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[evil ways]

I was talking to a friend on MSN last night, he seemed to like the movie but thought the mosters were a waste since the characters never put up a fight against them. He's a Resident Evil fanboy so go figure. Anyways, we talked about a possible sequel and I brought up the conflict between direct sequel to the first movie v.s. direct translation of SH2 that's going on here at GAF, and the idea we got was that they could borrow the premise of Silent Hill 2 with sinners being drawn into the town, with all new characters and a brand new lead who has his own dark sin.

For example have a wealthy Doctor(gynecologist maybe?) who's sin is that he sexually abused his patients, then sorta mix the Eddie and Angela characters together into 1 woman who was constantly physically and verbally abused by her father, the family knew about it and did nothing so she killed them all. Last but not least the lead, a man who's wife died while giving birth to their first child, then a month or 2 later the child dies as well without explanation. Now his twist could be that he resented and blamed the baby for his wife's death so much that he went into a depression and one night he smothered the baby to death. That would be his sin. They could then have a small child character who taunts and torments the lead character during the entire story somewhat like Laura did in SH2, and it could be revealed that it's actually Silent Hill's representation of the baby that the main character killed, his baby, now a bit more grown up.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

-How the in hell are you a witch (needing to be cleansed/killed to add), just because you don't have a father around (I mean WTF) ?!

it wasn't just that. After she got raped by that custodian guy, i think is when they viewed her as "unpure".

 

[djkimothy]

Like I keep saying.

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Christopher can be the exact replica of James. Someone already mentioned why. We don't know much about Chris other than the fact that he was dropping hints throughout the film that something was wrong with the marriage. He could have cheated on her, or done whatever else. This wasn't exactly his story, so we don't have enough details on him. If they keep him, it can be an exact replica of SH2, given the chance

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To change it up, he could have had an affair w/ another woman and killed her. Then he would be summoned to Silent Hill by his "dead" wife. The rest is history, except this time his wife's spirit "learns" of his affairs somehow and torments him to face his sins.

Different enough to be a mainstream movie/sequal but similar enough to the story. That's my take on it anyways.

 

[BocoDragon]

The battle for the Silent Hill movie sequel concept....

Sean Bean fanboys vs. SH2 game fanboys

 

[djkimothy]

The battle for the Silent Hill movie sequel concept....

Sean Bean fanboys vs. SH2 game fanboys

It sucks cause I'm both!

 

[Cosmozone]

OK, chill out with the fucking spoiler tags.

We're 20+ pages into this thread. Anyone who wants protection from spoilers should have probably seen the movie already.

I haven't seen the movie because it hasn't started yet in my country.Guess I'll just leave this thread since I've already read some spoilers, inadvertently.

 

[Great Rumbler]

The theory that

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Rose and Cybil died when their vehicles wrecked

has been floating around for a while, but the usual rebuttal to it is

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"where are the bodies then?" Well, I thought about it for a while and then I remember something. In a scene with Christopher and cop talking about what happened in Silent Hill, the cop says that the fire was so bad that they couldn't find all of the bodies. Perhaps the bodies that were never found where those of the cultists who are now in the foggy Silent Hill and the reason their bodies were never found was because they disapeared along with their souls or whatever. As you'll recall, Rose tells them at the end that they're all dead and they just don't realize it yet. Also, Christopher and the cop go to the "real" Silent Hill and it looks like a normal abandoned town. So the reason why nothing seemed out of the ordinary to them was because they were both still alive. When Rose and Cybill meet in Silent Hill for the first time, Rose points out that Cybill is bleeding. If you assume that they're both still alive, what purpose would it serve to focus attention to this? This explanation would also resolve the reasoning behind Rose not being able to leave Silent Hill at the end. She couldn't leave because, like everyone else, she was dead. However, the power of Alessa enabled her to "cross over" the gap that seperated the foggy Silent Hill from the rest of the world.

It's something to think about, anyway.

 

[Prince of Space]

The battle for the Silent Hill movie sequel concept....

