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[bigmakstudios]

"Pi-Ness!"
"D-Ike!"
lawl.

 

[Jammy]

I'm surprised they didn't go with a Piplup, Grotle, Infernape combination to try to advertise Pokemon Diamond and Pearl more. I hope they're in as different skins.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Marth's Falchion is still the Fire Emblem icon. I'd say the evidence that he's in there is stronger than the evidence he is not.

Besides, I doubt Sakurai is going to go "Well, Marth and Ike look really similar, I guess Marth's out!" If he wants Marth in there, he'll figure out a satisfactory way to get Marth in there, end of discussion.

 

[SouthernDragon]

Not to mention that Ike's and Marth's movelist are, from what we can tell, rather different.

 

[GamerSoul]

I'm surprised they didn't go with a Piplup, Grotle, Infernape combination to try to advertise Pokemon Diamond and Pearl more. I hope they're in as different skins.

I have a feeling that the 4th gen lineup won't be in. I hope I'm wrong though. Palkia and Dialga would have some cool looking moves.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Infernape and Turtwig will probably just replace Charizard and Chikorita in the pokeballs.

 

[JKBii]

So this really has nothing to do with this thread but wouldn't it be cool if one of the alternate costumes were a bunch of Pokemon from Pinkin Island? For people who aren't complete Pokemon nerds, Pinkin Island has pinkin berries that turn Pokemon pink.

 

[Dark Ninja]

Infernape and Turtwig will probably just replace Charizard and Chikorita in the pokeballs.

Chikorita has already been confirmed

 

[Jiggy]

Just to try and get an idea of where we stand with characters, would this be a reasonable summary:

[...]

[SEMI-CONFIRMED]

- Peach (appearance in Subspace Emissary cutscene)
- Meta Knight (appearance in multiple Dojo entries and promo material)
- Solid Snake (appearance in promo material)

[POSSIBLE]

- Captain Falcon (appeared in all previous SSB games)
- Ness (appeared in all previous SSB games)

[...]

Any additions or corrections?

I'd move Captain Falcon and Ness into Semi-confirmed. F-Zero and Mother items were finally put into the game; it seems just about unthinkable that, after doing that, they'd remove those series' actual characters.

 

[Zeed]

I'd move Captain Falcon and Ness into Semi-confirmed. F-Zero and Mother items were finally put into the game; it seems just about unthinkable that, after doing that, they'd remove those series' actual characters.

He seems to have reserved the Semi-Confirmed section for characters that have actually made an appearance themselves in some way shape or form - which is wise.

While franchises give us hints about what characters are in, they're not definitive - for instance, Lucas was supposed to replace Ness in Melee until his game got canned. For all we know, now that Lucas' game is out Ness really did get cut and has been replaced. We can't jump the gun on that just yet.

 

[Ravidrath]

In the past, have there been levels that haven't had associated playable characters? I can't think of any, but it's been a while.

That just makes me think we will have a playable AC character or something like that, in addition to Captain Falcon, etc.

 

[bigmakstudios]

Not trying to be mean (I'm still biting my nails over Ganon)

are you fucking joking? he's the fucking antagonist of the zelda series. fuck. >_>

 

[Zeed]

are you fucking joking? he's the fucking antagonist of the zelda series. fuck. >_>

Huh?

In the past, have there been levels that haven't had associated playable characters? I can't think of any, but it's been a while.

That just makes me think we will have a playable AC character or something like that, in addition to Captain Falcon, etc.

No, there has never been a past stage from a game that didn't have a character to match. Some people take that as an indication that there WILL be an AC character...but most of the good ones seem to be taken up by the stage itself. The only plausible AC character left is a generic AC protagonist.

 

[ggnoobIGN]

In the past, have there been levels that haven't had associated playable characters? I can't think of any, but it's been a while.

Well, Final Destination isn't attributed to a game series I don't think. I don't think you were looking for that kind of answer though.

 

[TekunoRobby]

Huh?

He means his inclusion is almost guaranteed.

 

[Nabs]

I think I'm going to avoid this thread until the release in December...


