Broder Salsa
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legacyzero said:
They do while completely ignoring other evidence. Agree with a lot of what they say but they just come off as assholes most of the time when trying to be funny.
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Silent Hill 3 graphics...I said WOW!
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They do while completely ignoring other evidence. Agree with a lot of what they say but they just come off as assholes most of the time when trying to be funny.
legacyzero
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Lime said:
I wont argue with that. I would say that's their method, and it can be entertaining. But I understand what you're saying.
Their execution and their validity are two separate things.
BatmanBatmanBatman said:
They clearly stated what types of "evidence" they wouldn't be using, and why, since the very beginning . Seems to make sense why, at least to me.
Typographenia
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Yeah, except for when they blatantly pick and choose their sources. I can't recall which it was specifically, but I remember not long ago they cited a source they claimed they wouldn't use at the start of the Silent Hill experience because of inconsistency. (edit: I think it might have been the sh3 guidebook)legacyzero said:
Also, they tend to be really biased with their presentation, information they use, and just overall really hypocritical. They do a really great job with production and it's easy to see they really care about the franchise, but their presence only hurts the series more than helps, in my opinion.
Anyways, back to the subject at hand.
You must have forgotten Vincent and Douglas, then. They had some pretty flat or just bad deliveries more often than not.BatmanBatmanBatman said:
PICTURE TIME!
Giant Heather image
Giant Heather image 2
Giant Douglas image
Giant Claudia image
I have more, if anyone wants me to keep posting.
legacyzero
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Easy_D said:
I agree with that. that's a bit much.
Edit: looking at those pics, I should have left the film grain on...
googoomuck22
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silent hill 3 sure is a good looking game, shame it's not really a good game.
it was always gonna be hard following on from silent hill 2
it was always gonna be hard following on from silent hill 2
Never have I ever been so afraid (from a video game) as I was the time my buddy and I hit the mirror room in SH3.... sheeeeesh
I couldn't wait to get out of that fuckin room.
I'll be buying a PS3 JUST for SH and ICO/Colossus collections.... and then I'll get to try out the Siren series.
I couldn't wait to get out of that fuckin room.
I'll be buying a PS3 JUST for SH and ICO/Colossus collections.... and then I'll get to try out the Siren series.
And they just made their rant about the HD collection completely pointless. "Baww new voices! New models! New motion caps! This is horrible!!!"legacyzero said:
Then they talk about the PC releases, saying the collection isn't necessary. Well there you have it, you babies. Just play the PC versions then.
And what do they even mean with "HD is a lie anyway"?
However, I'm all for supporting Guy and any other voice talent that has worked with Konami and gotten screwed over but their senseless whining is just annoying.
Now I realise the great irony in my post, whining about whining. If they cut their snarky attitude out and removed dumb whining and just kept it to facts like reasons why voice will be changed, etc, it would be so much better.
This looks like incoherent rantings of an annoyed old man or something, :lol
Edit: And them acting as if SH2 had the greatest voice acting ever. It's not bad but it's not exactly..great.
Typographenia said:If the game were to be released as it is in the present day, with some animation fixes, it would still look impressive.
That team was so small, I still can't believe they pulled that kind of power out of the ps2.
It's been a long while since I scanned and created the picture.
Here is a big one (the original that I'd created long time ago).
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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Typographenia said:If the game were to be released as it is in the present day, with some animation fixes, it would still look impressive.
That team was so small, I still can't believe they pulled that kind of power out of the ps2.
Blast it gentlemen, don't open old wounds anew.
Typographenia
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The game will only run at 720p (my one real upset), and they say at the bottom in captions that HD is actually 1080p or higher.Easy_D said:
Wow, maskrider, I never would have guessed that originated from a fellow member!
I have that large one saved in my image folder, but I couldn't bother to track it down; just googled it instead. Thanks for posting the superior version, though!
According to the team, they were responsible for Heather turning out how she did. Originally, the design for Heather was much more conservative, but the female staff pushes to make her a little more "sexier" (I believe is what they said). I'm really glad they made them change her up more, because I think she has an instantly recognizable look about her.Strife91 said:
Typographenia
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You also need to take into account that they reused a lot of assets from SH2 and it's a fairly small game. I'm not going to say it still doesn't outshine recent titles in many regards, but let's keep it a little in perspective, haha.Terak said:
Typographenia said:That team was so small, I still can't believe they pulled that kind of power out of the ps2.
lol, that's why such games are made by indies only nowadays.
but where are texture artists??? animators? someone is missing, that's for sure.
Lord Error
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You cannot disable trophy notification on PS3. Amazing, I know. And yes, it would suck with a game like this as it will suck in Ico and SotC remake. At least there's kind of a way around it, like it was done in Heavy Rain.Easy_D said:
Also, for your earlier post - I'm pretty sure texture resolution is actually identical in PC version. The textures were crazy to begin with it's just that sometimes you can see that better thanks to high resolution you can have it running on PC. Pretty sure SH2 was kinda crap on PC btw, I remember shadows were nowhere as good as on PS2.
Plasma will do!Oni Jazar said:
Futurevoid
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Are you using the FOV hack tool to correct the FOV in 1080p? I can't seem to get it working in Windows 7. What am I doing wrong?