Sean Bean fanboys vs. SH2 game fanboys

SH2 (the movie) could easily rewrite SH2 (the game)'s story as

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Christopher getting calls/letters from Rose begging him to find her in Silent Hill and berating him for leaving her there to die alone and never caring enough to find her.

Not saying that's what I would want, but they could easily rework the story to fit that mold.

 

[blindrocket]

Have you seen this video on Centralia? I know we've talked about Centralia here, but I haven't come across this video before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lat67vuhaL0&eurl=http://www.colinasilenciosa.net/
Sorry if repost.

 

[Mrbob]

Saw the movie last night with a couple friends (who never played SH, I only played the first one briefly), and we all thought it was great. I'm glad they didn't turn the main characters into super heroes who could destroy enemies at will. It helped bring a ton of tension to the movie knowing that the main characters were always on the run. Some of the acting was cheesy, but the tension was top notch. 3 1/2 out of 4 stars!

 

[BocoDragon]

SH2 (the movie) could easily rewrite SH2 (the game)'s story as

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Christopher getting calls/letters from Rose begging him to find her in Silent Hill and berating him for leaving her there to die alone and never caring enough to find her.

Not saying that's what I would want, but they could easily rework the story to fit that mold.

I feel like a broken record... but I don't think so.

You only think it's about a man finding his dead wife until you've beaten it.... By the end, it's clearly

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about a man coming to gripes with his euthenization of his wife. I don't think neglecting her by not saving her is even remotely the same thing.

Finding a loved one is not the point.

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Coming to grips with the fact that you murdered her is.

 

[Fantasmo]

Just picked up Silent Hill 2 for Xbox yesterday.

Is there anyway to aim down consistently? Damn creature was blocking my path on the ground only to bite me 3 times and kill poor James. I died in CQC (haha) because I couldnt hit the little bastard!

 

[brandonh83]

Just picked up Silent Hill 2 for Xbox yesterday.

Is there anyway to aim down consistently? Damn creature was blocking my path on the ground only to bite me 3 times and kill poor James. I died in CQC (haha) because I couldnt hit the little bastard!

I know, fuckin' ankle biters... :lol

 

[BocoDragon]

Just picked up Silent Hill 2 for Xbox yesterday.

Is there anyway to aim down consistently? Damn creature was blocking my path on the ground only to bite me 3 times and kill poor James. I died in CQC (haha) because I couldnt hit the little bastard!

Yeah, I believe it is how hard you push the button on PS2 version. Does Xbox even have analog buttons? If so it's prboably the same thing.

 

[brandonh83]

:lol :lol

Gans interview on IGN weekly:

"What is your favorite game... I mean, aside from Silent Hill?"

"Silent Hill 2."

 

[BiPolarGod]

Some go back a page and give me theirthoughts on my

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Rose as a martyr

post.

 

[brandonh83]

I think it'd be nice if Silent Hill 2 (movie) spent a lot more time in the dark domain, as the first movie was mostly in the light one. Not that I had a problem with it, I quite liked it, but having the second movie spend more time in the dark world would be a nice contrast to the first movie.

 

[BiPolarGod]

I think it'd be nice if Silent Hill 2 (movie) spent a lot more time in the dark domain, as the first movie was mostly in the light one. Not that I had a problem with it, I quite liked it, but having the second movie spend more time in the dark world would be a nice contrast to the first movie.

At the current state, there's no reason for Allesse to

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bring out the reaper and create the dark world.

She got her vengeance on those that tortured, despised, and tried to kill her. She's as happy as can be with Rose; alone in her own world.

 

[brandonh83]

At the current state, there's no reason for Allesse to

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bring out the reaper and create the dark world.

She got her vengeance on those that tortured, despised, and tried to kill her. She's as happy as can be with Rose; alone in her own world.

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So are you saying you don't think we will see the dark world in a sequel? Because if so... yeah I can't agree. The second movie may have nothing to do with Alessa.

 

[BiPolarGod]

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So are you saying you don't think we will see the dark world in a sequel? Because if so... yeah I can't agree. The second movie may have nothing to do with Alessa.

