So circumcision and non vaccination is child abuse

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The moon would side with me and nasa really couldn’t care less. They have your money and your mind already. 🤭
I don't pay NASA. I also didn't pay for clumsy alt-theories to be spread around the net and finding their way into people who think they are more clever than the scientists that set forth what we now know about the universe.

Some of them still held their religion, too.

OH! so it’s not? 😂 we really are screwed aren’t we. 😞Is your mind so distracted that it can no longer discern what true abuse is?
I haven't commented on the picture yet you are already dropping your conclusions. Interesting.

Personally, i don't like child drag queens or pageant queens. The parents usually would proclaim its what their child would've wanted but i am sincerly doubting this.

Then again, you can say that of any contest to which parents send their kids. Perhaps they, the parents failed at their respective contests and feel they have a second chance with their offspring.

The sad part is, i reckon some parents do this for that reason alone.

How long you think until we’ll see outrage on par with an anti vaxxer or circumcizer?
What does this meta question have to do with your OP?

You do know that you are doing this constantly, right? Derailing your own thread even.

Are you defending not vaccinating here?

Because if so, you’re dumb as shit
Don't forget the moon. I mean, Angular forgets its existence, but lest not forget that!
 
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Don't forget the moon. I mean, Angular forgets its existence, but lest not forget that!
I never said the moon didn’t exist. That would be silly. I said you couldn’t land there. As far as derailing threads go, when you’re having conversations with a group of friends, do you get up and scream and shout when the topic changes? Do you tell them to go make another group a few feet away? No. Normal adults don’t act that way. Not in my circles anyway. 🤷🏾‍♂️
 
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How long you think until we’ll see outrage on par with an anti vaxxer or circumcizer?
See this is a tricky topic. With anti-vaxxing it's only the people that believe in not vaccinating that think it's right. With circumcision, there is a slow movement of public opinion starting to push back against it.

But this is some murky grey area that will have people labeling you as trans-phobic for disagreeing with letting kids do this. It's a kid in drag, posing with a naked person. Remove the context, and it would sound like child exploitation if not child pornography.
 

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See this is a tricky topic. With anti-vaxxing it's only the people that believe in not vaccinating that think it's right. With circumcision, there is a slow movement of public opinion starting to push back against it.

But this is some murky grey area that will have people labeling you as trans-phobic for disagreeing with letting kids do this. It's a kid in drag, posing with a naked person. Remove the context, and it would sound like child exploitation if not child pornography.
context shouldn't factor in. CHILDREN should not be posing in photos with NAKED ADULT MALES. There is nothing transphobic or homophobic about it.
 
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In the mind of some, all three would be “hurting” a child. Many children have lived their lives non vaccinated for thousands of years now. Up until the last 20 years I’d say, who would have complained about getting “less pleasure” from sex by being non circumcised? Although with the decline of belief that one makes sense. The child in the OP will more than likely be altered for life because of choices made by his parents, just like the other two situations (vaccination being on the FAR low end of worries, sorry) but one is now celebrated and one is ridiculed far more than the one celebrated.
 

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I never said the moon didn’t exist. That would be silly. I said you couldn’t land there.
But the moon is round.

And you could land there obviously. See China.

As far as derailing threads go, when you’re having conversations with a group of friends, do you get up and scream and shout when the topic changes?
We aren't in a group of friends, we are in a public forum where you picked a subject as the topic title. Changing the topic is derailing, don't act coy.

What you are describing is a transparent chat like thing, not a forum.

Do you tell them to go make another group a few feet away? No. Normal adults don’t act that way. Not in my circles anyway. 🤷🏾‍♂️
How do you know that you are operating within adult circles? Why aren't they triangles? Or even better, rectangles?


You take a lot of things for fact, my dood.
 

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This is 😂 should I screech for a mod and ask for you to be banned? No. I’m able to handle a few topics at once. 🤷🏾‍♂️
If you literally can't stick to your own topic and feel it deemed to introduce meta-topics, atleast make them coherent to the point. Making random meta-questions is just derailing the topic.
 
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There is literally an entire topic here dedicated to shitting on the pedos doing these underage burlesque/cross-dressing shows. I'm not sure what your point is. Aside from the few guys defending it in the topic, who think grown men throwing money at a sexualized pre-teen is a positive display of "queerness", everyone else thinks it is disgusting and child abuse.
 
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What does this meta question have to do with your OP?
You do know that you are doing this constantly, right? Derailing your own thread even
How long you think until we’ll see outrage on par with an anti vaxxer or circumcizer?
That could have literally been the last sentence of the OP. You just want to argue to argue. That’s not how my posts work. Nice try tho. 👏🏽

everyone else thinks it is disgusting and child abuse.
I just believe it’s a huge mistake to call circumcision or anti vaxxing child abuse when something like the OP is OBVIOUSLY child abuse but I bet this isn’t the last we’ve seen of this family in the media.
 
