StealthGoblin
Banned
Still beavering away at it. Maybe Killzone 4 will be the end of the canonical series and the new IP will be their PS4 IP.
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Siliconera Rumor: Tidbits About Sonys Next Killzone Game
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Still beavering away at it. Maybe Killzone 4 will be the end of the canonical series and the new IP will be their PS4 IP.
We didn't hear about Naughty Dog's The Last of Us until quite recently and they had been working on it for a long time. Internal studios tend to keep pretty quiet about things like that.
HyperBitHero
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Rico was a pretty cool guy in KZ3. He was helpful and supportive. He was still a loose cannon, but not nearly as much as in KZ2.
I don't think he was redeemed for his action in 2, but I wasn't annoyed by him at all in KZ3.
^We haven't heard anything about hiring for positions yet though. Or have we?
EDIT: Actually, having checked their website, they are on a major hiring binge right now, including senior designers. With this, it looks a little bit unlikely we'll see what they have to show in terms of their new IP just yet.
EDIT: Actually, having checked their website, they are on a major hiring binge right now, including senior designers. With this, it looks a little bit unlikely we'll see what they have to show in terms of their new IP just yet.
Basically this. Warzone needs to return to its glory. No perks, no skills points, no deathmatch only.
Guerilla has always been a C-tier developer. Their tech and art teams are some of the best in the business, but their management and designers are just awful.
Rico has always been a terrible plot device. He needs to go. No explanation; no plot point. Rico should not be in the next game.
No. He is unlikeable because is poorly written and acted. He is constantly used to push a terrible plot forward by acting out-of-line, yet somehow he retains his military standing.
NullPointer
Member
Yep. If its anything like Killzone 3 I'm out.
If you play as the Helghast, there goes my motivation to play the game. All the interesting characterization was in Killzone 1 and 2. Whomever they have doing their writing for 3 was a complete hack; the Helghast society was dry as fuck. No thanks to playing as the boring one note british sounding guys that are all generic rip offs of the soviet/nazi era that all generally wear the exact same infantry outfit.
Really though, you should always play as the good guys (ISA), but the subversion of the evil Helghast regime through characters like Hakha should have been the side focus on the entire series. Playing as Hahka, or a moderate Helghast under him, would be a cool diversion, but you shouldn't play as those boring as fuck badguys that just want to kill the good guys and murder trillions of people. Anyone whom wants to play as the Helghast/thinks that the ISA are the bad guys, is mental.
After how terrible and destructive Killzone 3 was, if it's anything like that on a narrative or gameplay level (holy hell at the MP level design), I'm out.
Really though, you should always play as the good guys (ISA), but the subversion of the evil Helghast regime through characters like Hakha should have been the side focus on the entire series. Playing as Hahka, or a moderate Helghast under him, would be a cool diversion, but you shouldn't play as those boring as fuck badguys that just want to kill the good guys and murder trillions of people. Anyone whom wants to play as the Helghast/thinks that the ISA are the bad guys, is mental.
After how terrible and destructive Killzone 3 was, if it's anything like that on a narrative or gameplay level (holy hell at the MP level design), I'm out.
Yeah, they made him more likable by making him less useless and mad but it wasn't enough. It's kinda infuriating to know that they had four maindudes in KZ2 but they choosed to
kill off Garcia (likable buddy char) and make Natko (witty burly man) into the co-op player in KZ3 (never heard of again in the campaign). BUT Rico is still in
Wasn't it already announced that they were working on a new IP and a new Killzone game for PS3?
Stumpokapow
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C'mon man, they're at a least B Team quality.
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I'm interested in seeing how they might change the Tactician class in this game, assuming this isn't an SP only Vita game or similar.
The ability to drop spawn grenades anywhere in KZ2 gave it an almost meta-game type quality by directing forces and countering enemy spawns. KZ3 simplified it for the sake of limiting the general dumbassery that comes with placing spawns anywhere, but it eliminated the more dynamic game flow. I'd hope for the more freeform KZ2 tactician, but who knows if all the classes will even remain.
Acrylic7
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carpediemdp
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This. Would be awesome to play as a Helghan.
shadowsdarknes
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I think I like KZ3 just a tad more than 2.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
What I liked about Killzone 1 and 2 was that when all the enemies were dead and the room was empty there was just silence. I remember feeling almost depressed when playing Killzone 1 with the emptiness after firefights. I had the same feeling at times in Killzone 2 but never in Killzone 3, too much buddy-buddy.
