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[Nephtis]

The weird thing is there's always some other beers to start, a lot of different ones, but it's always bud light at the end of the night without fail.

Bud light has replaced Tecate.

I used to love Tecate, but it's become such a shit beer in the last 10 years or so. I'm actually a lot more appreciative of Negra Modelo or Blue Moon.

Is it bad that I laughed?

Nah, when I used to go to parties as a kid me and some friends would sometimes yell la migra and people would run in all directions.. lol

one time they did come though. I knew a few of them by name since I saw them so much.

 

[tiebreaker]

No. It's a themed party, not a cultural celebration. Do Sombrero and poncho have negative connotation? If not, then it's fine.

 

[alfredofroylan]

Is it bad that I laughed?

Nah, I laughed too. BTW remember kids, if the sombrero has felt and sequin it's a mariachi hat.

 

[RowdyReverb]

No. It's a themed party, not a cultural celebration. Do Sombrero and poncho have negative connotation? If not, then it's fine.

It's clearly the mustache that takes things too far, which is a sentence I don't think I've ever used before.
It really boils down to whether or not Mexicans having mustaches is a negative stereotype in your eyes

 

[Jzero]

shut up.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Reminded me of this lol.

Ok I laughed haha.

 

[kess]

I wonder what a "white themed" party would look like.

St. Patrick's?

 

[Sub_Level]

I wonder what a "white themed" party would look like.

Like a normal Halloween party.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

I wonder what a "white themed" party would look like.

People kissing their dog.

 

[Zero315]

If it's just like a food themed thing, then no.

If there are stereotypical costumes, then yes.

Sounds like yes.

And fuck off with the whole "You can't be racist against a country" bullshit. If that's true then I guess Trump isn't a racist like everyone's been saying.

 

[Steel]

As a dominican: no. I'd equate it to people dressing up like a samurai for a costume party. It's w/e.

I wonder what a "white themed" party would look like.

I can imagine people in other countries having redneck "'MURICA" themed parties with american flags everywhere(including clothing) as a stereotype.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

People kissing their dog.

and watching Friends while eating mayonnaise.

 

[GhostWriter24]

Can we not instantly designate everything as racist? I mean, FUCK.

 

[Avixph]

As a dominican: no. I'd equate it to people dressing up like a samurai for a costume party. It's w/e.

But you're Dominican.

 

[Steel]

But you're Dominican.

Sorry?

I suppose there's the point that you won't find any Domican themed parties, but... Yeah.

 

[Avixph]

Sorry?

It wasn't that necessary to state that ;-P

I suppose there's the point that you won't find any Domican themed parties, but... Yeah.

If there was would the party consist of people dressed like baseball players.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

If it's just like a food themed thing, then no.

If there are stereotypical costumes, then yes.

Sounds like yes.

let's follow that line of logic

why would it be ok if it was food themed? wouldn't that be appropriating Mexican food. Why draw the line at just costumes? Nah man if you're going to go down that route, don't appropriate mexican food.

 

[exmachina64]

Dammit, I answered no in the poll and I meant to answer yes.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

If they aren't being respectful of the culture (and it seems like they aren't what with the mustaches and all), then I would say it's racist.

 

[Steel]

It wasn't that necessary to state that ;-P


If there was would the party consist of people dressed like baseball players.

Just salty that Mexico's always in the spotlight, dammit!

In all seriousness, though, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who assume I'm either Mexican or Cuban and ask questions like this. People pretty much default to "you're Hispanic so how do you feel about..."

In the end it's just a kneejerk reaction to comment that I'm Domican in topics like this even if it's not technically relevant.

 

[Dai101]

Is it bad that I laughed?

An actual documentary of an actual Mexican party, in this case a Quinceañera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJD5bTcYBpQ

 

[Zero315]

let's follow that line of logic

why would it be ok if it was food themed? wouldn't that be appropriating Mexican food. Why draw the line at just costumes? Nah man if you're going to go down that route, don't appropriate mexican food.

So you don't see a difference between a party where Mexican food is served and this?

 

[Avixph]

Just salty that Mexico's always in the spotlight, dammit!

In all seriousness, though, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who assume I'm either Mexican or Cuban and ask questions like this. People pretty much default to "you're Hispanic so how do you feel about..."

In the end it's just a kneejerk reaction to comment that I'm Domican in topics like this even if it's not technically relevant.

