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[Krejlooc]

Confirmation that this is not a VR-only game; VR may be added as a stretch goal.

I never said this was VR only. I said this was being consciously designed for VR, which it is. There are numerous design decisions that drive VR games that aren't normally considered in conventional games. You can play a game designed for VR on a normal monitor, but the experience won't be quite the same. You really can't play a game not taking VR into consideration in VR. Simply slapping VR support into a game makes for a horrible experience.

Everything they're showing and saying, and given this title's genesis, indicates this is an experience created for VR. The described "unique features" are the common practices that have emerged in VR design. That feature set is purposeful. This is following the same mold as other tailored-for-VR games as Technolust and Loading Human.

You misunderstood the distinction and sent the guy a loaded question.

 

[Seanspeed]

I never said this was VR only. I said this was being consciously designed for VR, which it is. There are numerous design decisions that drive VR games that aren't normally considered in conventional games. You can play a game designed for VR on a normal monitor, but the experience won't be quite the same. You really can't play a game not taking VR into consideration in VR. Simply slapping VR support into a game makes for a horrible experience.

Everything they're showing and saying, and given this title's genesis, indicates this is an experience created for VR. The described "unique features" are the common practices that have emerged in VR design. That feature set is purposeful. This is following the same mold as other tailored-for-VR games as Technolust and Loading Human.

You misunderstood the distinction and sent the guy a loaded question.

Yea, I don't think a lot of people really understand that putting a VR mode in after-the-fact is not how you do VR support(excluding certain genres that are inherently suited to VR already like racing sims).

 

[Krejlooc]

Yea, I don't think a lot of people really understand that putting a VR mode in after-the-fact is not how you do VR support(excluding certain genres that are inherently suited to VR already like racing sims).

I also get that people don't hang out in oculus forums all day so they probably don't see a good 90% of the VR content that comes out every week... but this is an archetypal VR game. This isn't really like most other games, the focus of this game is basically going to another place and experiencing it. Hence the no plot business. There are so many VR demos that follow this mold.

This game is following a pretty distinct pattern if you're paying attention to VR development.

 

[A-V-B]

They've become kind of overused.

Phalluses are out. Yonis are in.

This statement couldn't be any truer if it tried.

 

[Gruso]

I never said this was VR only. I said this was being consciously designed for VR, which it is. There are numerous design decisions that drive VR games that aren't normally considered in conventional games. You can play a game designed for VR on a normal monitor, but the experience won't be quite the same. You really can't play a game not taking VR into consideration in VR. Simply slapping VR support into a game makes for a horrible experience.

Everything they're showing and saying, and given this title's genesis, indicates this is an experience created for VR. The described "unique features" are the common practices that have emerged in VR design. That feature set is purposeful. This is following the same mold as other tailored-for-VR games as Technolust and Loading Human.

You misunderstood the distinction and sent the guy a loaded question.

Mate, it's a bit simpler than that. You implied that I had left critical information out of the OP:

Really? No mention that this is a game designed explicitly for VR in the OP? It's not a normal game, it's meant to be played in VR with a positionally tracked system, either PrioVR or Sixense STEM.

So I checked with the devs to make sure I hadn't. And it turned out I hadn't:

Initial goal is for the standard monitor game.

The end. Please stop.

 

[Seanspeed]

Mate, it's a bit simpler than that. You implied that I had left critical information out of the OP:



So I checked with the devs to make sure I hadn't. And it turned out I hadn't:



The end. Please stop.

Its still worth mentioning that VR is still a part of the project.

Is being technically correct more important than being informative?

 

[Gruso]

My only concern is the accuracy of the OP.

 

[Seanspeed]

My only concern is the accuracy of the OP.

There's nothing inaccurate about saying that VR is still a part of this project. :/

I think you're just being stubborn now.

 

[Jac_Solar]

Is 200.000 Euro enough for such a title? If I remember correctly, a single level in a 2D Kickstarter game cost like 150-200.000 US dollars with an established engine and gameworld.