No no... I'm just saying nothing right NOW is out of order. I'm sure something in the second, if they even make a second movie, would happen for the dark world to appear again. But just at it's present point... everything is fine within her world.

 

[brandonh83]

No no... I'm just saying nothing right NOW is out of order. I'm sure something in the second, if they even make a second movie, would happen for the dark world to appear again. But just at it's present point... everything is fine within her world.

Right... and I'm just hoping there'll be more of the dark world in the sequel.

 

[G-Fex]

I'm just hoping for the sequel that they use the SH2 music a lot.

btw, is the song "she" ever played in the movie? I liked that Sh1 song.

 

[brandonh83]

I'm just hoping for the sequel that they use the SH2 music a lot.

btw, is the song "she" ever played in the movie? I liked that Sh1 song.

Most of the music in the movie was already from SH2...

 

[G-Fex]

damn. Well if they didn't play theme of laura and promise, then I can still look forward to that.

 

[teiresias]

I saw this like two days ago but hadn't had a chance to post anything about it. I haven't read any of this thread that is post-release so forgive me if I repeat stuff, but here are my general thoughts.

I'm sort of iffy on the whole thing - I need to see it again to get a better view of it though. I felt the creatures were great and the general mood of foggy Silent Hill was great - absolutely perfect.

I felt dark, hellish Silent Hill wasn't nearly dark enough after the first transition - that one was fine and it seemed really dark but

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everything in the school and in the hospital seemed entirely too well lit. I can sort of forgive it in the school since they wanted to make it more of a chase scene with the cockroaches and Pyramid Head, but the Hospital just confounded me because they had a character hand her a flashlight and make a point of saying she wouldn't be able to see without it when that obviously wasn't the case - it would have made the nurses a WHOLE lot creepier too if there was more shadow detail happening with them due to the lighting as well.

Otherwise, I thought the mood was really well done, a nice melancholy mood throughout the thing, even when people were laughing for whatever reason.

As for the story I appreciate it for what it was, though some of the changes leave me perplexed, I'll get to those later though. First, let's just accept the changes and everything as perfect, the story's plot is fine - but it could have been presented much better. The whole

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dark Alessa explains the whole thing in a big 5 - 10 minute flashback was just needless when alot of that backstory could have been woven into Sean Bean's rather bland and wasted subplot or told, in part, through Dahlia who had most of her potential wasted. This is just a major structural failing of the movie, IMO, and while, as a gamer, it's nice to see all of these things from the game in the beginning, as a movie watcher I wanted it to be better integrated into the story reveal rather than have Alessa at the end say "You followed my clues really well during the first part of the movie, well done, now here's what you should have been hearing all that time."

As for changes from the game, I don't really mind Dahlia all that much, though I think it would have made a more unique contrast throughout the film if

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She betrayed her daughter knowlingly and without remorse (though I doubt she didn't have any clue what was going to happen in this version, she just seemed less forthright and headstrong in this version and obviously wasn't as high up the chain of command in the cult in this). The contrast between her and Rose would have been great.

The changes to the cult itself absolutely confound me however. I can see how the whole "birthing God" thing may have been a bit confusing for a movie audience, but I can't help but think

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the change had more to do with taking a jab at Christian fundamentalism than with serving the story - don't bite my head off, everyone here knows I'm far from right-wing, but that's just how it played to me.

It was nice to see that the cult posters in the school still referenced a female God though.

The acting was fine, IMO, though Tanya Allen (Anna) was pretty bleh, but she's in the thing for like five minutes as fodder so, oh well.

As for interpretation:

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In the game I always felt Alessa was more of an innocent victim of the cult, who, if I remember the story FAQs correctly, was just trying to hide from the cult and Dahlia by creating the alternate reality, not necessarily as punishment. I'm not convinced in this version that she was completely innocent since we aren't ever told who the father is so I'm willing to venture it could be a demonic conception. She jumps to revenge EXTREMELY quickly, and Sharon - the good part of Alessa - is very meek and easily influenced by the evil part as evidenced by her altered drawings at the gas station. There's also a still somewhere that apparently isn't in the movie of Alessa at the school looking all defiant at the other children - which may be a clue that there was once a scene showing she wasn't exactly all peaches and creme. I don't know, I just didn't get as much of an "innocent victim" vibe from the Alessa in the movie as I did in the game.

