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*SHOCKING* PS4 to outsell Xbox One at launch, predicts Pachter
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Majmun
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MS better start creating new dev teams asap then. Sony already had a lot of internal teams, that's why they could pump out game after game. MS doesn't have that luxury.
Prince Vultan
Banned
How? These two consoles are going to spend the rest of the year at least sold out. All November NPD will show who shipped more stock into the US that month (Almost certainly MS, as they're launching in less than half as many countries as Sony, so you'd imagine they'd HAVE to have more stock for the only market they seem to care about).
Anyone thinking November NPD is going to be the most telling of this launch is kidding themselves.
Always-honest
Banned
They really fucked up with voice recognition / commands imo. The Xbox-one is delayed in a lot of countries because of this.
It will do fine in countries where they actually like Hand-egg.
It will do fine in countries where they actually like Hand-egg.
zenosparadox
Member
I was at a Gamestop today and I overheard an employee say, "People are pre-ordering the PS4 significantly more than the Xbox 1." Anecdotal evidence and all that.
Diprosalic
Banned
they also lost one of the only good ones and are stuck with 343i now.
Haha i feel you, I have to fight the urge to not think the same thing.
Mysteriously, Sony will reverse their policy on stating sales figures.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Ummm... derrr? Isn't it a bit obvious by now?
It certainly helped Kinect.
Although marketing spend will probably be pretty irrelevant this year because the issue both Sony and Microsoft have isn't with convincing people to buy their new products but rather how many units they can manufacture in time for Christmas.
But in the slightly longer term once all the day oners own a console I can see Microsoft start to pull ahead due to superior marketing.
McHuj
Member
I think March-September of next year for both consoles are very important. Even January anf maybe February should carry some launch momentum, but that should really slow in the spring. If there's a console that dips below 60-80k in NPD in those months, I think they are in trouble and at $499 I think that's a possibility for Xbox.
Way to romanticize me sitting in a spinning chair in front of a TV and two tower speakers.
This is the most true part. I honestly believe Uncharted 2 would have came out regardless of if Sony was floundering or striving. They just have so many studios pumping out games year after year. MS could keep paying out money for exclusives but, I don't know how long that'll last.
Convincing folks to spend $500 on a dedicated gaming console is an issue and it's one that marketing can't fix.
Sword Of Doom
Member
More countries doesn't automatically mean a significant amount of sales. Some markets are very small
Phire Phox
Banned
Because their will be less stock if Xbone.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Well actually, I've always thought that the advantages of not release sales figures to NPD, is that you can just create the image that literally everything you do creates a bazillion sales and let the rest of the world run with it because nobody can prove otherwise.
One of the advantages if digital distribution at the moment.
I'm sure people would love to shout about how Origin is failing and how nobody is buying Battlefield on PC because its not on Steam etc, but there's literally no way for them to know what the sales are like because they aren't reported anywhere.
Sword Of Doom
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However, MS has not been releasing many exclusives for the 360 while Sony has been releasing more than ever for the PS3. Those Sony studios have been tied up with PS3 games. That's why I think by MS not releasing games for the 360, they have an edge the first year until Sony studios start focusing on next gen.
Not only are they not equipped at the moment, they have lack the support of 3 of the forces behind the 360's success. Bungie, Cliffy B, and peter molyneux. Rare has been gutted, and the rumors from CBOAT speak of many of the talented people having moved on because of their dis-interest in kinect development. They are in a bad situation to push out first party games.
He's really getting arsey. I think he needs to start ignoring some of the more out there comments he sees because he's obviously taking them to heart, and its making his show just about him looking down his nose at the people posting questions.
Or better still, just stop coming in to work so early to film Ask Pach and concentrate on your regular job. He'll be happier.
Or better still, just stop coming in to work so early to film Ask Pach and concentrate on your regular job. He'll be happier.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I think it's a foregone conclusion that XB1 will lose to PS4 (across the board) in November and probably through Christmas, through virtue of supply alone. I'm really curious to see which way the mass market decides come next year. Especially during the Super Bowl, which MS will probably have an Xbox ad for. (Supposedly it's only an average of $3.5M for a 30 second ad, which is a great deal given the exposure it provides). My question is will Sony see the importance of the Super Bowl and pony up the cash for that?
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Poor Sony.
Can't outsell Microsoft after all the negative press and 180's.
Can't outsell Microsoft after all the negative press and 180's.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
I think a lot also rides on what people will do with their consoles when not playing games (especially after the launch hype) and what opportunities (if any) they will have to interact with them on a general/ongoing basis, rather than a periodic one.
MS is looking to have their console be turned on and used regardless of what the television is being used for at any given time.
The amount of visibility that usage scenario could provide to [insert company with a product] would be a mouth watering prospect and not just for game developers.
But that's if the gamble actually pays off.
maplelord93
Banned
sorry sony
The Maverick
Member
The NPD threads after February are going to be a sight to see. Grab your swords, my brothers. War will soon be upon us.
On a serious note, I'm not believing that Microsoft will have enough stock to even compete with Sony in the numbers game if they tried. It's when the launch hype dies down that things get interesting. Let's see how important 100 dollars really is.
On a serious note, I'm not believing that Microsoft will have enough stock to even compete with Sony in the numbers game if they tried. It's when the launch hype dies down that things get interesting. Let's see how important 100 dollars really is.
Mobius and pet octopus
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A news article about a pach video... slow news day?
10101
Gold Member
He doesn't get paid for the GT gig lol.
Shocking news indeed, I nearly choked on a cookie!! Who would have thunk it? Hehe
Syphon Filter
Member
Yea around then is when it will be interesting. Not really much this fall.
BlazingRain
Banned
lol if you actually think this.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Doesn't matter, will MS announce they are the second best selling next gen system for one month?
The Faceless Master
Member
damn, i need to make #theswitch
No.
EricDiesel
Member
More like Michael Nostradamus. Quite the bold prediction.
googleplex
Member
One month? They'll be the second best selling Next gen system for the rest of the generation.
What does he mean by this?
That's what they were for most of this generation too..
This is hilarious.
The Middle East got a December launch, too.
http://m.joystiq.com/2013/09/27/ps4-travels-to-the-middle-east-on-december-13/
statham
Member
until wait for it...... Titanfall.
mangochutney
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I'm quite certain the exact job of marketing is to convince you of just that.