Prince of Space
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Holy shit, looking at the rest of his videos, the guy who did the alternate dub has done a pretty damn amazing LP of Homecoming. Like, far better than the game deserves.
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Silent Hill HD Collection's new SH2 voices revealed
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colormage1
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I'm not happy... Not at all.
From what I'm reading, it seems like these aren't the finalized voices, so I'm hoping that something changes.
I love SH2. It's my favorite game of all time.
And when I heard that they were redoing the voices, I had mixed feelings but felt that it could be a better game because the voice acting was arguably the worst thing about the game.
These voices are definitely worst. There was something very smooth and haunting about all the original voices. These seem raspy. All of them. I'm assuming it's how they were directed. There is this very rough quality that is unappealing.
And Mary also couldn't sound happier even though she will die in about... 10 seconds? >>
From what I'm reading, it seems like these aren't the finalized voices, so I'm hoping that something changes.
I love SH2. It's my favorite game of all time.
And when I heard that they were redoing the voices, I had mixed feelings but felt that it could be a better game because the voice acting was arguably the worst thing about the game.
These voices are definitely worst. There was something very smooth and haunting about all the original voices. These seem raspy. All of them. I'm assuming it's how they were directed. There is this very rough quality that is unappealing.
And Mary also couldn't sound happier even though she will die in about... 10 seconds? >>
jim-jam bongs
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Typographenia said:
IT'S THE SHITTIEST VA TO EVER SHIT A SHIT
Nah, but it's a massive contrast to the quality of everything else in the game so it stands out in my memory. Like, it was graphically superb, the story was incredible, the atmosphere peerless... etc etc
But he was a shit-for-brains; that voice fit him. And the way he delivered that exact line ("Killing a person ain't no big deal.") was perfect; you could hear that he snapped, that there's something insane in his voice. I don't feel it with the new voice.typo said:
As I've said before, original voices are stuck in my head forever. The moment I started to watch the video I instantly expected to hear those old voices with that delivery, so hearing something new was... weird. I felt a disconnection between what I saw and what I heard, like if those voices don't belong to those characters.
I'm worried about SH3 now. I don't want new voice actors for Vincent or Claudia.
RadioHeadAche
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Maybe it's due to the fact that I've played SH2 so many times that the voices are burned into my memory, but those just don't sound right. As of right now, I really don't like this.
ULTROS!
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Combichristoffersen said:
Seriously, as much as a 360 version is for the better, delaying it for the sake of making it multiplatform is fucking annoying.
Fuck you Konami.
RadioHeadAche
Member
I was looking forward to that this year.
rahuljx
Member
Im definitely in the camp who prefers the original. But seeing these clips out of context, without music, etc makes the new voicework all the more jarring so I'll probably wait till I get a look at the finished product.
Having said that are they adding new scenes, new lines, etc.? If they arent I really dont see the point of new VA. The ending of the original was really special and the whole story/game hinges on it, so I hope they dont screw it up, otherwise we'll have bunch of new gamers who'll never understand why SH2 is rated so high.
Having said that are they adding new scenes, new lines, etc.? If they arent I really dont see the point of new VA. The ending of the original was really special and the whole story/game hinges on it, so I hope they dont screw it up, otherwise we'll have bunch of new gamers who'll never understand why SH2 is rated so high.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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Man, seeing those scenes pulled my nostalgia strings. I should take one of my two copies of Silent Hill 2 for a spin again sometime soon. That would make it what? the fifteenth time?
What a masterpiece. I salute you PS2 era Konami, and at the same time shit on your modern outsource era self.
What a masterpiece. I salute you PS2 era Konami, and at the same time shit on your modern outsource era self.
This whole thing makes me feel really uncomfotable. I mean, we're getting all this because Konami won't pay Guy Cihi? It cost less to rerecord all the voices instead of paying this one dude for a couple of re-releases? There's just something dodgy about the whole deal.
And I mean, my problem isn't really with the quality of the voice-acting. To me, this very much feels like a George Lucas "Original Trilogy" style ordeal. Believe it or not, people like Silent Hill 2 as it is, flaws and all. As someone in this thread already mentioned, you wouldn't want to buy a copy of something like Resident Evil on Playstation, only to find the voices changed. By all means, do new voices for the people who disliked them in the original, but at least give us an option.