Anyway, I'll see it agian, and it's definately the best video game -> movie translation I think I've seen, I just feel there were many structural problems that really shouldn't have gotten past the scripting stage.

 

[brandonh83]

They did play the Theme of Laura and Promise. Actually, Promise was played quite often in the film.

This, I got from a thread at SilentHillForum.com:

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* Silent Hill (0.00 - 0.10) (Silent Hill) - During the TriStar Pictures logo.
* Promise (Reprise) (Silent Hill 2) - Used as a recurring theme to the film. There is also a revamped, orchestrated version used seldomly throughout the film.
* The Day Of Night (Silent Hill 2) - When Rose and Sharon on napping under the tree.
* Letter - From The Lost Days (Silent Hill 3) - On Rose's car stereo when her and Sharon are going to Silent Hill.
* Betrayal (Silent Hill 2) - When Rose encounters the Grey Children.
* Johnny Cash's 'Ring Of Fire' - Playing on a jukebox after Rose awakens from being attacked by the Grey Children.
* A Stray Child (0.00 - 0.50) (Silent Hill 3) - When Rose reaches the cliffside before meeting Dahlia Gillespie.
* Never Forgive Me, Never Forget Me (Silent Hill 3) - When Rose is showing Dahlia what Sharon looks like.
* Wounded Warsong (Silent Hill 4: The Room) - When Rose is trying to find Midwich Elementary School.
* Prayer (Silent Hill 3) - During the scene where Rose and Cybil Bennett enter the church and when the Red Pyramid makes his third appearence.
* Maternal Heart (Silent Hill 3) - When Christabella helps Rose get to the Hospital.
* Magdalene (Silent Hill 2) - When Rose is in the Hospital with 'Lisa' and Alessa. This is also a revamped version made for the film.
* You're Not Here (Silent Hill 3) - Ending billing credits sequence.
* Tears Of... (Silent Hill) - Ending credits.
* Theme of Laura (Silent Hill 2) - Last song played during the ending credits.
* Die (0.42 - 0.56) (Silent Hill) - Used in teaser trailer, although could be considered 'remixed' as a sound was added to aid the climax of the teaser trailer.

 

[Wario64]

I think I heard "Innocent Moon" from SH3 as well. they also used a bit of "Lost Carol" for the ending

 

[brandonh83]

Yeah, that's not a complete list by a long stretch.

 

[G-Fex]

aw man...that's cool and all but really I can't see those songs fitting in this movie...it's just you know, "meant" for SH2.

 

[brandonh83]

aw man...that's cool and all but really I can't see those songs fitting in this movie...it's just you know, "meant" for SH2.

But they do fit in this movie.

 

[blindrocket]

So, any hinting out there that we'll get an extended cut of the film?

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I swear they need five to ten more minutes when Rose goes down the elevator in the hotel and dodges the nurses. More baddies, another Pyramid Head showdown, a bossfight, SOMETHING. That part was the weakest of the whole film, IMO.

 

[Senretsu]

It's already been mentioned but the ending credits rocked! Whoever designed that should be given a promotion. Also the song rocked too (but it was already one of my favorites), it was just me and a 4 other people on the other side of the theater who stayed to watch the beginning animation of the credits (I left after the animation ended). Anything happen at the very end?

 

[Vyse The Legend]

It's already been mentioned but the ending credits rocked! Whoever designed that should be given a promotion. Also the song rocked too (but it was already one of my favorites), it was just me and a 4 other people on the other side of the theater who stayed to watch the beginning animation of the credits (I left after the animation ended). Anything happen at the very end?

UFO ending where the aliens come to Chris, and he asks them if they have seen his wife and daughter.

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I wish. =(

 

[Baron Aloha]

Just saw it.

What worked:

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- The hell scenes with Pyramid Head

- The look of the town (real world, purgatory, and hell versions). They reall nailed it.

