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SESSLER'S SOMETHING Nintendo Skipping Their E3 Press Conference
- Thread starter tajd
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The only people who seem to be directly affected are the journalists, who lose the excitement of a live show. I don't see what gamers lose in the equation if the Nintendo Direct is timed to E3... there's no reason it can't get the same mainstream coverage that people are talking about.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
This is simply not true. While they don't wait with bated breath over every announcement, a select few announcements will be reported on. You can bet your ass there will be coverage of Nextbox and PS4.
grimshawish
Banned
I feel its coming 100% from the same realm of reasoning that some people don't think the software situation will change from now over the lifetime of the system.
Not true with everything, but I just don't see Sessler's POV unless he really thinks E3 is the only way to connect with a certain part of the market...and that somehow the conference is the only part of E3.
Of course it's a bad idea. If you want to see the results of doubling down on your die-hard fanbase instead of trying to appeal to a wider audience, look no further than Blackberry. It doesn't matter how dire the situation is, the last thing Nintendo needs right now is less exposure.
You don't think the press is going to be watching the direct? Why is everyone acting like the Wii U is the only place to watch the direct?
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't the only people who watch the Nintendo E3 press conferences are nintendo fans and the press anyway? What really changes?
People are reacting as if Nintendo isn't announcing anything at all.
Excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't the only people who watch the Nintendo E3 press conferences are nintendo fans and the press anyway? What really changes?
People are reacting as if Nintendo isn't announcing anything at all.
krypt0nian
Banned
Wow and they could have that and the other coverage a presser gives. Huh.
You'd think Nintendo fans wouldn't be defending this insane choice. You'd think.
And a lot of those happen before e3.. even still nintendo is having an event for these type on that Tuesday morning before e3.. at the Nokia Theater like they have for several years
The perception is that Nintendo is giving up or is hiding, or is scared. Got nothing to show etc.
But this perception is likely held by people who already weren't going to buy the Wii U anyway, so it is not really as damaging as he thinks it is. The Nintendo fans will be glued to the latest Nintendo Direct with their Weegee hats anyway
Thus nobody is changing "sides" here, or is getting converted to one or the other side. Who "wins" E3 does not matter even a few days after the event
I still love Ses', he is awesome but i disagree with him on this one
But this perception is likely held by people who already weren't going to buy the Wii U anyway, so it is not really as damaging as he thinks it is. The Nintendo fans will be glued to the latest Nintendo Direct with their Weegee hats anyway
Thus nobody is changing "sides" here, or is getting converted to one or the other side. Who "wins" E3 does not matter even a few days after the event
I still love Ses', he is awesome but i disagree with him on this one
metalslimer
Member
To be honest, if this is the way Nintendo wants to go, why are they even showing up to E3 with any kind of conference? They've already stopped going to TGS and hold their own conference. I guess my real question is why can't Nintendo just do all of this along with a regular conference or just go their own way?
This would be the case with or without a theatre presentation by Nintendo. There's no difference for the vast, vast majority of the world who watches Nintendo's E3 announcements online versus through an E3 Direct stream.
Because they're still going to hold press events make game announcements, and have new demos on the show floor. The Pre-E3 conferences are only a part of what E3 is about and most people watch it online in the first place.
DragonSworne
Banned
The thing is, these are the people Nintendo is hoping will hype Wii U games and spread good news.
Pissing off the press and letting them think Nintendo has already failed E3 is not a good plan.
Iwata just doesn't get the modern world.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Nintendo bowing out of E3 is fucking madness.
They'll have barely any press coverage while MS/Sony run circles around them.
It depletes enthusiast mindshare.
No Nintendo at TGS, no Nintendo at E3 - the only time Nintendo will show their hand is fucking Nintendo Direct (which are mostly announced like a fuckin' day before they air.)
There is NOTHING good about this.
They'll have barely any press coverage while MS/Sony run circles around them.
It depletes enthusiast mindshare.
