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ROTS > ROTJ is actually a very widespread opinion. Don't act like this discredits anything.

I tend to view that as the opinion of someone who simply rates ROTS better because it doesn't have a huge Ewok-filled lull in the middle like ROTJ does. ROTS is the movie for people that want better pacing , "dark" themes, and ridiculous setpieces more than emotional payoff, good characters, sensical plotting, etc.
 
I provided some info before you hop in-
  • Luke Skywalker-He does not walk on skys
  • Han Solo-Contrary to his name, he in fact always sticks with his Partner, Chewie
  • Chewbacca(Chewie)-He does not chew nor back up.
  • Princess Leia-She is a playa who sayas the rules. She's cool.
  • Darth Vader-He is not related to the famous musician who shares the same name. I know, I'm disappointed as well.
  • Millenium Falcon-This is neither a bird nor a century
  • The Force-This is Rap
  • The Empires-The good guys, you wanna root for these guys
  • The Rebels-These are the bad guys, they use dirty tactics to confuse the good guys
  • R2-D2-He handles the beats to the force, he's the best of course.
  • C3PO-He gets weird boners

I hope this list helps you out.
 
I tend to view that as the opinion of someone who simply rates ROTS better because it doesn't have a huge Ewok-filled lull in the middle like ROTJ does. ROTS is the movie for people that want better pacing , "dark" themes, and ridiculous setpieces more than emotional payoff, good characters, sensical plotting, etc.

RotS has all three of those and a more interesing plot. RotJ has a first third that's disconnected from the rest of the plot, a second third that's really boring, and a great finale.
 
4,5,6

1,2,3

Clone wars 2d cartoon, clone wars 3d cartoon , rebels


Then 7 in the cinema christmas, then rogue one next christmas, then episode 8 may 2017 and so on
 
I tend to view that as the opinion of someone who simply rates ROTS better because it doesn't have a huge Ewok-filled lull in the middle like ROTJ does. ROTS is the movie for people that want better pacing , "dark" themes, and ridiculous setpieces more than emotional payoff, good characters, sensical plotting, etc.

You say that... but amidst all the issues, ROTS is emotionally the heaviest of the entire series. What other entries in the series deal with a massacre and a personal devolution into anger? Nothing in ESB or the ROTJ throne room is nearly as important. It's not "dark" pretense, it's genuinely more heavily story matter.

Most of ROTJ is Jabba and Ewok stuff, yes. When people confess their love for ROTJ, I think they are talking about the throne room. And if you take a step back, though I love the acting and pacing of the throne room scenes, there's nothing objectively more important about the "will Luke be bad or not?" struggle that is actually more important than the fall of the Jedi and the downfall of a flawed man.

I think if we put aside Ewoks and Hayden's acting and prequel corniness... the events on display in ROTS are emotionally more important.
 
I'm shocked, just shocked to see people suggest anything other than getting your hands on the elusive, hard to find original theatrical releases, trapped on the second disc of an ancient DVD release. There's a reason those original films became a phenomenon and it's the overwritten history of Marcia Lucas, who quite frankly, saved those films, and if you had any idea what the original trilogy was supposed to be - the Prequels and what a nightmare they are end up making perfect sense.

The greatest crime to ever take place in the world of cinema is George Lucas' cult of personality.
 
4, 5, 6, Ewok 1&2.
1, 2, 3
Then start with Clone Wars and Rogue.

Christmas Special can be watched at any point after watching EP4, perhaps at point when series seems to lose it way.
 
Viewing Order:
New Hope
Empire
Jedi
Phantom
Clones
Sith
Plinkett Review of Phantom
Plinkett Review of Clones
Plinkett Review of Sith

WRONG.

You forgot the Plinkett Review of Baby's Day Out. It goes between the reviews of Clones and Sith. The entire review trilogy falls apart without it. Also, there are some promo teaser trailers for each review which are usually canon, and important to the story.
 
I know you've already made a decision, but seeking out the 2006 DVDs with the original cut will be worth it. People say the changes aren't that bad, but some of them really, really are. You'll still get the main points, but don't let anyone kid you into thinking you'll be watching the same movies that everyone went nuts over, because you won't be.

I recommend watching the prequels, but don't watch them as Star Wars movies. Watch them just because they're fascinating displays of inept film-making. The fact that these movies came into being is truly baffling. Millions of dollars of tech and effects combined with z-grade Ed Wood-esque screenwriting and directing. Amazing.
 
Just watched Harmy's Despecialized Empire Strikes Back. Definitely the best movie.

Though it's more of a hassle, seek out the original OT or Harmy's despecialized versions.

Avoid the special editions and prequels.
Quicker, easier, more seductive they are. But not they are not good.
 