- The scene with the janitor monster.

- the end credits sequence

- most of the music

What didn't work:

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- Some of the diaglogue. Especially the parts where the characters tell eachother "everything is going to be okay". All hell is breaking loose and its going to be okay? Yeah. The entire audience laughed at that. Both times.

- The scene with the armless monster. Not only did it look bad, IMO... but why the hell is Cybil trying to give it orders? It clearly wasn't human. It would have made more sense for her to shoot that thing right away. I don't care what kind of cop training you have or whatever. If something like that is anywhere near you and getting closer you are gonna shoot first and ask questions later.

- The hell scenes with the burnt children and the nurses. I literally LOLed at the burnt children. They were funny IMO. They should have used real children in makeup and then applied CG fire effects to them instead of using those creatures. The creatures looked really silly. The nurses were also pretty damned funny because of how they moved. I agree with the poster that said the nurses scene should have been darker.

- After Rose passes by the nurses and opens the door and the screen turns white the Reaper's speech felt like something out of a videogame. I know this is a videogame movie and all but if felt really cheesy. It was basically "Congratulations you won the game now here is your ending".

- The end sequence with Alessa in the hospital bed and the barb wire. It might work in one of the Silent Hill games but its a bit much for a movie. Its just too out there I think. Also I cringed when they started playing the pipe organs in that scene. They sounded really out of place and over the top.

The audience seemed completely lost by the end of the movie. Heck, I've played through the games and I was also pretty lost. I never did 'get' SH1's story. The movie was almost as confusing.

Someone please explain....

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The whole Alessa, Sharon, Reaper thing? Alessa got knocked up by the janitor and Sharon was her daughter? I totally don't understand wtf was going on. If Sharon was her daughter why wasn't she 30 years old? With all of the exposition at the end of the movie they should have been able to explain this better.

Overall, I liked it... but certain things definitely could/should have been handled differently. Best videogame->movie ever? Probably. I'd have to watch it again though to be sure. I just kinda feel like this movie was missing something though.

Oh, and you better believe

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the sequel will be SH2 but replace James with Christoper. Thats what makes the most sense. The whole euthanasia thing might not be there but I don't think it needs to be. The story is really about a guy looking for his "dead" wife.

Oh, and is there anything that plays after the credits finish rolling? Did anyone stay until the end?

 

[BocoDragon]

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- The scene with the armless monster. Not only did it look bad, IMO... but why the hell is Cybil trying to give it orders? It clearly wasn't human. It would have made more sense for her to shoot that thing right away. I don't care what kind of cop training you have or whatever. If something like that is anywhere near you and getting closer you are gonna shoot first and ask questions later.

:lol Yeah right.... let's say you're a cop and something human-like is coming towards you, freaky as it is. It must be a monster right? Except monsters don't exist. You would never assume that, ever. You'd think it was a human or some freak writhing around in a bag for whatever reason.

The dumb thing would have just been opening fire on it before trying to talk to it, especially if you're a cop. What if you just capped some child who was fucking with you or a retarded homeless man wrapped in garbage bags? :lol

Oh, and you better believe

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the sequel will be SH2 but replace James with Christoper. Thats what makes the most sense. The whole euthanasia thing might not be there but I don't think it needs to be. The story is really about a guy looking for his "dead" wife.

No it isn't. And I really don't think they will.

That's the problem with an ambiguous ending... everyone thinks it's leading into a sequel. It was to illustrate that

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Chris was alive while his wife has been long dead or lost in another dimension of reality.

 

[Baron Aloha]

:lol Yeah right.... let's say you're a cop and something human-like is coming towards you, freaky as it is. It must be a monster right? Except monsters don't exist. You would never assume that, ever. You'd think it was a human or some freak writhing around in a bag for whatever reason.

The dumb thing would have just been opening fire on it before trying to talk to it, especially if you're a cop. What if you just capped some child who was fucking with you or a retarded homeless man wrapped in garbage bags? :lol

It was only like 20 feet in front of her. There was no mistaking that thing with a retarded homeless man wrapped in garbage bags. :lol

No it isn't. And I really don't think they will.

