TheMoon
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these things are trash in general. had one for my computer but it caused hard crashes until I switched it out again.
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Scanline screenshot thread. Because 240p is all the p's I need.
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these things are trash in general. had one for my computer but it caused hard crashes until I switched it out again.
You'll be needing an active DAC to do the digital to analog conversion, I'm using a Tendak from this list.
There are some good suggestions later in the thread about the HD Fury series if you want something a bit more high end but it requires a power supply of sorts.
Hopefully, the Snes mini will get modded for 480p output, I can't stretch the 720p frame enough so that it fills the entire crt screen with just the active area.
tomwhite2004
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When you look at the few shots of the development environments out there I don't think they did. If they were then you would see a lot more of the sprite elements doubled up to account for the scan line, which clearly isn't the case if the below photos are anything to go by. Promo or manual shots often showed scan lines as it would just be an employee taking a picture directly from the screen.
SNK
SEGA
TAITO
davidwhangchoi
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the rain effect is amazing on Alundra
davidwhangchoi
Member
Vigilante - pc engine
i used to play that game a whole lot. i needed those nunchuks
sixteen-bit
Member
Sick Vigilante shots!
sixteen-bit
Member
mostly flickering during the replays and close ups which just breaks the immersion. Something that has always plagued this port.
Vigilante - pc engine
Awesome. Vigilante was a cult favorite of mine.
No words... other than, scanline heaven!
yup 2x. scanlines are about 31% strength, sampling phase 180 deg (although I couldn't see much difference upon changing this) , There was something else I had to reset but I can't remember what it was but changing it gave the impression that my saturn had jailbars.
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I'm also using this cable here. Mostly as I have a UK and JPN model saturn therefore one cable to switch between them otherwise I would have just gone with a csync for either pal or ntsc.
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/saturn/sega-saturn-rgb-av-scart-cable-tv-lead-cord-for-sale
EDIT
I'm also using this cable here. Mostly as I have a UK and JPN model saturn therefore one cable to switch between them otherwise I would have just gone with a csync for either pal or ntsc.
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/saturn/sega-saturn-rgb-av-scart-cable-tv-lead-cord-for-sale
the androgyne
Member
Finally got around to upgrading to JP21 RGB for my Super Famicom and of course, very glad i did! The S-Video that I was using before was pretty close in sharpness, but had some bright color flickering that's completely gone through RGB.
It's been fun comparing it with the Classic Mini which i got on the weekend too. I actually don't mind the Mini's slightly blurred CRT filter, but the crispness of RGB is so lovely! My old SFC has a bit of noise in dark areas though, so the Mini is a lot clearer in that regard so it's still a nice way to play.
Next on the retro list will be replacing my original power supply which i think is the cause of the noise, considering it's being held together with electrical tape. It was my wife's from childhood, don't look at me like that!
It's been fun comparing it with the Classic Mini which i got on the weekend too. I actually don't mind the Mini's slightly blurred CRT filter, but the crispness of RGB is so lovely! My old SFC has a bit of noise in dark areas though, so the Mini is a lot clearer in that regard so it's still a nice way to play.
Next on the retro list will be replacing my original power supply which i think is the cause of the noise, considering it's being held together with electrical tape. It was my wife's from childhood, don't look at me like that!
Are you using a cheap 3rd party power supply with your SFC? It's likely causing the noise you're seeing. Chances are, the noise will go away with a proper power cable.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
THIS extremely important.
my super famicom was having static issues on rgb.
i bought an original super famicom power adapter and bam problems gone.
I can't state this enough don't get those cheap 3rd party power adapters!
the androgyne
Member
No no, when i said original i meant original!
But yeah some point in the last 26 years it must have got damaged and "repaired" by my inlaws:
Yeap, that's bandage tape not electrical tape lol
I've been indecisive for months about what to replace it with. In Japan there's a number of new 3rd party ones from brands that sell modern day accessories too, though you might not have heard of them outside Japan:
Answer, Columbus Circle and A'Class
The Answer one has the most reviews but the few bad ones say it either stopped working or exhibited noise. It also seems to be the oldest, first listed in 2011. The other 2 don't have many reviews but are generally positive. I could probably get an official one again off of Yahoo Auctions, but the age of them and everything on there being labelled "junk" (untested) has kept me away. I did get my N64 power adapter that way and it's been fine. What do you guys reckon?