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context shouldn't factor in. CHILDREN should not be posing in photos with NAKED ADULT MALES. There is nothing transphobic or homophobic about it.
There are people out there saying that it's not a big deal, because other people were around for the photoshoot and everyone is making a big deal about it. Saying shit like "If the kid isn't being abused or fed adult substances it's none of your business. "
 

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That could have literally been the last sentence of the OP. You just want to argue to argue. That’s not how my posts work. Nice try tho. 👏🏽
Why are you repeating your own question?

Hardly, i just want you to make sense for once instead of devolving into meta-question or religious text.

Literally your OP is ''If this is bad, then why is this brave?'' which, wow, contains much depth.

Perhaps an article as to why child drag queens are problematic would suffice?
 

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After such classics such as "the earth is flat" and "education is an illusion" we have another brilliant topic where OP is making the case that "vaccinations are the devil". Has it like ever crossed your mind that people who think vaccinations are generally a very good thing are also opposed to sexualising children like that? But nah, here you are, equating vaccination supporters with child abusers.

My patience is seriously running thin with your constant stream of ignorance that is quite frankly sh*tting up this forum. You are the reason why Christian believers have such a bad reputation, because no matter how reasonable they approach their faith, there's always the likes of you who are peddling the most inane conspiracy theories devoid of even the slightest shred of scientific understanding.

I'm sure there's a cozy little ideological bubble out there on the fringes of the world wide web where you can peddle your bullcrap. Go there and spare us your incredibly ass-backwards worldview.
 
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Has it like ever crossed your mind that people who think vaccinations are generally a very good thing are also opposed to sexualising children like that? But nah, here you are, equating vaccination supporters with child abusers.
This is all backwards. People who are for vaccines would see non vaxxing and the OP as child abuse. I was making a point that there’s a huge difference. Like Red, you just have a beef with me. I don’t care. 😁
 

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This is all backwards. People who are for vaccines would see non vaxxing and the OP as child abuse.
Refusing to vaccinate your kids is needlessly endangering their health and safety. And for what? Merely because your head is so full of sh*t that you'd rather accept endangering your children's health than to educate yourself and rethink your own views.

Gee, I wonder why I might have a "beef" with ignorant people like that.
 
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Does the government own you? Are you a slave? No? Then they can’t mandate what goes into yours or your child’s body. The day they can is the day you no longer are. Is that hard to understand or no? Let’s not forget that in all of the places where it’s becoming harder to get exempted, it was lobbied for by pharma folk and let’s not forget you have almost no recourse if your child is injured from vaccines or that when we were children we needed like 3 and now you need 20. But no. None of that is a problem and I’m the ignorant one. And by “re-educating” you mean falling in line. Got it. Woman can choose to abort life and that’s fine and dandy to the majority but choosing to keep my children from things that have caused harm and damage to others is terrible. Yes yes this all makes sense. I am seeing the light now.
 
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Does the government own you? Are you a slave? No? Then they can’t mandate what goes into yours or your child’s body. The day they can is the day you no longer are. Is that hard to understand or no? Let’s not forget that in all of the places where it’s becoming harder to get exempted, it was lobbied for by pharma folk and let’s not forget you have almost no recourse if your child is injured from vaccines or that when we were children we needed like 3 and now you need 20. But no. None of that is a problem and I’m the ignorant one. And by “re-educating” you mean falling in line. Got it. Woman can choose to abort life and that’s fine and dandy to the majority but choosing to keep my children from things that have caused harm and damage to others is terrible. Yes yes this all makes sense. I am seeing the light now.
From what I am reading here, you sound like an antivaxer.
 
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That could have literally been the last sentence of the OP. You just want to argue to argue. That’s not how my posts work. Nice try tho. 👏🏽



I just believe it’s a huge mistake to call circumcision or anti vaxxing child abuse when something like the OP is OBVIOUSLY child abuse but I bet this isn’t the last we’ve seen of this family in the media.
It is child abuse, but not in the same way. Both are generally not malicious, just misinformed. Circumcision has virtually no benefits, can cause lifelong anxiety and even PTSD, and removes physical sensation from a child without their permission. Vaccination has plenty of documented benefits, like how no children get twisted and deformed by polio in the modern world.

Now, you can argue that children don't grant permission to be vaccinated and thus vaccination is as much a violation of NAP as circumcision is, but your stance on circumcision contradicts that line of logic.
 