No problem, most people think that I'm either from Puerto Rico or from somewhere in Central/ South America by the way I look and speak Spanish.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

So you don't see a difference between a party where Mexican food is served and this?

Appropriation is appropriation.

Again, I'm arguing your logic-Costumes are appropriation but not food? Come on now. personally I don't care if someone wheres a Sombrero or Poncho, but you don't get to pick and choose what you consider appropriation.

 

[Zero315]

Appropriation is appropriation.

Again, I'm arguing your logic-Costumes are appropriation but not food? Come on now. personally I don't care if someone wheres a Sombrero or Poncho, but you don't get to pick and choose what you consider appropriation.

I'm not arguing appropriation, nowhere in my original post did I even talk about appropriation. I'm talking about harmful stereotypes.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Eses chill

 

[Ishida]

So you don't see a difference between a party where Mexican food is served and this?

I'm mexican.

What exactly is wrong with some pretty girls wearing sombreros and sporting awesome mustaches?

I'm actually flattered. They look great.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I'm not arguing appropriation, nowhere in my original post did I even talk about appropriation. I'm talking about harmful stereotypes.

They go hand in hand. If it's a Mexican themed party, if they're just wearing ponchos and sombreros, then it doesn't sound like they're looking to actively offend through stereotyping. Unless OP comes back and says 'Yeah they were mocking Mexicans all day' then that's different. If they wear a cute little mustache and sombrero? Eh, it's just a costume.

 

[Indignate]

As a Mexican who can hardly grow facial hair, I'm kind of offended that some people think it only crosses the line at the mustache.

To answer the question seriously, I really don't care unless they were doing racist things.

 

[Ishida]

They go hand in hand. If it's a Mexican themed party, if they're just wearing ponchos and sombreros, then it doesn't sound like they're looking to actively offend through stereotyping. Unless OP comes back and says 'Yeah they were mocking Mexicans all day' then that's different. If they wear a cute little mustache and sombrero? Eh, it's just a costume.

Agreed. I don't see the insult.

I don't know, perhaps mexicans have a thicker skin for these kind of things, but I see that picture, and I actually want to join them with my own sombrero, and start singing some mariachi songs.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Fake Mustaches seems like a bridge too far. Might have slid right under the bar with out that.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

I would love to see Mexicans throw a white themed party throwing a Mexican themed party, that would be hilarious.

 

[Einchy]

no mames guey

 

[studyguy]

I would love to see Mexicans throw a white themed party throwing a Mexican themed party, that would be hilarious.

Nah it sounds dumb. I like our parties as they are.

 

[ghostofsparta]

Agreed. I don't see the insult.

I don't know, perhaps mexicans have a thicker skin for these kind of things, but I see that picture, and I actually want to join them with my own sombrero, and start singing some mariachi songs.

Sure I agree, wearing the costume is not inherently racist.

I would bet though, that the woman in the picture (or anyone throwing a Mexican themed party) do harbor some racist thoughts, or at the very least do nothing about systematic racism/colorism.

I might be stereotyping tho.

 

[Zero315]

They go hand in hand. If it's a Mexican themed party, if they're just wearing ponchos and sombreros, then it doesn't sound like they're looking to actively offend through stereotyping. Unless OP comes back and says 'Yeah they were mocking Mexicans all day' then that's different. If they wear a cute little mustache and sombrero? Eh, it's just a costume.

I'm not actually offended, because white people gonna white people. But I'm saying there's a way to do it while still being respectful and not resorting to dressing up like stereotypes. Appreciate the culture, don't try to be it.

 

[dottme]

I wonder what a "white themed" party would look like.

You've already got a lot of example, but something like this:

 

[VendettaRed07]

As a Mexican who can hardly grow facial hair, I'm kind of offended that some people think it only crosses the line at the mustache.

To answer the question seriously, I really don't care unless they were doing racist things.

I'm not mexican so I suppose I don't get to decide what about this is offensive or not, but I could understand that it would be a line crosser for some based on that it isn't really clothing and is only worn to enhance a caricature or stereotype rather than celebrate traditional cultural items or delicacies

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I'm not actually offended, because white people gonna white people. But I'm saying there's a way to do it while still being respectful and not resorting to dressing up like stereotypes. Appreciate the culture, don't try to be it.

Personally if I had my way

Everyone would wear a sombrero and have a thick, black, mustache.

That would be appreciating enough

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I think it's possible to go to a themed party like this and not be complete jackasses about it.

If you're enjoying some music from Mexico, drinking Coronas, and dressing up a bit and dancing, that's not inherently malicious. Insensitive, perhaps.