 

[Seanspeed]

Is 200.000 Euro enough for such a title? If I remember correctly, a single level in a 2D Kickstarter game cost like 150-200.000 US dollars with an established engine and gameworld.

They have some private backing, but they say not nearly enough. Full budget will be around 700,000 Euro. 200,000 Euro here is just for Episode 1 and to help bring on some more hirings.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I'm half surprised that Sony hasn't picked this up for Morpheus. Seems like they could fund the whole game for a comparatively small amount and have a pretty impressive and distinct VR release on their hands.

I like this look of this, but cannot contribute right now as I'm very overdrawn this month. But I hope it succeeds.

 

[Gruso]

There's nothing inaccurate about saying that VR is still a part of this project. :/

I think you're just being stubborn now.

Dude I never refused to add a mention of VR to the OP. It is of course little more than a stretch goal now, and is covered on the KS page. But I've added it to the OP.

All this drama. I just wanted to make sure I didn't screw up the OP entirely, because Krejlooc made me think that I had.

 

[Jac_Solar]

They have some private backing, but they say not nearly enough. Full budget will be around 700,000 Euro. 200,000 Euro here is just for Episode 1 and to help bring on some more hirings.

Oh, that makes more sense.

In any case, I hope it's not too abstract and weird, like Zeno Clash, which this sort of reminds me of. While that type of universe is interesting in terms of art, it's not really interesting or even enjoyable in terms of storytelling, since its abstract nature makes it hard to relate, and in turn, form any kind of emotional attachments and such. I think that's even more important for a horror game -- as in, weird shouldn't be normal from your characters point of view. They need to use normal, human, earth standards for what's supposed to be weird and normal; like, the world is just as alien from the main characters point of view as it is to you.

A Lovecraftian type of storytelling and world building would probably be awesome with this type of design.

 

[Arsenic13]

OP, we posted an interview with the team last night. http://www.relyonhorror.com/in-depth/inside-the-indie-studio-with-ebb-software-scorn/

Interesting notes: Sony just ceased conversations with them; they're going with a no-compromise approach - forgoing backer forums and input.

 

[Mdk7]

OP, we posted an interview with the team last night. http://www.relyonhorror.com/in-depth/inside-the-indie-studio-with-ebb-software-scorn/

Interesting notes: Sony just ceased conversations with them; they're going with a no-compromise approach - forgoing backer forums and input.

Interesting read, i contacted them and will have an interview as well.
If you guys have something in mind you want to know, just ask me and i'll ask the developers.

 

[Arion]

Im not seeing enough penises in the art...

 

[Lernaean]

OP, we posted an interview with the team last night. http://www.relyonhorror.com/in-depth/inside-the-indie-studio-with-ebb-software-scorn/

This is so damn interesting. Especially the way they want to approach a lived in world and its inhabitants. Awesome.

 

[Seanspeed]

Dude I never refused to add a mention of VR to the OP. It is of course little more than a stretch goal now, and is covered on the KS page. But I've added it to the OP.

All this drama. I just wanted to make sure I didn't screw up the OP entirely, because Krejlooc made me think that I had.

Wasn't trying to be dramatic about it. Just felt that mentioning the VR aspect of this is kind of important to some of us. I know a lot of people don't care about VR much(yet!), but there's people out there who will be more likely to support this if VR implementation might be on the cards.

 

[Neuromancer]

It's a shame Sony never got back to them.

 

[Nachtmaer]

I was wondering when more info would show up. They seem to have nailed down that Giger meets Beksinski style. I'll be looking forward to future updates.

 

[Mdk7]

First update on Kickstarter, yet only 1067€ raised (out of 200.000) in a day.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/571331118/scorn-episode-one/posts

 

[-SD-]

This game looks fantastic!

Also, quite unique compared to others in the genre.

Really hope this gets a lot of coverage in the gaming press and gets funded.

 

[Dark_castle]

First person - Nope, I'm out.

 

[Mdk7]

This game looks fantastic!