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The moon would side with me and nasa really couldn’t care less. They have your money and your mind already. 🤭



OH! so it’s not? 😂 we really are screwed aren’t we. 😞Is your mind so distracted that it can no longer discern what true abuse is? I mean that is photographic evidence. 🤷🏾‍♂️

https://www.dailywire.com/news/4208...ssed-drag-pictured-naked-amanda-prestigiacomo
All I know is that @AngularSaxophone is the only American I’ve ever seen use the phrase “I couldn’t care less” correctly.
 
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From what I am reading here, you sound like an antivaxer.
I believe you should have a choice and I believe pharma companies should be held accountable for bad outcomes. The medical industry obviously doesn’t have our best interests and that’s absolutely nonsense and it’s even more maddening that people are willing to stand up to protect corporations over people.
 
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Does the government own you? Are you a slave?
You are a slave to the nonsense rolling around in your head.

I'd hope you're just playing troll on the Internet. Because I couldn't imagine anyone so steadfast in accumulating every piece of lunacy he can and then holding it as gospel.

Meanwhile, in NYC, unvaccinated kids went to Israel, contracted measles -- a disease we largely eradicated in the 20th century -- and began spreading it around.
 
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I knew kids that got measles when I was a kid. It’s not a big deal. I had chicken pox when I was a kid. Should I sue my mom? Should I sue Merck because they hadn’t invented a vaccine before I was born? No because I’m fine. Stop living in constant fear.
 
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I mean, transgender stuff is almost unassailable right now. I look at that and see it as wrong on a variety of levels but if statistics are correct half of Americans have no problem with it and see it as brave and progressive. I have an ex that has a daughter that is going through gender reassignment at 12, I don’t agree with it but if social media is any indicator both of them are heroes. You dare not say otherwise or risk being called homophobic, potentially damaging your own life.

That being said, vaccination and circumcision are something that doesn’t seem comparable on any level.

Also, take it for what it’s worth but I’ve seen you in other threads and you’re one annoying fucker. Calm down.
 
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I knew kids that got measles when I was a kid. It’s not a big deal. I had chicken pox when I was a kid. Should I sue my mom? Should I sue Merck because they hadn’t invented a vaccine before I was born? No because I’m fine. Stop living in constant fear.
Measles can be fatal. So can chicken pox. That you know people who had it and recovered means nothing. We can talk about more virulent or crippling diseases, or the effect of certain diseases on the elderly and babies if you'd like.

Speaking of fear, why are you afraid of the poison you think the doctors want to inject into you?
 
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I believe you should have a choice and I believe pharma companies should be held accountable for bad outcomes.
If that is what you believe then should parents that refuse to vaccinate their children also be held accountable for the bad outcomes that result from that choice?

The medical industry obviously doesn’t have our best interests and that’s absolutely nonsense and it’s even more maddening that people are willing to stand up to protect corporations over people.
This is a separate and far more complicated issue pertaining the medical–industrial complex. It's also irrelevant to my statement.
 
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Sure. But I’d be willing to bet that there are more cases of parents reassigning/using their children than death or illness from non vaccination. If my child happens to begin getting seriously ill, the first thing I’m doing is taking them to the doctor though so I’m not sure how that would still play out as child abuse. I don’t outright shun medical care. It’s needed at times. I’m not one of those people that will rush to the hospital for a cold or a scrape though. It’s a waste of time and resources.

Can I add something though? I’m all ok for conversation. Even when my views don’t align with some of you, you won’t see me cursing you out or putting you down. You really think you’re going to get someone to align with your thoughts by getting angry? Kinda odd place to direct emotion.
 
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Sure. But I’d be willing to bet that there are more cases of parents reassigning/using their children than death or illness from non vaccination. If my child happens to begin getting seriously ill, the first thing I’m doing is taking them to the doctor though so I’m not sure how that would still play out as child abuse. I don’t outright shun medical care. It’s needed at times. I’m not one of those people that will rush to the hospital for a cold or a scrape though. It’s a waste of time and resources.

Can I add something though? I’m all ok for conversation. Even when my views don’t align with some of you, you won’t see me cursing you out or putting you down. You really think you’re going to get someone to align with your thoughts by getting angry? Kinda odd place to direct emotion.
Your doctor would also recommend vaccination so I fail to see how that is going to work.

You're going to walk in, they're going to recommend a treatment and you're going to stand there and just argue with them yeh?
 
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I believe you should have a choice and I believe pharma companies should be held accountable for bad outcomes.
Fair enough. But also, you should be held accountable if other children get diseases because you didn't vaccinate your kid.

For example, if your kid contracts Chickenpox due to not being vaccinated, transmits Chickenpox to my kid, and my kid dies, then I 100% believe you should be convicted of murder and hopefully executed as well. Gross negligence on your part.
 
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