I definitely think they will take this route. Its more convenient for the film makers. The backstory would already be all set up by this movie.

That's the problem with an ambiguos ending... everyone thinks it's leading into a sequel.

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Well they definitely left the door wide open for one that's for sure. Theres still the issue of Rose and Sharon being in the alternate world (but not necessarily dead because no bodies were found). Plus this movie will more than likely end up #1 at the box office. A sequel is pretty much guaranteed.

 

[Fantasmo]

Yeah, I believe it is how hard you push the button on PS2 version. Does Xbox even have analog buttons? If so it's prboably the same thing.

It worked! Not even in the manual! Thanks Boco!

 

[Saurus]

There's a bunch of props and costumes from the movie on ebay now:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=premiereprops15

 

[BocoDragon]

It was only like 20 feet in front of her. There was no mistaking that thing with a retarded homeless man wrapped in garbage bags. :lol[/spoiler]

Dude this is the real world. If you had a gun, would you start shooting at things that look scary, unless they attacked you? Geez.

 

[Wario64]

There's a bunch of props and costumes from the movie on ebay now:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=premiereprops15

Credited Cast Overview:

Radha Mitchell
Rose Mason

Sean Bean
Harry Mason

what.

 

[Baron Aloha]

Dude this is the real world. If you had a gun, would you start shooting at things that look scary, unless they attacked you? Geez.

This is a stupid argument but since you asked... Yes. If, in the real world, I saw something threatening like that (something that could not be mistaken for a person or anything of this world) coming towards me and I had a gun...hell yes I would shoot it.

 

[BocoDragon]

If, in the real world, I saw something threatening like that (something that could not be mistaken for a person or anything of this world) coming towards me and I had a gun...hell yes I would shoot it.

Then I would say you play too many videogames

 

[Illuminati]

This is a stupid argument but since you asked... Yes. If, in the real world, I saw something threatening like that (something that could not be mistaken for a person or anything of this world) coming towards me and I had a gun...hell yes I would shoot it.

I would run first and see if it still follows me. If so then I would shoot it. Or if my radio makes hissing and static noises then I would definitely shoot it.

 

[BiPolarGod]

Someone please explain....

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The whole Alessa, Sharon, Reaper thing? Alessa got knocked up by the janitor and Sharon was her daughter? I totally don't understand wtf was going on. If Sharon was her daughter why wasn't she 30 years old? With all of the exposition at the end of the movie they should have been able to explain this better.

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Sharon was... sort of Allesse's daughter. The Janitor didn't knock up Allesse she was raped in the bathroom. After the whole "witch burning incident gone horribly wrong", Allesse was in the hospital for a while. She built up hate, anger; everything towards the cultists that did that to her. That's when the reaper came. The reaper took the last good "part" of Allesse, Sharon, and took her out of Silent Hill. She was placed in the orphanage, away from Allesse, so the reaper could use all of Allesse's anger to get vengeance upon the Puritan cultists.

 

[BiPolarGod]

Then I would say you play too many videogames

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I would shoot to disengage it. Such as in the leg. Make it fall, and then investigate. If it still had threatening intentions (and could still kill me after being disabled.. Regens anyone?) I would shoot the fucker in the head.

 

[Great Rumbler]

What if it was just some armless guy in a monster costume WHO WAS ALSO DEAF AND BLIND?

 

[djkimothy]

Someone please explain....

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The whole Alessa, Sharon, Reaper thing? Alessa got knocked up by the janitor and Sharon was her daughter? I totally don't understand wtf was going on. If Sharon was her daughter why wasn't she 30 years old? With all of the exposition at the end of the movie they should have been able to explain this better.

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It would have been impossible for her to give birth at the condition she was in. According to popular belief (gamefaq plot analysis) Sharon is the result of Alessa splitting herslef in half. According to the game, Lisa Garland was the one who took the baby away from Silent Hill and Harry took her in. One would suppose that Lisa Garland offered the child to the orphanage (Hope House?).