Watch in release order.

Don't listen to people who say don't watch the prequels, everyone should watch the prequels and decide for themselves
(everyone deserves equal punishment)

It's that simple.
 
Find as old versions of the movies as possible and enjoy the first three.

You can then skip the prequels, not for "These are not truly Star Wars movies!"-reasons but because they are just bad movies.

Then if possible buy Knights of the Old Republic 2 on GOG or Steam, install The Sith Lords Restored Content mod and enjoy the one unique and best take on the Star Wars universe.
 
It's baffling to me that GAF has so many prequel defenders.

You should avoid them not just because they are bad Star Wars movies that ruin the lore and mystery of the original trilogy, but because they are simply terrible films that would have been colossal failures if not for being called Star Wars.
 
My girlfriend never grew up with Star Wars and only saw them for the first time a few years ago. We recently rewatched them together. She now enjoys them but she's not super into them like I've been since childhood. So as a relatively new fan, here are some of her thoughts:

Watch it in release order. This means if you watched all of them, you watch 4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3.
(4, 5 and 6 were made in the 70s/80s. 1, 2 and 3 are prequels made around the 2000s. 4 originally didn't have a number attached when it was first released (it was just called Star Wars), but the guy who made them put it in at a later time because someday he wanted to make prequels. )

The prequels have some really cool design sometimes but overall are not very good. Treat them as optional, she doesnt care to rewatch them. 4, 5, and 6 are the ones you need to see (especially for the new movie, Abrams repeats that his focus is the original trilogy). Episode 3 is the best of the prequels if you want to be choosy.

She doesn't care about the changes in 4 and 5. However when it comes to 6 (Return of the Jedi), I recently showed her the original version (Harmy Despecialized). She says that the original is way better. Particularly she hated the new dance scene, and she liked the original Vader at the end. She saw the bluray first and the original second and came to this conclusion. Watch the blurays of 4 and 5 if youd like, but go out of your way to get a copy of the original Episode 6.
As previously mentioned, there is a fan version of Episode 6 that uses various sources (including the bluray) to restore the movie to its original form. It is called Harmy's Despecialized Edition.


More great info, thanks. I appreciate you telling me her views, I will definitely take Harmy's Despecialized into consideration.
 
I never bought into this thinking.
He's a petty loner outlaw that cares more about money than doing what's right or just. He gets drawn into a larger conflict and finds the value of friendship and selfless heroism. Whether or not he would shoot first when threatened by bounty hunter who already has a gun pointed at him anyway doesn't change his entire arc. The change Lucas made is dumb and unnecessary, but I don't think it really alters the experience of the character for a first time viewer. I don't think people really came away from that scene thinking that "Wow, Han Solo is a stone-cold murderer"....especially given the context that he's in a bar full of scum and lowlifes. Obi-Wan basically did the same thing when some thug threatened him just a few minutes prior. The film establishes that they are basically in the Wild West, where civilized behavior doesn't necessarily apply since the most moral and upstanding dude in the story has already killed or dismembered some guy in a bar fight.

I can't believe I'm spoiler-tagging stuff for Star Wars, but the original poster said he hasn't seen the originals, so....


That's right! I appreciate the spoiler tags.

It's too bad I won't get to experience, "I am your father" for the first time though :p
 
OP, I mentioned in my first post in the thread that the new canon is relatively small currently so if you do get into Star Wars enough that you want to continue exploring the universe, this is the current list (as much as I can recall off the top of my head) of what is canon. Bolded are things that can be watched, asterisks are for things with currently unsure placement.

PREQUEL ERA
The Phantom Menace (film)
Attack of the Clones (film)
The Clone Wars (animated film)
The Clone Wars (animated tv series)
Crystal Crisis on Utapau (unfinished story reels)
The Bad Batch (unfinished story reels)
Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir (comic)
Dark Disciple (novel)
Revenge of the Sith (film)

INBETWEEN ERA ("The Dark Times")
Kanan (comic)
Lords of the Sith (novel)
Orientation (short story taking place during LotS)
Tarkin (novel)
Before the Force Awakens (Korean webtoon) <- hope you can read Korean for this one
A New Dawn (novel)
Servants of the Empire: Edge of the Galaxy (YA novel)
Rebels shorts (animated tv series shorts)
Ezra's Gamble (YA novel)
Spark of Rebellion (animated tv movie)
Rebels (animated tv series)
Rebels (UK comic)
Servants of the Empire: Rebel in the Ranks (YA novel, concurrent with Rebels tv series)
Servants of the Empire: Imperial Justice (YA novel, concurrent with Rebels tv series)
Rogue One (film)