No Nintendo at TGS, no Nintendo at E3 - the only time Nintendo will show their hand is fucking Nintendo Direct (which are mostly announced like a fuckin' day before they air.)
There is NOTHING good about this.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
That talks a lot about over confidece... or the lack of it.
grimshawish
Banned
They are at E3.
Yes, they could, and I tend to think its better to have a full blown presser..but some of the conclusions being drawn are ridiculous. If Nintendo has Mario Universe, Mario Kart, and Retro-dude bro game out this holiday no one is going to remember that they weren't unveiled to a live audience.
The thing is that the press is indeed going to be in the room, the ones that aren't going to see that is us. We'll see it in Direct form.
Nintendo will still be at E3 with their games. Just no huge press conference.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
You´re delusional. The mainstream press covers E3 every year. This year there will be even more coverage due to new consoles.
metalslimer
Member
Which brings me to my question: why even show up at E3? If in the end none of this matters at all, why not pull a Rockstar and just save some money.
My problem is I think Nintendo is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. They shouldn't present at E3 in the style that Microsoft and Sony will because the Wii U can't stack up to the (presumed) visuals the next gen systems can generate.
That doesn't mean MS and Sony will succeed in demonstrating the power properly, but it's possible enough that this is the right thing to do for Nintendo.
But, then you get back to the original point that having the Wii-U barely be above the 360 and PS3 (if that) with no great gimmick to pull in the mainstream was a horrible idea.
That doesn't mean MS and Sony will succeed in demonstrating the power properly, but it's possible enough that this is the right thing to do for Nintendo.
But, then you get back to the original point that having the Wii-U barely be above the 360 and PS3 (if that) with no great gimmick to pull in the mainstream was a horrible idea.
SolidSnakex
Member
He says that just doing ND's are bad because it's an echo chamber and doesn't reach a broader audience, but how would an E3 conference be any different? The average consumer doesn't give a shit or probably even know what E3 is. That's an event that the core gamer cares about. And the only other people that care about that are distributors, and Nintendo is taking care of them with a closed door meeting.
I think Sessler is still living in a time when E3 meant a lot more than it does now. It's just another show at this point. It's still the biggest show of them all, but it's not the grand slam event that it was years ago. We've seen companies holding more and more conferences before and after E3 to show their games instead of just holding them all back for E3.
I think Sessler is still living in a time when E3 meant a lot more than it does now. It's just another show at this point. It's still the biggest show of them all, but it's not the grand slam event that it was years ago. We've seen companies holding more and more conferences before and after E3 to show their games instead of just holding them all back for E3.
It's true that ND are watched mostly by people who are already Nintendo fans, but not just them: last ND records (so, after they happened) obtained to see between 600k and 1 million views in one week, with 60-70% on eShop, the rest outside of eShop, so people who can perfectly be not a Nintendo fan / as much a Nintendo fan as others who watch the event. Moreover, I feel that importance of E3 in the grand scheme of things is exaggerated. One example for all: 3DS at E3 2010 and its launch in 2011.
Because E3 is still big news. It doesn't mean they can't run their own race, and all of the games they're announcing are still going to appear there.
Nintendo haven't forgotten that E3 is a big deal to show your stuff. They're just showing it their own way that's still going to encompass what has been, but in a way that can hopefully satisfy most people who are in for each subject. Some for press, some focused for gamers, some for distributors, and individual ones beforehand focusing on individual games they would otherwise spend 20 minutes explaining on the show floor.
I still can't believe Nintendo did this. Despite having a presence and the Directs, an E3 Conference is the real event that allows a company to show what they have in store for the next year. This move just seems like Nintendo has no confidence in their product and that their setting themselves up to be overshadowed even more. When all of the lists for "Best Trailers of E3" and "Biggest Surprise of E3" come out, Nintendo won't be anywhere near those lists. It takes away their ability to make a proper impact and they're in dire need of it right now.
krypt0nian
Banned
I never said no one would hear. But limiting more (basically) FREE exposure is foolish.