But yeah some point in the last 26 years it must have got damaged and "repaired" by my inlaws:
Yeap, that's bandage tape not electrical tape lol
I've been indecisive for months about what to replace it with. In Japan there's a number of new 3rd party ones from brands that sell modern day accessories too, though you might not have heard of them outside Japan:
Answer, Columbus Circle and A'Class
The Answer one has the most reviews but the few bad ones say it either stopped working or exhibited noise. It also seems to be the oldest, first listed in 2011. The other 2 don't have many reviews but are generally positive. I could probably get an official one again off of Yahoo Auctions, but the age of them and everything on there being labelled "junk" (untested) has kept me away. I did get my N64 power adapter that way and it's been fine. What do you guys reckon?
I'd get an original one off eBay.
Laevateinn
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davidwhangchoi
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beautiful screens!
i loved this game. except the bear, he was useless.
i loved this game. except the bear, he was useless.
Laevateinn
Member
My mom threw my original copy away because she thought it was Satanic 
Thanks!
Yeah, it looks good. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to display scanlines on a 1080p display. I believe they output even and nicely in Line2x and optim. modes, due to scaling not being integer in the other ones.
And no c-sync cable for me either, as I unfortunately found out (indeed thanks to RGC) my Japanese Model 2 Saturn's board isn't compatible. :/
POWER UP! Great Altered Beast shots.
I love it, but I agree. It seems to be the most decisive game ever brought up in various Retro threads. Something about it just seems to make people post heaps of praise or absolute vitrol every time it gets mentioned.
I love it, but I agree. It seems to be the most decisive game ever brought up in various Retro threads. Something about it just seems to make people post heaps of praise or absolute vitrol every time it gets mentioned.
Laevateinn
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It's not fantastic but it was a good launch title and makes for a good half hour of play like an arcade game should.
Gamers today demand too much out of gaming. One of the best things lost to the ages are games that you can enjoy for less than an hour, put away and maybe get back to months later.
Gamers today demand too much out of gaming. One of the best things lost to the ages are games that you can enjoy for less than an hour, put away and maybe get back to months later.
davidwhangchoi
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haha my mom used to be like that.My mom threw my original copy away because she thought it was Satanic
i loved the arcade. everyone did. that tension feeling you get when you miss a power up orb.
bc these games were mostly about timing hits or face the consequences of counter attacks, i didn't like this and Golden Axe translation for genesis bc certain moves were broken and OP for the console versions breaking the difficulty and gameplay.
for example, stage 3 had those bees the run really fast one missed time attack and you're dead. Genesis had a rapid fire crouch punch on power level one that made it infinitely easier w/ no worries of mistimed attacks. especially when power up wolves dash at you full speed, killing the challenge.
Golden Axe is similar where timing attacks are crucial to the challenge and gameplay. the MD/Genny version you can basically spam jump slash rapid fire and kill every boss with ease. the hit box distance is so wide and long there's no challenge.
Laevateinn
Member
I can't say anything about the Altered Beast arcade version but I own the PCB for Golden Axe and I prefer the console version. The AI in the arcade version is programmed to just get in line with your player and then spam attack. It's pretty easy to exploit and the arcade version is much easier. It's been a while since I played it but I'm pretty sure I could 1cc after a few practice rounds because of this.
davidwhangchoi
Member
the arcade is much better and harder! genny version is like taking a nap =P
yeah that's awesome you own it.
davidwhangchoi
Member
Love it!
Same here. But on MD/Genesis, the eye puplis in that attract sequence don'tget small and then large like they do in the arcade.
https://youtu.be/-baPPm1gf6Y?t=21s
https://youtu.be/ZctXusIhUeM?t=10s
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Parodius Da! Saturn - S-Video / Toshiba CRT.
Yay more Parodius !
I was just playing this and I just suck at it now...
TG16 version.
Yay more R-Type! one of my favorite games of all time. Fantastic pic btw!
Kinda reminds me of a screenshot of it in EGM issue #2
But yours is much better
the androgyne
Member
Buster Busts Loose on the Framemeister in RGB! Great looking stages and animation in this game.
davidwhangchoi
Member
nice image.Yay more Parodius !
I was just playing this and I just suck at it now...
TG16 version.
i love taking out those top unreachable guns behind the engine core. i'm looking to buy this next for the turbo express -)
the androgyne
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I finished it as a kid somehow, but it was indeed tougher than i remembered! Particularly how he runs up and jumps off of walls can be tricky. I made it to the last boss but died a few times! I nabbed a few N64 games today as well so i stopped to play them instead.