ORIGINAL TRILOGY ERA
A New Hope (film)
Last Call at the Zero Angle (short story concurrent with ANH)
Princess Leia (comic)
One Thousand Levels Down (short story concurrent with ANH and Princess Leia)
Heir to the Jedi (novel)
Marvel's Star Wars (comic)
Darth Vader (comic)
The End of History (short story)*
Battlefront: Twilight Company (novel)*
The Weapon of a Jedi (YA novel)*
Smuggler's Run (YA novel)*
Lando (comic)*
The Empire Strikes Back (film)
Moving Target (YA novel)
Return of the Jedi (film)
Blade Squadron (short story concurrent with RotJ)
Aftermath (novel)
Shattered Empire (comic)
C-3PO (comic? part of Shattered Empire, I think)
Lost Stars (YA novel, concurrent with OT events and post-RotJ material)


SEQUEL TRILOGY
The Force Awakens (film)


...that seems longer than I thought it would be. But it's much shorter than the old Star Wars expanded universe.


Appreciate the time taken to post this. If I do get into Star Wars enough, I will come back to this post and watch the canon like this! Which is very likely.
 
All options have been laid out multiple times so I'm just adding my suggestion.

Watch in release order. Harmy's Despecialized for the original series if you can get your hands on it and Blu Ray for the prequel series.

Of course I'm biased when it comes to the original trilogy because I have seen one of the early versions plenty of times and I really think they added some unncessary shenanigans over time.

When watching a despecialized version you also get to experience the soundtrack in its purest form and I think that's not a minor aspect.
 
I just watched a bit of Harmy's Despecialized edition. It looks pretty damn spectacular. Anyone know how they did it? How did they edit out the shitty changes while keeping 720p ?

DEFINITELY watch those OP. Just buy the Blurays beforehand if you want to feel better about downloading Harmy's. (fwiw I have the special edition DVD's, but the original transfer on those looks like hot garbage)
 
It's baffling to me that GAF has so many prequel defenders.

You should avoid them not just because they are bad Star Wars movies that ruin the lore and mystery of the original trilogy, but because they are simply terrible films that would have been colossal failures if not for being called Star Wars.

GAF probably has a lot of members that grew up on the Prequels by this point.
 
Get the Bluray.

Watch in original release order (4, 5, 6, 1, 2, 3).

Ignore all the fanboy drama.

Enjoy.



As for the changes, some are debatable, but none are major. It's not going to make any of the films unwatchable.

Reposting because this is the best info here. It's the route my wife and I are taking because she had never seen Star Wars until a few months back (we're now ready to watch 2 and 3). She is enjoying the movies a bunch and is excited for 7. No reason to get caught up in the drama associated with remakes, remasters, and prequels. If you're fresh to the series, just watch whichever versions you can because it makes no fucking difference in the grand scheme of things.
 
OP, the most important thing for you to hear is this: report back to us your impressions of each one!

And everyone else: don't be dumb and spoilery when he does.

And yeah, do what the majority here are saying... Originals, then prequels. Then Clone Wars and Rebels. The prequels do suck, but they'll probably actually suck less for you than they did for us because you didn't have to wait your whole childhood for them, building up your expectations. In fact, I imagine your expectations of them are probably rock bottom at this point, so you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. And really, even though the script, direction and illogical plot are wildly problematic, enough years have passed I can admit they have some great iconography. Fifteen years on, I guess I do actually have some nostalgia for some of the most memorable imagery, sounds and set pieces.

Anyway, start with Episode 4: A New Hope, enjoy and keep checking in with us!
 
If I could do it over again and watch them all for the first time, I'd tell someone to just not watch the prequels. 1 is awful, 2 is slightly better, 3 is pretty good. But the OT is so much better, it's really not worth the sour taste in your mouth.

And I'd probably watch the Despecialized Edition of the OT. I hate the changes Lucas made to the OT.
 
OP, I mentioned in my first post in the thread that the new canon is relatively small currently so if you do get into Star Wars enough that you want to continue exploring the universe, this is the current list (as much as I can recall off the top of my head) of what is canon. Bolded are things that can be watched, asterisks are for things with currently unsure placement.