 

[3phemeral]

The theory that

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Rose and Cybil died when their vehicles wrecked

has been floating around for a while, but the usual rebuttal to it is

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"where are the bodies then?" Well, I thought about it for a while and then I remember something. In a scene with Christopher and cop talking about what happened in Silent Hill, the cop says that the fire was so bad that they couldn't find all of the bodies. Perhaps the bodies that were never found where those of the cultists who are now in the foggy Silent Hill and the reason their bodies were never found was because they disapeared along with their souls or whatever. As you'll recall, Rose tells them at the end that they're all dead and they just don't realize it yet. Also, Christopher and the cop go to the "real" Silent Hill and it looks like a normal abandoned town. So the reason why nothing seemed out of the ordinary to them was because they were both still alive. When Rose and Cybill meet in Silent Hill for the first time, Rose points out that Cybill is bleeding. If you assume that they're both still alive, what purpose would it serve to focus attention to this? This explanation would also resolve the reasoning behind Rose not being able to leave Silent Hill at the end. She couldn't leave because, like everyone else, she was dead. However, the power of Alessa enabled her to "cross over" the gap that seperated the foggy Silent Hill from the rest of the world.

It's something to think about, anyway.

I agree on one thing but not the other, but the first point you make is the first thing I thought when

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they mentioned that some of the bodies weren't found. I really don't think they died but at the time of the crash, since Sharon was the key to bringing "justice" to the occultists, Cybil was just an innocent bystander who happened to be transported into the netherworld of Silent Hill because she was present at the time of the transformation with Alessa willing it. The remaining villagers that couldn't be found were also transported into Alessa's nightmare because she brought them there to suffer, but their faith prevented real kind of retribution that Alessa thought they deserved, hence Rose's involvement.

If everyone was really dead, then there really is no point to them dying again. They're already technically dead. I think the reason why they mentioned Cybil's bleeding in the accident was to reassure the viewer that she was still alive, since one would assume they they were already dead because of the crash. Ghosts don't bleed.

I really think that the reason why they've never escaped from Slent Hill is because Alessa still has power. She didn't bring them out of it for whatever reason she has. If it's still following the plotlines of the games (which I've never played), perhaps she's still using them in another way that'll allow the birth of whatever God I've heard mentioned a few times.

 

[mollipen]

At the current state, there's no reason for Allesse to

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bring out the reaper and create the dark world.

She got her vengeance on those that tortured, despised, and tried to kill her. She's as happy as can be with Rose; alone in her own world.

I disagree.

(And yeah, at this point, especially since the title even says "SPOILERS," I'm not using the tag here.)

Alessa / the "Darkness" got its initial revenge, yes. But she's still there, and still in her own personal hell. Maybe she loved the taste of revenge that she got, and now wants to take it out on more people. Maybe while Alessa's goal may have been to get revenge on those who hurt her, the dark part of her wanted to get the cult out of the way, so that it wouldn't have that force trying to hold back the darkness to contend with. Or, maybe from all that Alessa has done, the town is simply tainted forever, and will end up creating evil on its own.

Just because Alessa got her revenge doesn't mean she's through. A girl, who has been in that position for this long, who has been through what she's been through, she probably has a lot more hatred than just for the cult. There's nothing to show that she, or any part of her, wanted only the cult dead. The only outsider she spared was Rose, and that's because of what Rose had done for Sharon.

 

[LRS]

Man. Looking all the critic reviews you would think this was the worst movie ever. From now on I guess I'm gonna need to ignore them and just see what I think might be good.

My only experience with Silent Hill was from playing some of part 3 but wow, I enjoyed and understood the movie. Yeah, some of the lines of the characters were kinda iffy but the wonderful cinematography, special effects, and unique feel made up for it. The atmosphere kinda reminded me of Hellraiser during the dark world and ending scenes. I might have to go see this movie again.

Yeah...It may not be the greatest film ever created but I don't understand why some people think Silent Hill deserves 1/10 or whatever. Then again, we all have different opinions...

I'm gonna have to go out and get the other games now since I'm really interested in the Silent Hill universe now.