You understand they're having press events right? To reiterate, the ONLY difference between having a theatre presentation and a direct is that the former has people in the room, there's no difference to the rest of the world.
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SESSLER'S SOMETHING Nintendo Skipping Their E3 Press Conference
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You understand they're having press events right? To reiterate, the ONLY difference between having a theatre presentation and a direct is that the former has people in the room, there's no difference to the rest of the world.
Or maybe you need to stop talking down to people and realize that he may not even meant it in the way I see you keep jumping on people for? To some people, Nintendo not showing a conference where they present new games and info is almost the same as them bowing out.
Not true. They're still showing off games in a streamed video (like always) and they're still showing games on the floor.
I guarantee you, if they announce something, we'll all still hear about it.
Let's give a hypothetical: What if Nintendo announces during the direct that they have gained exclusive rights to the Grand Theft Auto franchise? You think the press is just going to ignore it because they weren't in a big room with a ton of people and glaring lights?
timetokill
Banned
The general public doesn't watch any of them. Only gamers watch these fucking things.
I don't get why this is so hard for people.
Nintendo feels that the one-size-fits-all model of conferences doesn't work, so they're doing tailored "conferences" for each different audience.
This is only a bad thing for people who are in the business of "E3 as sport" or "console warz."
Ok Nintendo fans and GAF, still very few people. Just look at the views on youtube.
Dreams-Visions
Member
He's right.
They really need to show off some big titles in a big way in order to get the broader gaming audience talking positively about Nintendo. They certainly have the IP's to generate the kind of mindshare we're talking about if shown off the right way.
Instead it sounds like all we're going to get is some off-screen videos of people at the booth and game trailers released on Youtube during the conference.'
I'm sorry, but that's not good enough to arrest attention away from Sony and Microsoft. Feels like some cuckold shit, for lack of better words. Accepting a backseat instead of attempting to do battle as a fellow God of the Arena.
They really need to show off some big titles in a big way in order to get the broader gaming audience talking positively about Nintendo. They certainly have the IP's to generate the kind of mindshare we're talking about if shown off the right way.
Instead it sounds like all we're going to get is some off-screen videos of people at the booth and game trailers released on Youtube during the conference.'
I'm sorry, but that's not good enough to arrest attention away from Sony and Microsoft. Feels like some cuckold shit, for lack of better words. Accepting a backseat instead of attempting to do battle as a fellow God of the Arena.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Playable games, you know, the best way to get a true impression of the new titles.
They are giving the press and whoever is there a chance to play their games.
Escape Goat
Member
Who does Sessler work for now? Is this his own video cast or does he work for a magazine and gets paid for it?
I think he gets it just fine, in the past E3 live conferences made sense, in the modern world of twitter, facebook and youtube not so much.
I guess Sessler thinks he'll probably won't be invited to the press event so he needs to rant. And he is far from being spot on, the audience that watch a live conference and the one that watches the Directs is basically the same.
More people watch Nintendo E3 announcements online versus in person. Not doing it in a theatre means fuck-all.
comedy bomb
Banned
I guess I don't really see the issue. Nintendo is still at E3, journalists will still get their hands-on time and exclusives, and the mainstream will still pick up on any big announcements Nintendo makes in the coming months.
Not having a one hour presentation filled with fluff and crappy audience reactions isn't that important. The games press is just mad they aren't getting pampered like they usually do.
Not having a one hour presentation filled with fluff and crappy audience reactions isn't that important. The games press is just mad they aren't getting pampered like they usually do.
grimshawish
Banned
Random off thought: Sony were very clever in not showing the PS4 as when they do at E3 it'll have mainstream coverage. MS if they show everything earlier - less so. Smart.
Bizzare statement; evidently untrue.
Conference VS Conference VS Conference is all a small bubble of crap. Its the stuff on the side that matters; increasingly third party conferences but also the footage and gameplay shown.
Bizzare statement; evidently untrue.
Conference VS Conference VS Conference is all a small bubble of crap. Its the stuff on the side that matters; increasingly third party conferences but also the footage and gameplay shown.
flyinpiranha
Member
It's not the ONLY way, but it's a big one. Wired, Gizmodo, and other not-necessarily-gaming-but-tech sites usually cover it and they don't with Nintendo Directs (that I see).
The problem here is that even IF this isn't a mistake, not having a conference will most likely outshine the information they present in their closed door presentations, mainly because of no press.
I don't get it. If I had TWO GIGANTIC billion dollar companies going head to head with me this holiday I would be doing a massive push for recognition and awareness. This just seems like the opposite.
I enjoy Nintendo Directs, in fact the 3DS is my most played system for a couple months ... but it's not what gets the word out. If your restaurant is not performing, you don't place coupons in the receipts of patrons already going there.
Do people not read the news or something? Nintendo isn't "bowing out at E3" They will have a Nintendo Direct instead of a Nintendo E3 Conference, they will have conferences for the press and business partners, and their demos will be at E3.
