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Wrong, Steambox wins!
In the long run it already did.
Wrong, Steambox wins!
As for WW, I'm expecting they'll become competitive when they drop the price. Now, personally I'm expecting that pricecut to be when Titanfall launches or if not, then in time for Halo.
I predict the Xbone to follow a similar faith like the WiiU. Yesterday I was desperately trying to get a copy of GTA5 locally and I shit you not, no store had a copy for PS3 but all of them had the 360 version. I was stunned. I thought the Xbox was a much stronger brand.
Sony have planned out thier launch a lot better then MS so obviously they'll win, not by much though. As for the entire generation, I'd say they'll both end selling roughly the same amount.
No shit. Xbox One releases in like 5 countries, while PS4 releases everywhere.
Xbox one can win this generation quite easily if it does one thing.
Do some political maneuvering and get the Chinese government to only allow it's console to be sold in China.
Bring up the long held resentment between Japan and China if need be.
If they were to do this they would immediately win the gen.
HAHAHAHA
Oh man.
Game consoles havent been sold in China for 13 years.
They are currently in talks with console manufacturers to possibly start to sell them.
That is 1.3 billion potential customers.
Xbox one can win this generation quite easily if it does one thing.
Do some political maneuvering and get the Chinese government to only allow it's console to be sold in China.
Bring up the long held resentment between Japan and China if need be.
If they were to do this they would immediately win the gen.
Oh wait your serious. I thought you were joking Child
Not quite sure why everyone is bringing up the whole 'brand loyalty in certain territories' thing - it definitely didn't help either Sony with the PS3 from the PS2 or Nintendo with the WiiU from the Wii. This whole idea that large markets as an entirety purchase based on previous accolades is a silly myth that has hardly ever been proven right.
The only places where you can predict that sort of thing for certain are basically places where rival consoles aren't being sold at all or have a very limited market in that territory. So it won't matter if it's been 'US is Microsoft land' or 'Europe is Sony land' this generation, because that shit won't mean a thing when it comes to the average consumer with next generation coming up on the horizon - they'll buy what they want to buy.
Heh no joke.
If I was a MS executive right now I would be presenting this at the next meeting.
Operation ps4 cockblock.
China is so full of corruption that such a plan is very feasible.
Game consoles havent been sold in China for 13 years.
They are currently in talks with console manufacturers to possibly start to sell them.
That is 1.3 billion potential customers.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
I'm sure the average chinese farmer living hand to mouth will be swayed to part with a lifetimes worth of earnings so he can play titanfall.
Heh no joke.
If I was a MS executive right now I would be presenting this at the next meeting.
Operation ps4 cockblock.
China is so full of corruption that such a plan is very feasible.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
WTF ?
You do know China has a huge and increasing middle class right ?
China is flowing in money , we aren't in the 1950s anymore man.
China has become a global power and an insanely huge market.
GM sells more cars in China each month not the US.
Heh no joke.
If I was a MS executive right now I would be presenting this at the next meeting.
Operation ps4 cockblock.
China is so full of corruption that such a plan is very feasible.
There will be no price cut in 2014 unless the Xbone is tanking which I sincerely doubt. The Xbone will sell rather competitively in the US but abroad I am willing to bet they take a beating in the months following launch.
Silly, but using common sense coming out of the end of this generation as well as seeing how preorders are right now, we can start formulating a good idea of how each console is going to sell. PS4 being $100 cheaper than the Xbone only makes that calculating easier.
I know and I agree with you - I'm just saying this whole 'brand loyalty' thing isn't and won't be part of the grand scheme of things, only ever amounting to a minuscule part of the overall sales for both consoles. The argument 'well they did better in this region this generation so will do better there next generation' is stupid, because it ignores everything else about the consoles and the perceived value they have to the consumers.
Microsoft are not stupid.
Yep.It's going to be boring and predictable. January NPD is where the fun starts if you're interested in that kind of stuff.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
Game consoles havent been sold in China for 13 years.
They are currently in talks with console manufacturers to possibly start to sell them.
That is 1.3 billion potential customers.
I'd say PS4 is going to be more dominant than that by a long way.
US: I don't know, maybe your right, I'd say perhaps 50:50
UK: 60:40 minimum to Sony from my Experience and Pre order numbers we have and looking at charts and the general consensus.
rest of the world: I wouldn't even hazard a guess, this generation PS destroyed XB outside of US+UK and it's going to be worse next gen. We have reports of 4:1 in places like Holland and I imagine countries like Japan could reach 10:1.
and India has 1.2 billon people. Oh wait...Game consoles havent been sold in China for 13 years.
They are currently in talks with console manufacturers to possibly start to sell them.
That is 1.3 billion potential customers.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
Unless the Xbox One has a huge system seller (might be Titanfall) or I am really wrong I don't see it winning anywhere really.
Microsoft could replace Kinect with Titanfall and drop the price to $349 around E3 next year. I wouldn't count them out just yet.
Microsoft are not stupid.
You won´t forgive MS for not releasing in Norway are you hehe. I understand.
Microsoft could replace Kinect with Titanfall and drop the price to $349 around E3 next year. I wouldn't count them out just yet.
WTF ?
You do know China has a huge and increasing middle class right ?
China is flowing in money , we aren't in the 1950s anymore man.
China has become a global power and an insanely huge market.
GM sells more cars in China each month not the US.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
I think MS knows this which is why they are heavily playing the only card they can. They are positioning the XB1 as a more casual friendly, fantasy football helper, Skype endpoint, super TV guide, Kinect gaming device. If they can capture the imagination of the more casual audience upfront, then they could negate Sony's advantage. The problem for MS is that even with its upgrade, the Kinect is not the "new shiny" anymore, and people can already get those other features on their tablet or phone.
I'm fairly confident that's what they'll do. Thier aim with the price as I've said is to exploit the high demand that always comes at a new hardware launch. They know that being $100 more expensive then the competition isn't something that can be sustained.
So I do expect a price cut in May/June to coincide with Titanfall.
US
PS4 45 vs XB1 55
UK
50/50
rest of world
PS4 60 vs XB1 40
If all the above does happen , that would be a huge victory for sony.
Even with all its issues PS3 has outpaced 360 globally this gen. So why PS4 -which is a far more competitive device in all respects- would do less well comparitively over the next cycle seems extremely unlikely to me.
Any slip in demand/marketshare for MS in its core NA and UK markets and they are fighting an uphill battle even disregarding the emerging markets which Sony has a far better track record for pioneering than MS do.
Totally agree and slightly jealous you said in a few lines what it took me paragraphs to say earlier.
The XB1 is launching without any of the advantages 360 had and this is after a bad reveal and a lot of hostility in the market. That's going to make a huge difference vs last gen when Sony still caught up.
And for good reason. No sport is as competitive as gaming. No piece of literature is as throught provoking or well written. The best aspects of music and film are integrated and actually elevated in the gaming medium. Standard controller games are the last non-VR entertainment bastion. The final frontier.
Read a book.And for good reason. No sport is as competitive as gaming. No piece of literature is as throught provoking or well written. The best aspects of music and film are integrated and actually elevated in the gaming medium. Standard controller games are the last non-VR entertainment bastion. The final frontier.