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Well, GAF. Mendes or Nolan. Your choice.
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Sam Mendes in Talks to Return for James Bond 24
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Nolan just for the reactions.
Can Crusher
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Joe Wright please.
Also, I said the first Craig Bond to feel like a Bond movie.
either one, I'll be completely fine. Nolan would need a co-director for the action, though
Pretty much, he did a fantastic job with the dreck he was given. Now if they can just get a decent script.
APZonerunner
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Fleming's original vision of Bond in the books - especially in Casino Royale - is really pretty different to the feel that became associated with Bond movies post-Goldfinger, to be honest. Some people feel like Casino Royale is a great movie but not as much of a "Bond Movie" as it sort of returns to the raw energy and feel of the early Fleming Novels - only really depicted in the movies in Dr. No, From Russia With Love and For Your Eyes Only. The Broccolis and EON made the choice to move in that direction, back to those first two movies, in a direct response to Bourne. They've said this. Casino Royale was a perfect point to start for that, to go back to basics.
It's just about the definition of what Bond is to an individual, I guess. I really separate novel and movie bond in my mind, and in that respect Skyfall was absolutely a return to the traditional, most used template for the movie series. Quantum has a lot of that template too, especially in the second half.
BertramCooper
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Quantum of Solace is far more Fleming-esque than Skyfall. In fact, it's probably the most Fleming-like of any of the non-book-based Bond films.
That's why I loved it, and why it annoys me that it gets shit on so much.
As for Mendes, I'm okay with him coming back, but I hope we get a far better screenplay. Skyfall's plot was a fucking mess.
That's why I loved it, and why it annoys me that it gets shit on so much.
As for Mendes, I'm okay with him coming back, but I hope we get a far better screenplay. Skyfall's plot was a fucking mess.
It had a terrible premise though. Just rubbish. That's why it gets shit on.
BertramCooper
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Not really. A villain highjacking a country's water supply for financial gain? It doesn't get much more Fleming than that.
I think the janky cinematography is what pisses off people most, and that's a legitimate beef. But the plot is actually pretty damned great. It's way better than the nonsense in Skyfall.
maquiladora
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Needs Deakins too.
Meh, I thought the villain was bush league compared to the norm, no threat to the UK, and no direct glogbal threat. The janky cinematography didn't bother me so much, it wasn't good, but it was no worse than most of the other movies that mass markets seem to love
Anyway, it was a far from perfect film, which is sad since the tone of it was great.
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A More Normal Bird
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Skyfall isn't self-aware? I think the most common complaint in that regard is that it's too self aware. I think yours might be a pretty unique view. Type "skyfall self aware" into google and the first 2 pages of results are all about how self-aware it is.
BertramCooper
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Greene wasn't a direct global threat, but the endgame was funding Quantum, which is a very direct global threat.
Speaking of which, I hope they don't abandon Quantum. It's fun to have a new SPECTRE-esque criminal organization to square off against Bond. They did a really good job setting them up in CR and QoS, and I'd hate to see it all go to waste.
Can Crusher
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Quantum just needed a little bit more quantum, and a lil bit more solace.
It's already done playboy.
It's already done playboy.
Yeah, I guess 'funding wars' just don't grip me.
BertramCooper
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And convoluted, nonsensical revenge plots as seen in Skyfall don't grip me.
Yeah, that too, I never said it was a great script, in fact, I said it was shit just up thread.
Ignatz Mouse
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Bert speaks wisdom.
Also, QoS suffered from some weird pacing, and weird changes of venue, and could have used some script cleanup. It was during the writer's strike, so there was a limit to what they could do while shooting.
I like QoS and Skyfall for different reasons. They both have their faults. In the end, I think QoS is a better movie but Skyfall is more immediately fun.
Also, QoS suffered from some weird pacing, and weird changes of venue, and could have used some script cleanup. It was during the writer's strike, so there was a limit to what they could do while shooting.
I like QoS and Skyfall for different reasons. They both have their faults. In the end, I think QoS is a better movie but Skyfall is more immediately fun.
Team Filler
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They should give it to the Wachowski's. Not only do I think that they made the best movie of last year, but they also are quite adept at the important elements necessary for great Bond films.
Not necessarily. The exact same thing happened 50 years ago. The first two films (Dr. No and FRWL) introduce an ongoing major threat (SPECTRE) only to be entirely abandoned in the third film (Goldfinger). They brought them back as an ongoing threat in the next film (Thunderball). Entirely possible.
Jason's Ultimatum
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It's funny, because Doug Liman always wanted to make a Bond film, and he said in an interview that Casino Royale would've been the Bond movie he'd make.
Anyone who thinks that the reboot Bond wasn't influenced by the Bourne movies is living in la la land.
no! Ang Lee instead.
PsihoPerihelion
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Deakins, Newman, Adele and Gassner all aboard again on the Bond train. Choo Choo motherfucker, sign me the fuck on.
John Logan is writing this one by himself so it should be a better script than Skyfall.
John Logan is writing this one by himself so it should be a better script than Skyfall.
BertramCooper
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If so, MGW and Babs must be throwing a shitload of cash at him, because I seem to recall the two-part concept being a big reason why he backed out of Bond 24.
Bobby Roberts
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For real, who can be mad at a guaranteed two movies w/ Mendes directing, Logan writing, and Deakins shooting? Plus probably Thomas Newton scoring?
I'd much rather have a core that solid than some constant turnover movie to movie.
I'd much rather have a core that solid than some constant turnover movie to movie.
Having a single director's vision across multiple Bond movies is really appealing to me. The switcheroo each time has lead to mixed results and directions for the character. CR>QOS>SF has been more consistent obviously. But I'd love to see what Mendes' influence over the character's direction begets.
For me, the best part of it is that there will be a consistent vision to directing Craig's exit from the series (since Bond 25 will almost definitely be his last one). I would hate the idea of having Craig just do a couple of standalone stories and then leaving; his continuity had a proper origin story, it should have a proper send-off story too.
good news just become excellent!
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Please be confirmed in the near future.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
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Please no. It amazed me how little energy there was in Skyfall's action sequences outside of the courtroom part.
I see my ban ended at the right time.
I am neither happy nor necessarily unhappy about this (if it indeed does happen). Skyfall had a great many issues and was the weakest of the Craig Bond films so far, but to be fair to Mendes, almost none of that was due to his direction, but rather the writing. I'd be willing to give him one more try to see if he can do better with more solid material.
I am neither happy nor necessarily unhappy about this (if it indeed does happen). Skyfall had a great many issues and was the weakest of the Craig Bond films so far, but to be fair to Mendes, almost none of that was due to his direction, but rather the writing. I'd be willing to give him one more try to see if he can do better with more solid material.
Mendes won't make a decision on Bond until he opens his new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory play
But I think that's kind of a confirmation in of itself. The fact that he went from "can't do it, I have theater plans" to "doing Bond again would make me sick" now to "let me get this thing out first" in just a manner of months is a pretty good indicator that something ($$$) changed his mind considerably.
But I think that's kind of a confirmation in of itself. The fact that he went from "can't do it, I have theater plans" to "doing Bond again would make me sick" now to "let me get this thing out first" in just a manner of months is a pretty good indicator that something ($$$) changed his mind considerably.
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