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They would make sure to never advertise or talk about it.
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Should Naughty Dog buy themselves back from Sony?
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They would make sure to never advertise or talk about it.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Pretty relative freedom to do what games they want, help influenced worldwide tech across Sony's gaming studios, big budgets and marketing, seems pretty good deal with Sony.
Sony would probably do all they can to keep pleasing them, straight to handjobs for all if they need be.
Sony would probably do all they can to keep pleasing them, straight to handjobs for all if they need be.
lastflowers
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I enjoyed Conkers Bad Fur Day more than any Naughty Dog game. That being said, I've mostly played their PS3 titles--and never could get into jak/daxter
ProfessorMoran
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While we're at it, let's discuss why Turn10 should buy themselves back from MS, and Rare, and 343i... yeah.
dragonflys545
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MS understands Bungie then... No new IP's from them last or this gen while they were with MS.
SolidSnakex
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The way it's been described is that they started kicking around ideas for Jak and couldn't come to a conclusion. Sony then apparently told them to make a new IP and then got out of the way. That's how TLoU came to be.
Can Crusher
Banned
Naughty Dogs - 3 different IPs in two generations - great working relationship with Sony. Also, the founders of Naughty Dog have long left.
On the other hand, Bungie only worked one 1 franchise in two generations and seemed to have a poor relationship with MS with a big culture clash. Their founders were there, they wanted to work on new IP's and MS was sucker enough to let the Bungie name leave.
They don't leave because they have no reason to leave, and there's no feasible scenario in which it even happens (Naughty Dog buying itself from Sony).
On the other hand, Bungie only worked one 1 franchise in two generations and seemed to have a poor relationship with MS with a big culture clash. Their founders were there, they wanted to work on new IP's and MS was sucker enough to let the Bungie name leave.
They don't leave because they have no reason to leave, and there's no feasible scenario in which it even happens (Naughty Dog buying itself from Sony).
LiveFromKyoto
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And who wouldn't want to work with Activision? Always a great time!
Actually the kind of stuff I heard about bioware in the latest A life well wasted podcast sounded pretty damn sweet. Guys live like kings.
Gaiaknight
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This is like asking why shouldnt retro leave nintendo.....
famousmortimer
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This presupposes that Sony would sell them (to themselves). They wouldn't. Why would they?
I will not hear any of this. Viva Pinata...Viva fuck'en Pinata.
graywolf323
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uh why would they? Sony is giving them free reign and a lot of money
Bungie bought themselves back because they didn't want to work on Halo anymore and Microsoft only wanted them to do Halo
Bungie bought themselves back because they didn't want to work on Halo anymore and Microsoft only wanted them to do Halo
CambriaRising
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Why would they? Sony lets them do whatever they want.
They did that with the first uncharted and looked what happened with uncharted 2.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Why no GAF buy ND from Srony?!
ProfessorMoran
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Destiny better becomes a massive success or Activision will definitely kick them to the curb.
starwarsfan541
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Better question Sony financially implodes after PS4 sales lack after first few months, then what happens?
Rare's creative talent has left the company years ago. Microsoft is actually being pretty generous for not having shut them down by now.
The closest thing to a spiritual successor to classic Rare right now is Retro Studios, which has hired some of its former talent for the new Donkey Kong Country games.
Devilgunman
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OP's real intention is "Should ND games go multi-platform?"
Am' right?
Am' right?
Arne get here and explain why ND wont go solo!
True but it's not like they are the same studio they were 10 years ago. They really don't need Sony to guide them anymore. I'm sure ND has a good relationship with them but they can still keep that relationship when they go indie.
I feel they pretty much have done all they can within Sony, reached the pinnacle. And maybe the next step is a bigger audience, reaching more people which they can't do being tied down to PlayStation.
ShroudOfFate
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I think you're on to something here. Let's do a kickstarter to buy Naughty Dog.
graywolf323
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Nintendo actually owns Game Freak? pretty sure they are a private company and truly second-party
EAD I think was explicitly formed by Nintendo so while not impossible it'd certainly be a larger hurdle than for an acquired third party I'd imagine, and there seems to actually be an interesting story with HAL where they exist now BECAUSE they were bailed out in exchange for becoming Nintendo exclusive. Though I think they made a Lolo game on Windows in the late 90s anyway.
