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Senate to begin bipartisan health care push

GK86

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When Congress returns to Washington after Labor Day, it will immediately confront a tough question: Can there be bipartisan agreement on fixing the country's health care system?

The Senate health committee announced on Tuesday that it will hold two back-to-back hearings on health care September 6 and 7. That will be the first time that Republican and Democratic senators officially gather together to examine potential ways to stabilize the Obamacare marketplace. Witnesses are expected to include governors and state insurance commissioners.

"While there are a number of issues with the American health care system, if your house is on fire, you want to put out the fire, and the fire in this case is in the individual health insurance market," Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander, the Republican chairman of the health committee, said in a statement.

Since the failed Senate vote, there have been growing calls on both sides of the political aisle to start fresh discussions to fix Obamacare on a bipartisan basis -- a clear sign that even Democrats admit that the law is far from perfect.

Alexander said an urgent priority is to find ways to bring down sky-rocketing premiums and also offer some reassurances to insurance companies that need to soon decide whether to participate in the exchanges next year.

President Donald Trump, who has publicly called on McConnell since the Senate vote to keep trying to repeal Obamacare, offered some relief to insurance companies last week. The Trump administration will pay insurers a key Obamacare subsidy this month despite Trump's earlier threats to end the cost-sharing reduction payments.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Trump to begin preparing to veto

Sad that he's too simple-minded to realize that much of his base (and independents, and Democrats) would be actually appreciative if he tried to help fix the ACA rather than tear it down.

Dems should really just push for UHC. Stop beating around the bush.

Strangely, whenever someone says we should listen to ideas from both sides, this option is completely off the table in their minds.
 

theechrisfox

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Why even bother attempting a compromise or negotiation at this point? It backfired for Democrats every time under the last administration.
 

jimmypython

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Trump will sign anything at this point as long as he can claim the credit (redeem campaign promise, bring both sides together, ultimate deal maker etc etc). So dems better take advantage of this.
 

Snwaters

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This is in the Senate. The House is a different animal. Even if there is bipartisan support for it, Ryan is such a wet noodle that I can still see it failing there. Freedom Caucas gives mo fucks.
 

RevoDS

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All of my money and possessions on no deal.

Republicans won't accept anything that improves healthcare and Democrats won't agree to anything that hurts it.

Everyone keeps their positions and this dies like the 15 other bills that came before
 

G.ZZZ

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The little i've read is not encouraging. Basically a lot of """"center""""" democrats would go for an even worse ACA than the actual one and for tax cuts.

 

Con_Smith

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I'm sure Trump will make an appearance to provide the assistance needed, since this shit is so hard...
 

dramatis

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Most of the DNC would rather repeal the ACA than have a first world health care system.
The DNC is an organization, not a political party. They aren't particularly a policy organization either, just one focused on electing Democratic presidents. So I'm not sure how the DNC is relevant to the ACA or health care?
 

Plinko

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I really think it would be wise for democrats to be unsupportive of anything republicans want. They own this. They tried to screw over America with worse health care. Let them deal with the consequences.

Any legislation passed will be claimed by Trump and the GOP as a victory and they'll take credit for any positive things happening.
 

CDX

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Single Payer or UHC is not going to happen while Republicans are in the majority.

I would hope a Public Option would be something that could happen, that'd be a huge step in the right direction. So I'm not getting my hopes up expecting any Republicans are going to vote for it.
 

rjinaz

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It will be half-hearted. There will be nothing there for the Dems to get behind. And the Republicans will have this to hold over Democrat's heads come 2018.
"Hey we tried to be bipartisan and save healthcare but the nasty Democrats are unreasonable once again!"

But we'll see. Nothing that comes from that party is good.
 

I H8 Memes

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Unfortunately helping republicans to pass a health care overhaul opens a path for them to really fuck the country. They need a healthcare solution before they can can get to work on revamping the tax code. And you know what that is going to look like.
 

Apt101

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Stinkles

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No Shit? This has been said right from the beginning by nearly every Democrat.

And for some reason people keep forgetting it got into that horrible contorted shape through bipartisan negotiation and then subsequent deliberate mutilation by the GOP.
 

FullMetalx117

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I really think it would be wise for democrats to be unsupportive of anything republicans want. They own this. They tried to screw over America with worse health care. Let them deal with the consequences.

Any legislation passed will be claimed by Trump and the GOP as a victory and they'll take credit for any positive things happening.

Yup that's the biggest danger in all of this. Trump/GOP will be credited for fixing health care
 

kirblar

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This guy wants to allow states to place Medicaid into their exchange like any private insurance company can. Sounds good to me:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...ial&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1503415472

I'd like to read some informed criticisms though, what pitfalls that might lead to. But just looking at the general info of the plan, it seems like a good alternative to a true public option.
The concept is fine- the big reason why it's always been Medicare and not Medicaid as the push is that Medicare rates pay out much better to providers. (aka there are way more doctors accepting Medicare patients relative to ones accepting Medicaid.)
 

Fenderputty

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Trump has a greater chance of going to prison after impeachment than there is of a bipartisan healthcare bill being passed.
 

PBY

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Ohh hey look a stupid purity comment that helped lead to the scenario we're in.

Sure. But I get this "fuck off" attitude when you consider that the Republicans aren't going to negotiate in good faith either.

There should be zero concessions to the right, the Dems have all the leverage.