It'd be another thing to dress up as day laborer and use a fake accent pretending you can't speak English.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Like my line of thought in this regard is

If we're sharing our cultures, even the most superficial things, then that's a-ok. If someone wants to host a oktoberfest party or a cowboy party or a mexican themed party, that's ok too.

 

[Mechazawa]

Where is the line drawn just out of curiosity? Which of these are ok, not ok? Is it only ok if you share heritage with the theme etc.?

Ancient Greece
Roman
Viking or Germanic Tribes
Ancient or Feudal Japan
Ancient China
Native American
Ancient Egyptian

Is it basically only offensive if it's still being practiced by a culture, or still a strong part of their cultural identity therefore appropriation or...?

Pretty much yeah.

There's no hard and fast rule, but what I bolded probably takes priority. Like, of all the things you listed, if someone decided to go as an "Indian"(read: Native American) to a costume themed party, they would look like a complete fucking tool.

On the flipside, if a bunch of white people decided to make a Mexican themed party that was conscious to actual Mexican traditions and food, that would be totally fine. I could see a primary school doing something like that, for example.

Instead, OP went to a party where a bunch of jerkoffs are eating hardshell tacos, putting on Sombreros and drinking Dos Equis.

 

[Evening Musuko]

I'm Mexican (Mexican-American to be precise) and the whole sombrero, fake mustache and poncho thing is just lazy tbh.

I dunno, I've been to parties held by mexicans in both the US and Mexico and I tend to see more cowboy hats and boots than those big ass sombreros. Hell, even more baseball caps than sombreros. Plenty of mustaches, but it's not a requirement.

The reality is, Mexico is a huge and diverse country and if you're really serious about throwing a Mexican themed party, you can do more than just old stereotypes.

 

[The Kree]

They did these kinds of things in elementary school. It was just food and history exhibits though, and some story telling. No music or costumes.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

I'm Mexican (Mexican-American to be precise) and the whole sombrero, fake mustache and poncho thing is just lazy tbh.

I dunno, I've been to parties held by mexicans in both the US and Mexico and I tend to see more cowboy hats and boots than those big ass sombreros. Hell, even more baseball caps than sombreros. Plenty of mustaches, but it's not a requirement.

The reality is, Mexico is a huge and diverse country and if you're really serious about throwing a Mexican themed party, you can do more than just old stereotypes.

Stereotypical Mexican.

 

[BBQMan]

No. But you should leave anyway since your first thought was to go on your phone and post on Neogaf. If you cant have fun just leave would be better for everyone involved.

 

[Evening Musuko]

Stereotypical Mexican.

Heh.

Most non-mexicans can't understand that we're not lazy, we're just very TRANQUILO

 

[jmelons]

I'm Mexican (Mexican-American to be precise) and the whole sombrero, fake mustache and poncho thing is just lazy tbh.

I dunno, I've been to parties held by mexicans in both the US and Mexico and I tend to see more cowboy hats and boots than those big ass sombreros. Hell, even more baseball caps than sombreros. Plenty of mustaches, but it's not a requirement.

The reality is, Mexico is a huge and diverse country and if you're really serious about throwing a Mexican themed party, you can do more than just old stereotypes.

Lazy? You're looking at it the wrong way. They aren't trying to celebrate our culture or heritage. They just want to get shitfaced; much like Cinco de Mayo or St. Patty's Day. No Irish man walks around saying "all you're doing is wearing green and getting drunk. So lazy." I doubt any of the party-goers were strenuously combing through a Mexican History book to make sure their attire accurately matched the time period/culture. It's just people having fun.

 

[ChrisD]

Like my line of thought in this regard is

If we're sharing our cultures, even the most superficial things, then that's a-ok. If someone wants to host a oktoberfest party or a cowboy party or a mexican themed party, that's ok too.

Or a MexOktoBoy party for the ultimate time.

I'm not Mexican so I can't speak on this with much weight, but I think so long as people weren't actually saying racist stuff or pulling out the fake accents it'd be fine? The mustaches are eeeehh in my eyes, but again, I can't speak fully on that. But going to a good few get-togethers hosted by Mexican families in my life, I've not actually seen many mustaches. There's like three guys, nobody else out of over a dozen. Main reason I think that's a bit unnecessary.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

non-malicious racism and mexicans probably wouldn't give a flying fuck since they would probably laugh and shit

not worse than say speedy gonzalez