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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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Iam Canadian
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Shinobix said:Updates should've been every day
Sakurai's had enough trouble stretching these updates out to release with five updates a week. With seven per week, he'd have to...give each difficulty on the difficulty sliders its own update or something.
As far as time/stock matches go, if stocks aren't selectable in random online battles, I'm going nowhere near them unless I have to in order to unlock stuff.
To put in my opinion on why for a moment... Time matches fundamentally suck. This is simply because they leave open the mere option of converting Smash into a defensive game, allowing the possibility of that strategy of a leader playing purely not to die, which is less interesting (to the opposing player) than continuing to play to win for the duration of the match. Between the three Sakurai games I know of that had time and stock matches, in none of them was time my preferred option--not even in Meteos, a puzzle game. Why time continues to be the default setting in his games, I don't know. I don't have that explanation, but what worries me more is that I suspect nobody else does either.
Donkey Kong's alternate colors
Double jumping
Castle Siege Roof
Mario's Fireball
Party Ball
Link's up taunt
Walking and running
Sonic's final smash
Stage Builder: Ladder Tool
DOUBLE UPDATE! Rice Ball and Pizza Slice
Pikachu's Thundershock
Stickers: Birdo
Castle Siege Castle
Samus' alternate colors
Crouching
Meta Knight's side taunt
Tourney Menu
Stage Builder: Changing the Background
DOUBLE UPDATE! Suicune and Togepi
Melee Stages
Castle Siege Underground
Event 1: Two Trouble Kings
Strong attacks
Pink Smoke Ball
Stickers: Silver the Hedgehog
DOUBLE UPDATE! Sound effects: Mario's "Woohoo!" and "Yippee!"
Battleship Halberd Hangar
Donkey Kong's Headbutt
Music: Fox's victory theme
Fight Sandbag While You Wait!
To put in my opinion on why for a moment... Time matches fundamentally suck. This is simply because they leave open the mere option of converting Smash into a defensive game, allowing the possibility of that strategy of a leader playing purely not to die, which is less interesting (to the opposing player) than continuing to play to win for the duration of the match. Between the three Sakurai games I know of that had time and stock matches, in none of them was time my preferred option--not even in Meteos, a puzzle game. Why time continues to be the default setting in his games, I don't know. I don't have that explanation, but what worries me more is that I suspect nobody else does either.
My Vision of Novembust on the All-Week-Update PlanIam Canadian said:
Donkey Kong's alternate colors
Double jumping
Castle Siege Roof
Mario's Fireball
Party Ball
Link's up taunt
Walking and running
Sonic's final smash
Stage Builder: Ladder Tool
DOUBLE UPDATE! Rice Ball and Pizza Slice
Pikachu's Thundershock
Stickers: Birdo
Castle Siege Castle
Samus' alternate colors
Crouching
Meta Knight's side taunt
Tourney Menu
Stage Builder: Changing the Background
DOUBLE UPDATE! Suicune and Togepi
Melee Stages
Castle Siege Underground
Event 1: Two Trouble Kings
Strong attacks
Pink Smoke Ball
Stickers: Silver the Hedgehog
DOUBLE UPDATE! Sound effects: Mario's "Woohoo!" and "Yippee!"
Battleship Halberd Hangar
Donkey Kong's Headbutt
Music: Fox's victory theme
Fight Sandbag While You Wait!
boiled goose
good with gravy
I just want stock matches sakurai....PLEASE someone do something!!!!
WastingPenguins
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Jiggy37 said:
I couldn't agree more about time matches. Further, I also find free-for-all matches to be pretty unruly, as it becomes a game of politics and random gang-ups. If you're gonna go 4 player, teams is definitely best.
:lol Five stars.
Keru_Shiri
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Personally, I would be really surprised if we couldn't set online matches to Stock. But honestly, as long as I get fully customizable options for my friends matches so I can play by "shitty tournament rules :lol " I'll be more than happy.
Well, I've returned from a buddy's house to reconfirm that time matches DO INDEED suck as much as I originally thought. We sat down to some SSBM and set up tournament mode just for fun with the 5 of us (we basically counted the CPU as a free pass ), and I forgot to change the settings to stock for some reason.
Anyway the first 1v1 started and we saw it was the notorious '2:00 time match', and just thought "meh, we'll go for it". Needless to say with was pretty damn sucky. What happened a lot of the time is one person would get 2 kills, and be at a high percentage, while the other person would only have only one kill but be at relatively low percentage, and then the time would run out. Had it been stock mode, both players probably would have evened out (we're all pretty close in skill) and the game would have actually been a close match, but since it was time, we were effectively 'cut off' by the sheer nature of the game mode. Now I know in stock it ends up being the same deal, with one person eventually taking off the last stock and ultimately winning the match, but with stock you have a clear idea of exactly how many deaths you can afford before you're done for good; even if you get an unlucky suicide, you can still come back (in time mode, this means an almost certain loss since you just won't have enough time to get 2 kills ahead).
Now I can't speak for 4 player FFA time matches from this experience, but the ONLY good thing I can see about these right now is the simple fact that everyone gets to play until the end, which is a reason I can see Sakurai really liking. Maybe stock matches could let people leave the game after they've been eliminated or something, so they don't get 'bored'? This quote is making me worry if we'll see basic brawl stock matches at all.
