be "why they are doing this?" In disbelief.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Rename the console to Wii L.
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Lol at people upset. I Critize companies all the time, but delayed games is not one of them. No localizations and region locking drives me nuts (in part because i Think it's bad business in the long run), delays? Nah.
Buy systems based on games out now not promises. Potential should be considered, but you have no idea if the games will even be good.
People mad over the ONE week wiiu delay not six month delay? Come on now...
Buy systems based on games out now not promises. Potential should be considered, but you have no idea if the games will even be good.
People mad over the ONE week wiiu delay not six month delay? Come on now...
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TheMagician
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I bought my PS3 for Last Guardian.
I bought my Wii U for Zelda.
I will buy Zelda for my Wii U within days of its launch, which is an infinitely superior position than The Last Guardian.
You're biased against Nintendo is completely blinding you.
Nintendo could quite easily cancel Breath of Wild Wii U tomorrow for 'technical reasons', but they're still working on it even though the Wii U is completely dead.
What exactly is stopping Sony to release the promised PS3 version of TLG ? Technical issues ? The game looks already like a PS3 one but fine, just release a downgraded version, just like Nintendo is doing with Zelda.
So, what's the reason that make it so different from Zelda ?
Little Monser
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Your first paragraph is literally how a boycott works. A consumer can't force a loss on a company without theft, boycott is withholding one's support/money.
Also, one week isn't a ton of time, maybe they just care about the principle of the general disregard Nintendo treats Wii U owners with despite being some of their most faithful fans. I know that is my problem with the whole BotW ordeal. I can wait a week to play, but as a person who has owned literally every Nintendo system since the NES (excluding VB) I find the disregard for the most loyal of Nintendo fans shown here to be pretty insulting.
No big deal though, the Switch is basically nothing but Wii U games anyway at this point so I can wait. The way they have handled the Wii U has ensured that I'm never buying Nintendo systems at launch, or on the promise (explicitly made by Nintendo) of any game not yet released (even if it has a release date). I'll end of life cycle purchase all Nintendo products from here on out until they behave better.
TheMagician
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Nailed it.
Nintendo could bump up the graphics for the Switch version, cancel the Wii U version and say 'well technically it wouldn't look or run as well on Wii U so we cancelled it'.
We've seen nothing of The Last Guardian gameplay wise which wouldn't be possible on PS3.
As I've said in previous posts, yes.
HandsomeCharles said:
Where they would have profited before on my habit of buying video games new, they will see no profit, so it's a net loss. Not that hard to understand bud.
And no, I'm not bullshitting, I don't have a problem with waiting a week itself, as I've made crystal clear in previous posts. I would do the same if they were released a day apart, a month apart, whatever. I am an adult and have patience in the sense of time, but I have no patience for ridiculous business decisions for a company I've paid thousands of dollars to support in the past.
This has a lot to do with my attitude, a staggered release off the Switch and Wii U versions will simply be the straw that broke the camel's back.
correojon said:
DLC's an issue for another thread but I will say that I had a fully enjoyable experience with bare bones Mario Kart 8, never did pick up any of its DLC and don't have any plans to but still have fun with the game. At least compared to previous Mario Karts it was a similar experience without the DLC. The only reason I brought up DLC was the boycott factor. Hopefully Nintendo won't start a trend with Switch where the bare bones games really are incomplete games
How could you! I thought you're a man of principles! How could you buy those new when Nintendo pull the TP shit on Gamecube owners?
Herb Alpert
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I am a WiiU owner
How should i know? Do i work at Sony to say if it's feasible? You have to ask to them.
And now i'm biased against Nintendo,Themagician? You can check my post history. This gen i had no other consoles besides the wiiu and last gen i've also went with the Wii alone. I just don't car about Nintendo as a company since why should i? I will never "be grateful" a game will release since no one is giving me anything. I will still have to give my money to them.
I don't have to care about Nintendo and their future as a company. Nintendo is the one that needs to care about that and their fans. Right now they are only caring about the former.
The key difference is I did not care about Twilight Princess because it was a weirdo furry bug chaser game and I've known that since it was announced. I gave the game a shot eventually but my senses were right about that one, gave up about half way through out of boredom.
So it's not about principles in the end, got you. Because principles don't depend on the games. It's about you wanting BotW and not having patience to wait 1 week. Good luck with your boycott then, I'm sure it will work well for the games you want.
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