Seriously how many times do we have to say that Nintendo Will be at E3 before people finally get it?
metalslimer
Member
3 million people own a WiiU. Achieving that many views doesnt tell me only Nintendo fans are watching these things.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Oh come on. What about people on GAF that have similar opinions?
I agree with some stuff but mostly disagree
saying that the audience who watches Nintendo Direct is different than those who watch E3..
I mean, sure, but fact is the new outlets pick up everything that's up on Nintendo Direct anyway
this idea that random people not interested in Nintendo stuff will watch the Nintendo E3 conference or something is just weird
the major non-games news outlets will give 100% attention to the new consoles. Gaming sites will pick up every announcement made anywhere anyway, so people WILL know about Nintendo's new stuff
saying that the audience who watches Nintendo Direct is different than those who watch E3..
I mean, sure, but fact is the new outlets pick up everything that's up on Nintendo Direct anyway
this idea that random people not interested in Nintendo stuff will watch the Nintendo E3 conference or something is just weird
the major non-games news outlets will give 100% attention to the new consoles. Gaming sites will pick up every announcement made anywhere anyway, so people WILL know about Nintendo's new stuff
Zombie James
Banned
So five years ago showing a Wii on Oprah or Ellen or whoever were big mainstream wins, but now showing a dedicated 90 minute presentation on live television doesn't matter? Seriously?
metalslimer
Member
Ok, but people are arguing E3 doesn't matter in the end. So why even bother with these journalists?
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Broader audience reads USA Today and other main stream media, so they will be reading about E3 in the main stream media which covers E3.
decoyplatypus
Member
Because it is still valuable to have your games on the show floor?
Isn't it possible that the specific value of a live press conference no longer outweighs the costs (when you can distribute the same information in a much more controlled and targeted manner through NDs and closed-door press events), but other aspects of E3 remain a good investment?
People want the narrative in their heads (aka... "Nintendo is going third party" or "Nintendo will scuttle Wii U") to be the real narrative. That's why they don't read the actual news.
Yes there will be a blurb for 10 seconds about "the next Microsoft 360" and "Sony's new "PS4" and then that's it. This is all overreaction for nothing. for people NOT at the event, nothing has changed, you'll still get your videos, announcements, and information, just not stupid, time wasting skits going on for 10 minutes, or trying to watch some awkward celeb play Mario Next or whatever.
Further proof: Iwata just mentioning that they're not doing a conference in an investors meeting that took place in Japan at nearly 11:00PM EST last night has already caused many journalists, fans, and detractors to start up numerous discussions about it.
Who cares about the venue: it's the facts that matter. If Nintendo brings the heat, it'll stick, regardless of where they're saying it. That's how today's press coverage works. And if they suck ass, we'll hear about that too.
Who cares about the venue: it's the facts that matter. If Nintendo brings the heat, it'll stick, regardless of where they're saying it. That's how today's press coverage works. And if they suck ass, we'll hear about that too.
The recent Pokemon X/Y announcement got as much publicity as any E3 announcement. I remember it being the top trending item on twitter, seeing it on TV, seeing it on the front page of Yahoo, etc... Isn't that proof that the right announcement can have the same effect as a live E3 press conference?
krypt0nian
Banned
Simple. But echo chamber is a better plan, Iwata. *thumbsup*
Rollo Lawson
Banned
People want software and they're showing software...I don't get why everybody's acting like old fogeys panicking over a small bit of change
Escape Goat
Member
Cool. Its like a cooler G4TV. I stopped going once they fired everyone
Fuck them. Sessler was cool. I miss Morgan and Cheat lady. If it is so important, why did Sony announce the PS4 before E3. Why is Microsoft having an event just weeks before E3 to announce their new hardware? Last year Nintendo waited until after E3 to announce the 3DSXL during a Nintendo Direct.
If E3 is as important as it once was, why do all of the big 3 have their own event for their biggest announcements?
They're not arguing that E3 doesn't matter, they're arguing that doing presentations live doesn't hold much value when most people just stream it anyway.
Jesus Carbomb
From Water into Guinness
Nintendo being party poopers.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
It's my understanding that they are still also doing the press conference, just no new announcements (everything will be known beforehand).
Either way it's a bad argument. Skipping TGS doesn't seem to have ever hurt them.
So I'm guessing you have the numbers for how many people have watched Nintendo's E3 press conferences on TV compared to online Directs right? Please.
metalslimer
Member
But they are doing live presentations to journalists and retailers. Hell they even rented out the nokia theatre again so the costs are the same.
In person is TV? Oic
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Well, I don't agree that it doesn't matter at all.
If games would be shown on video in Directs and there would be no playable demos for the press to give their impressions to us, it would suck a bit.
Thankfully, that's not the case as Miyamoto said even before all this that Directs will be utilized to announce games and events like E3 would be used to let people experience the games.
Escape Goat
Member
People want Nintendo to succeed. Hiding your games for people already interested in Nintendo isn't advancing Nintendo's presence. According to Sessler, Wii did well because it reached non core gamers. Nintendo needs to parade the shit out of the Wii U and give reasons for people to be excited.