No Sakurai, we really, really do want to trouble with settings!
), and I forgot to change the settings to stock for some reason.Anyway the first 1v1 started and we saw it was the notorious '2:00 time match', and just thought "meh, we'll go for it". Needless to say with was pretty damn sucky. What happened a lot of the time is one person would get 2 kills, and be at a high percentage, while the other person would only have only one kill but be at relatively low percentage, and then the time would run out. Had it been stock mode, both players probably would have evened out (we're all pretty close in skill) and the game would have actually been a close match, but since it was time, we were effectively 'cut off' by the sheer nature of the game mode. Now I know in stock it ends up being the same deal, with one person eventually taking off the last stock and ultimately winning the match, but with stock you have a clear idea of exactly how many deaths you can afford before you're done for good; even if you get an unlucky suicide, you can still come back (in time mode, this means an almost certain loss since you just won't have enough time to get 2 kills ahead).
Now I can't speak for 4 player FFA time matches from this experience, but the ONLY good thing I can see about these right now is the simple fact that everyone gets to play until the end, which is a reason I can see Sakurai really liking. Maybe stock matches could let people leave the game after they've been eliminated or something, so they don't get 'bored'? This quote is making me worry if we'll see basic brawl stock matches at all.
No Sakurai, we really, really do want to trouble with settings!
SouthernDragon
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If there is a Basic Brawl, that would posit the existence of an "Advanced Brawl," would it not?
If I want a quick and dirty 2 minute game, Basic Brawl's the ticket. If I want something a little more nuanced, that I have to wait a little more, there's Advanced.
Bank on it.
If I want a quick and dirty 2 minute game, Basic Brawl's the ticket. If I want something a little more nuanced, that I have to wait a little more, there's Advanced.
Bank on it.
After going over the menu's I think that if there was another mode besides basic in "with anyone" then it would have been there and blurred out. But with friends, I am sure there will be more options.
Also I noticed (probably not the only one) that at the top of each menu screen, on the left, it says what menu you are at. But what I noticed is that there is a little / thing lit pink, and it shows the tier, or what ever you would like to call it, of how far into the menus you are. Maybe after some more investigating we might find out there are more modes within various modes. Just speculation, this might not mean anything really.
Also I noticed (probably not the only one) that at the top of each menu screen, on the left, it says what menu you are at. But what I noticed is that there is a little / thing lit pink, and it shows the tier, or what ever you would like to call it, of how far into the menus you are. Maybe after some more investigating we might find out there are more modes within various modes. Just speculation, this might not mean anything really.
Holy Order Sol
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Tristam said:
Don't forget me guys, I want to join the shitty brawls too.
CreatureX3
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I've seen a Best Buy employee stocking new copies of Melee a few weeks ago at my local BB. Melee is still selling to this day. Which means there are people out there experiencing Melee for the very first time! Lucky them!2DMention said:
CreatureX3 said:I've seen a Best Buy employee stocking new copies of Melee a few weeks ago at my local BB. Melee is still selling to this day. Which means there are people out there experiencing Melee for the very first time! Lucky them!
Heh. It WOULD finally take something like the sequel to the game coming out at long last, before FINALLY the predecessor would drop in price...
In other news, I've been finding myself playing the original SSB a lot here lately. Just for the fun of it all...and also to get memories of when Ness and Kirby were like top-tier characters. :lol
TreIII said:
It's been YEARS since I last touched the original Smash. Melee is taking up most of my gaming time right now, becuz I can just pick up and play it. I'm workin on my Peach skillz/turnip accuracy/consecutive hits/killing Ganondorf. Can't wait to test out her improvements. Cuz she really needed them.
FlightOfHeaven said:
One would assume so.
zaxor0 said:
I wouldn't count on it. If they can cut out characters and stages for the demo version, they can cut out online modes.
crowphoenix
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teddyboi said:
Oh for the love of... It's not that bad. I assume you'll have people to play with in the friends matches. I mean you could just ask here if you needed some random people to beat down in a stock match.
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Pretty good comic I think for folks in here.
The stars make you want to go with Nintendo.
Pretty good comic I think for folks in here.
ShockingAlberto
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If I could prove it, I would bet money that you are lying.teddyboi said:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/413257MMaRsu said:
JohnTinker
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Speevy said:
Cedric said:
I don't think they're planning to show us every trophy anyway, it should be nice to find cool references on our own.
I'll go with my favorite prediction; Sonic stage tonight.
Also sp0rsk, isn't it already time to lift that ban over that specific word? I could see its utility a few pages back, but it's starting to become kinda pointless now. Plus it's not like one can't bypass the ban by simply referring to it indirectly, which pretty much defies the whole purpose. It isn't that often mentioned now that updates are made of 80% more suckage anyway.
You know, just sayin'....
Keru_Shiri
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Actually, the Advanced Brawl option sounds incredibly feasible, so I'm betting on this as well, with lobbys and matchmaking and all that.Tristam said:
And Holy Order Sol, come Brawl, I'll be more than ready to go against your knee on the shitty field of battle.
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