I'd love for them to really go full out european war thriller that just happens to be a fps. That's the only way I can see this franchise work. But personally I'd just like them to bury it.
I'd love for them to really go full out european war thriller that just happens to be a fps. That's the only way I can see this franchise work. But personally I'd just like them to bury it.
Might as well just go all the way and make a Jin-Roh game. At least with that, the writing is done for the members of the Wolf Brigade.
Have you played Shellshock?
Acrylic7
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kz3 is complete garbage
kz2 is the ps3's greatest fps. arguably FOM. kz2 beats it because of MP.
also the Multiplayer is the exact opposite of a shitcakes. Its the best multiplayer fun since Gears 1.
REALLY hope they make the guy responsible for the crazy color pallet and art direction sit in a corner.
No, but I can think of a few dev studios that have a project or two they'd rather forget. Going by their KZ work I'd say (as you said) strong technical/art prowess, but I'd grade it at B quality output. Triple B even.
BattleMonkey
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This is why we can't have nice things
MeBecomingI
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To each there own, but I'm glad they aren't.
Right, because you somehow speak for everyone...
For me, I am happy that this franchise isn't dead and I want to see it continue. That speech they listed was very, very appropriate for Killzone, so it seemed pretty legit. I really, really liked it. It definitely sounded like it could be in the future, long after the end of Killzone 3. Pumped!
I just hope they save Killzone 4 for the PS4. Killzone on the Vita better get a good showing at E3, if they show it at all.
The control of KZ3 allied with the focus of KZ2. I felt like KZ3 went places just for the sake of variety. Then again, if they can do it better then so be it.
I just wish we could play from the Helghan side as second campaign of sorts.
Also, is there any vita footage for this illusive KZ game?
I just wish we could play from the Helghan side as second campaign of sorts.
Also, is there any vita footage for this illusive KZ game?
StealthGoblin
Banned
Helghast shooting ISA. At least the Helghast have a leader you can rally behind. The ISA are just generic dudes doing generic things. As a Helghast I'd love to be able to visit where they hid all the women and children etc.
Pachterballs
Banned
I agrees with this. Not saying ps3 is long in the tooth but yeah next gen would be better for the franchise
KZ3 controls was the best refinement of the controls, have it like that in Killzone 4. Make the campaign more like KZ2, the vehicle sections in KZ3 were not that good and dragged on too long.
That don't stop people from shitting on CoD though.
Also this. Different playable characters who play differently from each other added some more depths to an otherwise by the book FPS.
That don't stop people from shitting on CoD though.
Also this. Different playable characters who play differently from each other added some more depths to an otherwise by the book FPS.
Don't you think shooting the ISA is more generic than shooting the Helghan?
StealthGoblin
Banned
Shooting them would be more generic, but I think playing alongside the Helghast would be more fun, especially the one liners they come out with. Plus, if it means my motivation the whole game is to find and kill Rico, what's not to like?
Lion Heart
Banned
Sorry man, it doesn't work. This game would be torn to shreds if all you did was fight generic ISA. Its like a horror game where you are the monster killing puny humans.
I would like a new Killzone Liberation in my life. I would actually purchase a Vita for it.
Each Killzone so far had things i enjoyed.
The first had the character selection, anti run-n-gun pacing and alternate weapon fire.
The second had the graphics and improved weapon repertoire
The third had better controls, especially move incorporation
And Liberation was just great all round
But really, apart from Haka in the first, the characters have just sucked. OK mostly the ISA characters. The helghast characters are boss.
And they really do need to flesh out the story better. The actual lore/backstory is brilliant
Each Killzone so far had things i enjoyed.
The first had the character selection, anti run-n-gun pacing and alternate weapon fire.
The second had the graphics and improved weapon repertoire
The third had better controls, especially move incorporation
And Liberation was just great all round
But really, apart from Haka in the first, the characters have just sucked. OK mostly the ISA characters. The helghast characters are boss.
And they really do need to flesh out the story better. The actual lore/backstory is brilliant
It should be realized by now that Guerrilla is a mediocre developer. They've only made on good game which was for the psp. While the PS3 efforts have been disappointing. Sony has given Guerrilla three chances with huge budgets to make something great and yet they continue to fail. Shame such a more talented developer like Sony Bend gets stuck making handheld games, yet all their games have been better than Guerrilla's efforts.