Yeah, no. Sorry OP.
Sony lets ND do what they want at the very appealing price of inherently taking on the risk as their owners. If they leave, they give that up.
It's just not worth it.
I'm also not convinced ATVI is pushing Destiny that hard. I know Bungie are themselves, but it doesn't seem like ATVI is doing much of anything beyond footing the bill. Maybe that's fine. It's probably how Bungie wants it.
I'll tell you this though: Destiny looks cool as hell, but I could see it going either way in terms of being a huge success or a massive disappointment. I'd be scared silly if I was at Bungie. I wouldn't be at ND.
Sony lets ND do what they want at the very appealing price of inherently taking on the risk as their owners. If they leave, they give that up.
It's just not worth it.
I'm also not convinced ATVI is pushing Destiny that hard. I know Bungie are themselves, but it doesn't seem like ATVI is doing much of anything beyond footing the bill. Maybe that's fine. It's probably how Bungie wants it.
I'll tell you this though: Destiny looks cool as hell, but I could see it going either way in terms of being a huge success or a massive disappointment. I'd be scared silly if I was at Bungie. I wouldn't be at ND.
googleplex
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Nintendo
Yeah...No.
But how will they make Kinect Sports 42??
ProfessorMoran
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What WOULD Sony do with themselves after the PS4 sales fucking explodes at launch? OMFG.
starwarsfan541
Banned
I wish to god it was closed, so a reputable company (Nintendo or anyone not Microsoft, Sony or Gearbox) could buy the name and some ips and start a new studio with some of the old staff.
Naughty Dog is Sony's golden goose. They'd be hard pressed to let them go.
And I think one of the things Naughty Dog loves about a closed platform is getting to exploit it so thoroughly. They've always been about getting the most out of a platform that they can. Expanding to other platforms would stretch them thin.
And I think one of the things Naughty Dog loves about a closed platform is getting to exploit it so thoroughly. They've always been about getting the most out of a platform that they can. Expanding to other platforms would stretch them thin.
dragonflys545
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That's like wishful thinking right there... I have a feeling PS4 will explode in terms of sales.
SolidSnakex
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You seem to really underestimate how much freedom means to them and completely overestimate how much freedom would be given to them if they actually did leave Sony. You bring up Bungie but they're currently locked into a 10 year contract with Activision for Destiny. How does that sound desirable?
The_Hitcher89
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Out of interest, why didn't MS let Bungie make a new IP and form 343 Studios to hand Halo to?
Why were the two exlusive?
Why were the two exlusive?
Colonel Nasty
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This one never happen but people citing creative reasons are dumb. Its not like ND are making art house games. That made a third person shooter and a stealth zombie game. David Cage/thatgamecompany they are not.
gundamkyoukai
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Does the OP really think any body would allow ND to make TLOU at this point in time with what i sure is a huge budget .
Plus being on one system allows ND not to worry about a fair amount of stuff and push as far as they can .
Plus being on one system allows ND not to worry about a fair amount of stuff and push as far as they can .
WrenchNinja
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This isn't very subtle.
I don't see any obvious harmonic issues between the two.
1.) Naughty Dog seems fine with all of Sony's market oriented decisions from the realism switch to the online focus to 3D support to having other studios make spin-offs with their brands.
2.) Sony seems fine with Naughty Dog's general creative direction and artistic goals along with growing the studio to handle both existing and new IPs, along with giving them sufficient time to perform generational switches.
Generally you only see a rift between a developer and publisher when there's some kind of major financial and/or creative rift that they can't overcome, but both of them seem to be on the same page here.
1.) Naughty Dog seems fine with all of Sony's market oriented decisions from the realism switch to the online focus to 3D support to having other studios make spin-offs with their brands.
2.) Sony seems fine with Naughty Dog's general creative direction and artistic goals along with growing the studio to handle both existing and new IPs, along with giving them sufficient time to perform generational switches.
Generally you only see a rift between a developer and publisher when there's some kind of major financial and/or creative rift that they can't overcome, but both of them seem to be on the same page here.
Wha-- no.
noooooooo.
You found your way to GAF?
Jesus, getting really bad memories from gametrailers forums.
Yea...no. I don't think anything Naughty Dog has done has been as influential as Golden Eye or loved as Perfect Dark.
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