Also, quite unique compared to others in the genre.

Really hope this gets a lot of coverage in the gaming press and gets funded.

Too bad the Kickstarter is really struggling, it needs a lot more exposition.
Let's do something guys, i really really want to play it! :/

 

[Arsenic13]

I haven't noticed any other sites covering this. Hmm

 

[PooBone]

This looks tantalizing. Will be watching its progress.

That's the most Giger-esque art I've ever seen that wasn't by HR Giger.

 

[DagnastyEp]

Dang, it looks really cool, but my main/only gaming platform is XB1; I'm not going to support the game if I'm not going to be able to play it.

I hope it does well though.

 

[Sotha_Sil]

I remember when everyone thought those screens were going to be from Sony Bend's next game.

 

[Nachtmaer]

I haven't noticed any other sites covering this. Hmm

It would be nice if Rock Paper Shotgun picks up on it.

 

[Arsenic13]

I remember when everyone thought those screens were going to be from Sony Bend's next game.

Which was funny for us, because we knew that the site claiming so pulled that out of thin air since the screens were sent to us and posted to Gaf. Silly

 

[Castef]

Yeh I was definitely expecting more dick from this.

Dick-bait.

 

[Castef]

Too bad the Kickstarter is really struggling, it needs a lot more exposition.
Let's do something guys, i really really want to play it! :/

As long as it may sound stupid, they should add more payment options. I know that Amazon and Paypal take their share, yet for some people they are becoming just like Steam: they won't fund a game if there isn't one of these options.

Also, add Xbox One as a platform.

In addition: lower the base price of the game to 10$. People reads that "Episode 1" and imagine spending 15$ dollars on something with a length of 2/3 hours.

Overall, the project has NOT been presented in a very smart way.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

I will probably end up backing but lately I have a real beef with episodic games,and a Kickstarter for just episode one is a bit worrisome.

 

[Leafhopper]

Finally Dark Seed 3.

 

[inm8num2]

Finally Dark Seed 3.

The visuals certainly reminded me of the DS games. Looks incredible - good luck to this project.

 

[lefantome]

I haven't noticed any other sites covering this. Hmm

Yes I can't understand wny. WTF

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

Looks like it could be awesome. I'll keep my eye on it.

 

[Fuz]

Kinda reminds me of Darkseed.

Tentatively interested.


Edit:

Finally Dark Seed 3.

Damn, beaten.

 

[Mdk7]

I haven't noticed any other sites covering this. Hmm

I did my part!
http://it.ign.com/scorn-pc/89448/opinion/kickstart-this-scorn
But yeah, that's... weird.

 

[Dusk Golem]

I'll be contributing when I have money at the end of the month, hope it goes through, still 30 days to go but still a long way to go.

 

[Messofanego]

Looks amazing. The details remind me of The Void game, could be harsh.

 

[Guile]

Looks really good, am always vouching for new ambitious projects like these. A fresh breath of air between all the Call of Duty's, Battlefields and other mindless shooters.

Hopefully these guys will get enough support and I'm secretly hoping for a PS4/XONE release aswell.

 

[Gruso]

Today I learned that the guy doing the score, also did the score for A Serbian Film. Oh my.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikluh_Sky

 

[Fatal Futanari]

Today I learned that the guy doing the score, also did the score for A Serbian Film. Oh my.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikluh_Sky

oh snap!

 

[Secret Fawful]

Geez. The lack of support for this is extremely depressing. Such an original-looking title.

 

[Mdk7]

I had an interview with the game director, i'll be posting it here tomorrow.
I still can't understand why major gaming outlets are not giving visibility to a project like this, it's complete non-sense to me.

 

[gabbo]

Looks amazing. The details remind me of The Void game, could be harsh.

Yep. Reminded me so much of an Ice-Pick Lodge title, made me want it more.

 

[thesaucetastic]

The lack of support for this is pretty depressing.

 

[Messofanego]

Fuck it, backed it.

 

[WavekSra]

I will buy at a high price if I was rich