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa who am I kidding

 

[Zeed]

Well, Final Destination isn't attributed to a game series I don't think.=

Bingo, but what he meant was if there was ever a stage that was attributed to a game that did not have a character to match.

 

[ant1532]

Well, Final Destination isn't attributed to a game series I don't think. I don't think you were looking for that kind of answer though.

That's attributed to Smash Bros.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

I was totally not expecting another new character announcement this early after Ike. But you won't hear me complaining!

 

[Nexus Zero]

ganondorf was already confirmed by Aonuma.

Do we know he's not just an assist trophy?

 

[AniHawk]

Do we know he's not just an assist trophy?

He's actually the announcer.

 

[ant1532]

Do we know he's not just an assist trophy?

Did Gaf lose common sense?

 

[Nexus Zero]

He's actually the announcer.

Well that wouldn't be very canonical.

 

[Linkhero1]

Do we know he's not just an assist trophy?

He isn't going to be an assist trophy. How can he go from playable character to assist? I think he's going to be playable but have his own moveset.

 

[mclem]

He's actually the announcer.

Only if you're winning. If you're losing, it's Navi.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

No, there has never been a past stage from a game that didn't have a character to match. Some people take that as an indication that there WILL be an AC character...but most of the good ones seem to be taken up by the stage itself. The only plausible AC character left is a generic AC protagonist.

...except for Resetti, perhaps? He has appeared in the series before - as a trophy in Melee - and it seems that Sakurai is still willing to experiment with unusual playstyles, so surely there's room for a violent mole somewhere in there?

Admittedly, the Pokemon Trainer does make a more generic AC character a bit more likely, but I'm holding out hope for one of the actual town residents.

 

[mclem]

But the other thing is that the old characters are much easier to implement as they already have movesets made for them.

It's quite possible that the moveset could live on but in the form of a new, more relevant character.

 

[ant1532]

I swear. If they put someone in AC in over Olimar.

Olimar better be in the game.

 

[Linkhero1]

I swear. If they put someone in AC in over Olimar.

Olimar better be in the game.

pray for a Pikmin stage

 

[ggnoobIGN]

I was totally not expecting another new character announcement this early after Ike. But you won't hear me complaining!

This makes me think we're going to be in the neighborhood of 45 characters. Blind speculation on my part though.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

I swear. If they put someone in AC in over Olimar.

Olimar better be in the game.

Well, after today I wouldn't be at all surprised if Sakurai & Co. were crazy enough to implement Olimar in a similar way to the Trainer, only commanding dozens of Pikmin instead of Pokemon.

Imagine fighting a swarm of Pikmin that clamber on top of each other to form a humanoid shape. With each increase in the damage meter, the swarm becomes smaller & the "Pik-Man" becomes lighter, so it would be harder to hit as it shrinks, but when a blow connects it does far more damage, tweaking the usual Smash mechanic slightly.

This makes me think we're going to be in the neighborhood of 45 characters. Blind speculation on my part though.

18 characters all but confirmed (including ZSS) and at least another half-dozen very likely to appear, and all this with months to go until release... I'd say the chances of somewhere in the region of 30 fighters is very high unless a number of previous fighters have been cut and few new characters remain.

 

[rollingstart]

I swear. If they put someone in AC in over Olimar.

Olimar better be in the game.

no one from AC is going to be in as a playable character.

Olimar will hopefully atleast be an assist

 

[Shinobix]

AWESOME UPDATE!!

 

[radiuhm]

I think this update was the most suprising one yet, atleast for me. You get to play as freaking Pokemon.

Oh yea, hey Ant did you get Strikers Charged? I'd love to wipe the floor with you on a daily basis :lol .

 

[Firestorm]

I swear. If they put someone in AC in over Olimar.

Olimar better be in the game.