Literacy is important kids.
cramoss
Member
Yep, still not sure about this move by Nintendo.
UberTag
Member
Pretty much echoes my comments from yesterday.
Always nice to have my viewpoint reaffirmed by someone as savvy as the Sess.
Nintendo needs to stop being so insular. That's not a way to grow an audience.
Thankfully the 3DS should flourish in spite of Nintendo's missteps on the strength of its 2013 release calendar.
Always nice to have my viewpoint reaffirmed by someone as savvy as the Sess.
Nintendo needs to stop being so insular. That's not a way to grow an audience.
Thankfully the 3DS should flourish in spite of Nintendo's missteps on the strength of its 2013 release calendar.
decoyplatypus
Member
That is not the argument for why Nintendo ditching the E3 Press Conference is a good thing. It is just one (bad) argument for why Nintendo ditching the E3 Press Conference is a good thing. Better reasons have been given by many Gaffers, but I'll quote one here:
The point is, no E3 Press Conference does not mean that the only announcements will be through Nintendo Direct. Nintendo could very well have events just for the press. They're just not going to have one, giant event that is supposed to cater to everyone.
opticalmace
Member
How much can one man gesticulate? Honestly.
Also, I agree with him.
Also, I agree with him.
I tend to agree- my point is I don't think in the end it will matter. They will get a lot of press from hands on,etc.
If they have the games they have the games.
Someone, please explain the difference between a live streamed press conference and a stream of a pre-recorded video.
What makes the general public watch one over the other? Please, someone explain to me the massive implications of this world shattering change.
The answer: they're not. Any person can click on and watch the video at any time. Heck, you know GameTrailers is going to put it up with all their other press conference videos.
What makes the general public watch one over the other? Please, someone explain to me the massive implications of this world shattering change.
The answer: they're not. Any person can click on and watch the video at any time. Heck, you know GameTrailers is going to put it up with all their other press conference videos.
Because everything else is exactly the same. The difference is that their presentation will be streamed online rather than be in a theatre AND streamed online.
There isn't.
Here's what I don't get... the press hasn't been on Nintendo's side since like 2001. Why do they always bitch and moan when Nintendo doesn't do exactly what Sony and Microsoft are doing? They haven't shown any respect for Nintendo and their products for YEARS! Be happy that they're not giving you another stage show to go to that you didn't want to attend anyway!!
BlazingDarkness
Member
Not holding a press conference is pretty much equal to not turning up in terms of press coverage.
Takamura-San
Member
Isn't the point of a E3 Presentation is to convince other people of buying your console?
It was the E3 conference in 2006 and the coverage that it got that started to hype the Wii. Then it went mainstream to morning shows or shows like Ellen.
Nintendo Directs have yet to produce something like this.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
They aren't skipping E3, what the hell Sess. They just aren't making huge announcements during a single huge presentation.
People need to understand that Nintendo doesn't need to fight in these kinds of things anymore. I mean, yes, they need to be there for the buzz and the press, but they see themselves as being separate from most of this.
They dominate the handheld market and always have, and their IPs, when brought out in the right amounts and at the right times, do move consoles.
I for one will miss the blowouts at E3, but I welcome our new Nintendo Direct overlords, as I've been at the edge of my seat on multiple occasions (the Wii U direct) and have stayed up all night (Pokemon Direct) just to see these.
They dominate the handheld market and always have, and their IPs, when brought out in the right amounts and at the right times, do move consoles.
I for one will miss the blowouts at E3, but I welcome our new Nintendo Direct overlords, as I've been at the edge of my seat on multiple occasions (the Wii U direct) and have stayed up all night (Pokemon Direct) just to see these.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Nintendo fans just want big games and they will finally be getting/seeing them.
They also like Directs better because there's less fluff and they are more amusing.
Not hard to understand.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
metalslimer
Member
Skipping an E3 press conference....it even says it in the title. People know whats going on. Im still wondering why they cant just do the normal thing in addition to the rest of this,