And I mean, my problem isn't really with the quality of the voice-acting. To me, this very much feels like a George Lucas "Original Trilogy" style ordeal. Believe it or not, people like Silent Hill 2 as it is, flaws and all. As someone in this thread already mentioned, you wouldn't want to buy a copy of something like Resident Evil on Playstation, only to find the voices changed. By all means, do new voices for the people who disliked them in the original, but at least give us an option.
Broder Salsa
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Nemesis556 said:
Yes.
Broder Salsa
Banned
randomwab said:
Pretty sure Cihi also claimed that he knew they owed other actors money at one point, of course it's claims but there seems to be something about it when they go out of their way to record new voices. There is no good reason to replace someone like Heather.
Square Triangle
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gatotsu911 said:
That is not it at all. The games are extremely memorable and Silent Hill's narration is embedded in my head. The change in voice actors feels like a different game- I'll still play them but it's not the same.
sixteen-bit
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The new stuff is way better, objectively speaking.Bit-Bit said:
The Praiseworthy
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Bit-Bit said:
Maria old voice suit her better..... hell, all the characters old voices suit them BETTER.
Why the hell did Konami get new VA and spend unnecessary money for?
sixteen-bit
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Didn't they not want to pay James' voice actor residuals?The Praiseworthy said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=433173
the_korben
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randomwab said:
I completely agree. Has there been any official word on this? It's not like swapping out a couple of additional MB of voice data, and adding a tiny switch in the option menu, would be such an impossible thing to achieve ...
In my opinion, all of these HD collections should have a "classic" mode (= pure emulation) anyway.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Barakov said:
This is how I feel.
Whoever brought up the AKIRA dub comparison was spot on. The newer one was 'technically' better, but, at least for me, it lost all the charm of the original. Also- nostalgia.
I'm anxious to hear Laura- who's voice I actually really liked in the original. Little kid voice actors are usually either hit or miss with rare middle-ground.
"YOU...YOU....YOU.....FARTFACE!"
Gotta nail that line, girl!
I like Troy Baker as a VA, so I'm happy about his casting as James. Guy Cihi really grew on me- but this isn't a deal breaker to me. Still think it's shitty how Konami treated him.
Acquiescence
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Bit-Bit said:
I love how that video was supposed to convince me that the new dub is terrible, but instead certifies how bad the original voice acting really was.
Zombie James
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TheJollyCorner said:
If the trend continues, Laura will probably sound like she's in her late 20s.
Watching the comparison video:
Mary/Maria: Old one is better. Though in the original, she definitely had the best performance of the cast.
Eddie: New one in some ways sounds more fitting, but it's hard to tell without context. There's a difference between how he is earlier and how he is at that point. It makes sense that Eddie sounds like a useless douche most of the game.
James: New one is flat out better. I'm not sure how that will impact things, but this James actually sounds like he is in a town that is out to get him. That's should ultimately be a good thing.
I'd rather they didn't change the voices at all, just to preserve the original game, but it's not like they're doing a bad job at it.
Mary/Maria: Old one is better. Though in the original, she definitely had the best performance of the cast.
Eddie: New one in some ways sounds more fitting, but it's hard to tell without context. There's a difference between how he is earlier and how he is at that point. It makes sense that Eddie sounds like a useless douche most of the game.
James: New one is flat out better. I'm not sure how that will impact things, but this James actually sounds like he is in a town that is out to get him. That's should ultimately be a good thing.
I'd rather they didn't change the voices at all, just to preserve the original game, but it's not like they're doing a bad job at it.
cj_iwakura
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Doomrider said:
She was also the voice of Jenna Angel in DDS, so more Mary Elizabeth is always good.
Typographenia
Member
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE.Acquiescence said:
I'm ready to hear the new SH3 cast voices, now.
Also, randomwab, I agree. She did the readings for the SH3 soundtrack, and I think she'd make a great Claudia.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Typographenia said:
SH3 one is interesting.
I mean, the main character was named after the voice actress, for christ's sake! lol
edit:
By the way, has anyone checked the IMDB cast listing for the new SH movie?
I wonder if it's accurate? If so- MORE SEAN BEAN!
GoldandBlue
Member
I think Mary's new voice suits her better. Eddie's new voice is terrible.
No real opinion on James though. I liked the voices for SH3 as they were so I'm not looking forward to the changes in that.