EDIT: ...and nevermind. As soon as I posted, I got it working at 1080p. Nice!
EDIT: ...and nevermind. As soon as I posted, I got it working at 1080p. Nice!
Angry Fork
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I wish I was rich so I could buy the SH IP and convince the original Team Silent team to come back together and make an exclusive PC Silent Hill that takes advantage of the best hardware. It would be a dream come true.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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The PS2 version is still impressive even after so much time has past. The PC version is immortal. I can't believe how amazing that port was and it's a bloody shame Konami hasn't put it or SH2 on Steam or any other DD service.
SolidSnakex
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subversus said:
It's not the entire team. It's just some of the major players on it.
Shadow of the BEAST
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I remember reading psm or something that the first games fmv was done by one dude alone.
These are extremely talented people. Sadly they are probably working on some shitty handheld game today.
Why arent western companies investing in japanese talent. They have some of the most techically skilled people around, and they all have wages a step above eastern europe. And its all going to waste because of shitty management and hardware choices.
These are extremely talented people. Sadly they are probably working on some shitty handheld game today.
Why arent western companies investing in japanese talent. They have some of the most techically skilled people around, and they all have wages a step above eastern europe. And its all going to waste because of shitty management and hardware choices.
Broder Salsa
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SolidSnakex said:
Yeah you are right.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/silent-hill-3/credits
Shadow of the BEAST said:
Most of them still works with Konami (Kojima productions, the PES team and more) and a few has moved on to other studios like Akira.
Neuromancer
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This game also has one of the most impactful character deaths I've ever seen:
I'm not ashamed to say, I get sad just thinking about it.
Harry. =(
I'm not ashamed to say, I get sad just thinking about it.
It's probably because of the women on the team. I would sure as hell be motivated.Typographenia said:If the game were to be released as it is in the present day, with some animation fixes, it would still look impressive.
That team was so small, I still can't believe they pulled that kind of power out of the ps2.
Especially Motomi. And she's a model designer for Silent Hill, so she's likely a total freak.
Chinese Electric Batman
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I didn't.
How About No
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Typographenia said:
You should!
Yes you did. Everyone did.
SolidSnakex
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BatmanBatmanBatman said:
Magicpaint
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Even Silent Hill 2 still looks so damn good. I just don't know how those guys pulled that shit off. So damn impressive.
Heart of Black
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LOL at Akira Yamaoka's hair. I could barely recognize him in that picture.
Broder Salsa
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Typographenia
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Ask and you will receive!How About No said:
Linked due to size
Claudia image 2
Heather image 3
Heather image 4
^^
These are all from the SH3 press kit, by the way.
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Face collection
Faces 1
Faces 2
Faces 3
Faces 4
Faces 5
Faces 6
Faces 7
Faces 8
Faces 9
^^
These are from a collection called "z-o-g." I believe it was the user's name.
Broder Salsa
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Mooreberg said:
Linked to it earlier in the thread but a lot went to Kojima productions. Engine programmer seems to also still be working with metal gear.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/silent-hill-3/credits
Hank Scorpio
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Is SH2 available on PC, anymore?
I never played it but had SH3 for PS2 and read the backstory for SH1 and SH2.
Would love to try 2 on my laptop. Should be able to run it like in those screenies.
I never played it but had SH3 for PS2 and read the backstory for SH1 and SH2.
Would love to try 2 on my laptop. Should be able to run it like in those screenies.
Typographenia
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You'll have to track down a copy somewhere. It's not available on any service like Steam or D2D yet. I got my copy on half.com for $50 about three years ago, and it still ran like a dream.Hank Scorpio said:
Too bad you read up on it already. Games like these are much better going in not knowing.
Valjean Lafitte
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So why is that Western devs nowadays can't seem to match the character modeling prowess that was on show 8 years ago in Silent Hill 3?
Silent Hill: Homecoming: Looks like ass.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories: Looks like ass
Silent Hill: Downpour: So far, it looks like ass
It's not just Konami, but it seems to me that nearly all American and European devs
totally suck at making appeal 3D models of human characters. The characters are never as visually appealing as they are intended to be, and the lip-syncing of the characters--even of games that were written in English--is usually atrocious.
Meanwhile, Remedy spent years developing Alan Wake, and it's as ugly as sin. What hope does the Silent Hill series have of ever looking as good as it with Silent Hill 3 and 4 if Konami Co. doesn't start developing it in-house again?
Silent Hill: Homecoming: Looks like ass.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories: Looks like ass
Silent Hill: Downpour: So far, it looks like ass
It's not just Konami, but it seems to me that nearly all American and European devs
totally suck at making appeal 3D models of human characters. The characters are never as visually appealing as they are intended to be, and the lip-syncing of the characters--even of games that were written in English--is usually atrocious.
Meanwhile, Remedy spent years developing Alan Wake, and it's as ugly as sin. What hope does the Silent Hill series have of ever looking as good as it with Silent Hill 3 and 4 if Konami Co. doesn't start developing it in-house again?
How About No
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Typographenia said:Ask and you will receive!
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I love how there's still light seeping through the window. You're in the dark world, yet it feels like everything outside the mall is still normal and untouched.
A bit like Henry's apartment, really.