But Nook

 

[DeceitDecide]

But... but... aren't AC characters already ruled out? What'll happen if you use an AC character on the AC stage? Have Nook running around in the foreground and background on the same level??? o_0

 

[Dark Ninja]

But... but... aren't AC characters already ruled out? What'll happen if you use an AC character on the AC stage? Have Nook running around in the foreground and background on the same level??? o_0

theres still the geneic Boy or Girl

 

[Cosmonaut X]

But... but... aren't AC characters already ruled out? What'll happen if you use an AC character on the AC stage? Have Nook running around in the foreground and background on the same level??? o_0

The only AC characters apparently ruled out are the ones who appear in the background of the AC level (so, Brewster, Nook, KK etc.) but even then I believe that someone pointed out that playable characters have appeared in the background of stages previously (can't remember the example given) and there's no reason why Nook couldn't just disappear from the AC background if he was chosen as a playable character on that stage.

 

[MrCheez]

This update was indeed megaton.

Did anyone else look at Charizard and quickly think that Ridley's chances of being playable are more likely? :lol

But... but... aren't AC characters already ruled out? What'll happen if you use an AC character on the AC stage? Have Nook running around in the foreground and background on the same level??? o_0

The background characters on the stage change for every match. It could easily be possible that if someone picked Tom Nook as a fighter (for example), the Tom Nook in the background would not show up for that match.

 

[mclem]

The only AC characters apparently ruled out are the ones who appear in the background of the AC level (so, Brewster, Nook, KK etc.) but even then I believe that someone pointed out that playable characters have appeared in the background of stages previously (can't remember the example given) and there's no reason why Nook couldn't just disappear from the AC background if he was chosen as a playable character on that stage.

Or they could just, well, have two Nooks. It's not like the world explodes when all four players pick Mario, or something.

 

[Zeed]

playable characters have appeared in the background of stages previously (can't remember the example given)

I don't believe this is true. Can someone cite this example? I'm running the stages through my head and can't think of anything.

 

[justchris]

I don't believe this is true. Can someone cite this example? I'm running the stages through my head and can't think of anything.

On the Great Fox, even if both Falco & Fox are being played, there are points with 3 Arwings in the background. And this is before Krystal existed.

 

[jwj442]

IMO, Marth's outfit would have to see some definite changes if they keep him around. They just look too similar. My problem is that I don't play Fire Emblem, so I have a question-- COULD they change Marth's costume and maintain his character? Does he ever wear different clothes in the FE games?

Or is his outfit an integral part of his character, like Mario's overalls and hat or Link's green tunic, etc.? I'm guessing it is, but I'm still curious.

Actually, the most distinctive characteristic of his outfit in the two FE games he's in is his lack of pants.

 

[Big Icarus]

But... but... aren't AC characters already ruled out? What'll happen if you use an AC character on the AC stage? Have Nook running around in the foreground and background on the same level??? o_0

Resetti is not shown in the background.

 

[Zeed]

On the Great Fox, even if both Falco & Fox are being played, there are points with 3 Arwings in the background. And this is before Krystal existed.

That really doesn't mean anything. We're looking at Arwings, not characters - one of them could be piloted by James McCloud for all we know.

 

[Azure Dream]

The background characters on the stage change for every match. It could easily be possible that if someone picked Tom Nook as a fighter (for example), the Tom Nook in the background would not show up for that match.

Tommy and Timmy sub in?

Spoiler

Unless they're available as clones of the Ice Climbers

K.K. Slider seems quite likely to me, maybe witnessing a concert is the requirement to get to challenge him. Perhaps if you have a K.K. in play, the concert just doesn't happen. Or perhaps every version being played jumps up and starts strumming. A quartet of Totakeke performing... naaaah.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Or they could just, well, have two Nooks. It's not like the world explodes when all four players pick Mario, or something.

Don't listen to him!

One or two Marios in a match at most. The Pikmin have a lot of trouble simulating Mario's moveset, three or more Mario's and they catch on fire.

It's disturbing hearing little Pikmin die in a blaze of GPU fire.

 

[Slavik81]

Actually, the most distinctive characteristic of his outfit in the two FE games he's in is his lack of pants.

It's true.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

It's true.

Interesting bulge there.

Hiding rolls of quarters no doubt.

 

[Zeed]

It's true.

Sans the photoshop, is that official art?