PREQUEL ERA
The Phantom Menace (film)
Attack of the Clones (film)
The Clone Wars (animated film)
The Clone Wars (animated tv series)
Crystal Crisis on Utapau (unfinished story reels)
The Bad Batch (unfinished story reels)
Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir (comic)
Dark Disciple (novel)
Revenge of the Sith (film)

INBETWEEN ERA ("The Dark Times")
Kanan (comic)
Lords of the Sith (novel)
Orientation (short story taking place during LotS)
Tarkin (novel)
Before the Force Awakens (Korean webtoon) <- hope you can read Korean for this one
A New Dawn (novel)
Servants of the Empire: Edge of the Galaxy (YA novel)
Rebels shorts (animated tv series shorts)
Ezra's Gamble (YA novel)
Spark of Rebellion (animated tv movie)
Rebels (animated tv series)
Rebels (UK comic)
Servants of the Empire: Rebel in the Ranks (YA novel, concurrent with Rebels tv series)
Servants of the Empire: Imperial Justice (YA novel, concurrent with Rebels tv series)
Rogue One (film)

ORIGINAL TRILOGY ERA
A New Hope (film)
Last Call at the Zero Angle (short story concurrent with ANH)
Princess Leia (comic)
One Thousand Levels Down (short story concurrent with ANH and Princess Leia)
Heir to the Jedi (novel)
Marvel's Star Wars (comic)
Darth Vader (comic)
The End of History (short story)*
Battlefront: Twilight Company (novel)*
The Weapon of a Jedi (YA novel)*
Smuggler's Run (YA novel)*
Lando (comic)*
The Empire Strikes Back (film)
Moving Target (YA novel)
Return of the Jedi (film)
Blade Squadron (short story concurrent with RotJ)
Aftermath (novel)
Shattered Empire (comic)
C-3PO (comic? part of Shattered Empire, I think)
Lost Stars (YA novel, concurrent with OT events and post-RotJ material)


SEQUEL TRILOGY
The Force Awakens (film)


...that seems longer than I thought it would be. But it's much shorter than the old Star Wars expanded universe.

Incredible work there, it's really fun tracking this whole new canonical shared universe.
 
It's baffling to me that GAF has so many prequel defenders.

You should avoid them not just because they are bad Star Wars movies that ruin the lore and mystery of the original trilogy, but because they are simply terrible films that would have been colossal failures if not for being called Star Wars.

You've made a good case for avoiding episode 6 as well.
 
Release order. Nothing in the prequels makes any sense if you haven't seen the original movies. Just watch them in that order and then base your opinion off that. The Blu-Rays should be fine, but if you want to watch the closest thing to the theatrical releases, check out the Despecialized Editions.

Only after watching all the movies, probably more than one time a piece, would checking out Plinkett reviews, expanded universe stuff, and the cartoons mean anything or make any sense. Just enjoy the movies in release order.
 
If you're in for an interesting experience there's a scan from 35mm reels of Empire Strikes Back complete with a trailer reel featuring trailers from films such as Superman 2 and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Just look for ESB Renegade Grindhouse on Google. The colors are faded and there are a lot of scratches, but unlike the Despecialized version it is in 1080p and it looks surprisingly good.
 
I'll have to say this OP, after you watch all the movies. Walks to the mall are going to be really different, your eyes will gravitate towards Star Wars merchandise. Happened to my after playing Force Unleashed. Disney has a Gold Mine.
 
OP, all you need to do is to watch them in release order. If you haven't been caught up in any of the changes that have been made to the OT, then it likely won't effect your experience to a significant degree. The PT is significantly worse, but there's some nice stuff in there. Plus, as someone who is only just coming into the series, you shouldn't suffer from the hype backlash that those films did to the same extent.

If you really like the series, see aforementioned advice on Clone Wars and Rebels, but make sure you watch the films first.
 
Never watched Star Wars? Here's the order to how to view the saga:

Episode 4 - A New Hope
Episode 5 - Empire Strikes Back
Episode 6 - Return of the Jedi
Episode 1 - Phantom Menace
Episode 2 - Attack of the Clones
Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith
RedLetterMedia Plinket Review for Phantom Menace
RedLetterMedia Plinket Review for Attack of the Clones
RedLetterMedia Plinket Review for Revenge of the Sith
Watch "The Force Awakens" trailers until Christmas

Yes I'm suggesting you watch the prequels, because they'll give you a better appreciation for what the original trilogy did right and also give you a better appreciation for what (it appears) The Force Awakens is doing properly. While I'm suggesting you watch the Plinket reviews of the prequels (because they are both entertaining and are very well done breakdowns of what those movies did wrong) I'd still suggest you form your own opinion of the prequels first before watching Plinket.

Sephzilla's ranking of each Star Wars movie
1) Empire Strikes Back
2) Return of the Jedi
3) A New Hope
4) Revenge of the Sith
5) Phantom Menace
6) Attack of the Clones
 
I think if you go into A New Hope with the mindset that it's the biggest fluke in cinematic history, rather than thinking it will be some brilliantly thought out and expertly crafted thing, then you'll be well prepared. Empire Strikes Back is a legit good film though.
 
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