No real opinion on James though. I liked the voices for SH3 as they were so I'm not looking forward to the changes in that.
revolverjgw
Member
Most of the new voices are better and fit the characters just fine, and I don't mind them at all.
But James... whoa. I don't know if I'll ever get used to that. Of course it was never a good performance, but I really liked his original voice, it just fit such a vulnerable guy. The bad acting even fit in to the whole surreal dreamlike feel, somehow. He sounds like a totally different kind of guy now.
But James... whoa. I don't know if I'll ever get used to that. Of course it was never a good performance, but I really liked his original voice, it just fit such a vulnerable guy. The bad acting even fit in to the whole surreal dreamlike feel, somehow. He sounds like a totally different kind of guy now.
I'm relieved to hear these new voices. McGlynn is an excellent choice for Mary/Maria, and although she sounds jarring and has huge shoes to fill, I think her voice will work very well in the context of the game. The guys could be better, but they're far superior to the original cast. I'm really looking forward to playing SH 2 without James's painfully bad VA. Huge sigh of relief for me.
How About No
Member
Ugh, sounds so damn wrong. It's gonna take a lot of mental conditioning to ever get used to these new voices.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
The VA in 2/3 (the only two I've played so far) were shit.
I'm sure the final version of this collection will be infinitely better than the original versions.
I'm sure the final version of this collection will be infinitely better than the original versions.
hey_it's_that_dog said:
I understand what you mean, and some of the VO in the original releases of the game certainly help increase the "creepiness" factor(like Angela; her awkward delivery genuinely did work for the character, but some of the other characters were just off. Like James).
Don't get me wrong, it's not like I hated the VO in the Silent Hills, I just thought they weren't especially good. I started replaying SH1, and the VO is just laughably bad. There's nothing creepy about it at all. Outside of Heather and maybe Claudia, the VO in SH3 is pretty shit too.
SH2 has a lot of awkward VO, but some of it works, although I think James was just terribly acted.
I'll always have a soft spot for the VO, but I'm interested in seeing how this new take is going to work out. I'm really curious. Who knows. We've only seen a snippet of dialogue, it's hard to tell how that performance is going to be across the whole game. inFAMOUS 2's new Cole sounded a little weird in the few short trailer snippets we got, but in the final game, I thought he worked so much better than Jason Cottle.
It's a shame they didn't show Angela's new voice. She's the only one that bothered me in SH2; even though she's meant to be a teenager, she sounds like 30+ years old.
New James starts to grow on me. Mary/Maria... sounds too old, I prefer the old, more playful and sexy Maria, but on her own she's still good.
However, Eddie is terrible. Old one - a stupid useless loser - was way better.
New James starts to grow on me. Mary/Maria... sounds too old, I prefer the old, more playful and sexy Maria, but on her own she's still good.
However, Eddie is terrible. Old one - a stupid useless loser - was way better.
Lavalamp1138
Member
Just so I can get things straight, the new cast from the trailer is as follows:
James: Troy Baker (Yuri, Snow, Booker, Vincent)
Maria: Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (Motoko, Kurenai, Helba)
Eddie: Liam O'Brien (Gaara, War, Grimoire Weiss)
Am I right in this assumption? Eddie is a stretch, but I'm a big O'Brien fan and was all like, dat breathing!
James: Troy Baker (Yuri, Snow, Booker, Vincent)
Maria: Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (Motoko, Kurenai, Helba)
Eddie: Liam O'Brien (Gaara, War, Grimoire Weiss)
Am I right in this assumption? Eddie is a stretch, but I'm a big O'Brien fan and was all like, dat breathing!
revolverjgw
Member
Lavalamp1138 said:
I have no idea, but his James Mason impression in Nier was by far my favorite thing about that sketchy game
revolverjgw said:
In more intimate moments, James' voice kinda worked. He sounded like a very vulnerable, tired, pretty normal guy. Unremarkable in a way you don't normally see in games.
But he pretty much never seemed concerned the entire game. At his most distressed, he sounded kinda annoyed, like this trip to Silent Hill is the worst vacation ever, where all the roads are out, and it's foggy, and the shops are closed and the locks are broken. This is nothing like what it said in the brochure!
There's rarely any sense that he perceives that he is (or was) in actual peril, like a slightly less bad version of some of House of the Dead 2's voice acting. It's different, but I don't think it really added to the atmosphere.
As I said before, I'd rather they kept everything the same, but if they're going to make changes, these largely aren't bad changes.