Rayven_king
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I told my friend I couldnt finish iron fist, his movements are too stiff for me to take him seriously as some sort of martial arts grandmaster
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So is the age of Hong Kong action stars almost over?
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I told my friend I couldnt finish iron fist, his movements are too stiff for me to take him seriously as some sort of martial arts grandmaster
giancarlo123x
Banned
Death by 1000 cuts.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Why is there a cut every fucking second or sometimes before a second is even finished?
Herr Schwarz
Banned
In order to prevent kids from looking at their phones?
Maybe a subtle commentary on ADD?
More_Badass
Member
After seeing stuff like The Raid, John Wick, South Korean thrillers, and video essays on channels like Every Frame about fight choregraphy, cut heavy fights like that are just so damn jarring. I used to not notice or really care, but now it's so noticeable every time a movie or show does that
Extra Sauce
Member
When will Canada's time come?
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Martial arts films in general just aren't what they used to be. We'll never see anything on the level of Jackie vs Benny the Jet again, I'm certain.
With all those movies, you'd think they would dial back the heavy edited fight scenes in them ore recent offerings.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Fight choreography peaked with Jackie Chan for me. There's other good stuff out there, but Jackie's movies spoke to my soul.
Warm Machine
Member
Give me a budget.
Then again a lot of Hollywood movies are made in Canada productions.
Extra Sauce
Member
The problem with Canada's film industry is that the top talent tends to migrate to Hollywood pretty quickly once successful.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Yup the raid fucked me when it comes to action films now. Really the only big budget Hollywood movies that have good action scenes besides john wick is the ... brothers. Can't remember there name but they made winter soilder and are making infinity war. The fight with iron man, Bucky, and captain America at the end of civil war was raid tier in my opinion.
Also: damn Jackie chan is looking fucking good for his age.
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Martial arts films in general just aren't what they used to be. We'll never see anything on the level of Jackie vs Benny the Jet again, I'm certain.
Indonesia makes some incredible martial arts films. The kitchen fight at the end of The Raid 2 is on and beyond the level of the scene you posted.
BattleMonkey
Member
Headshot was awful, it was like want to be Raid, but nowhere as good in any category. The fight choreography was really spotty too, a few cool moments, but also sloppy
Indonesia made like 3 incredible movies, that isn't much of a trend.
Pretty much, it's moved to other countries at this point (or some might say other countries have "caught up"). There are still stars, certainly, (Donnie Yen, my man, and Chan still gets stuff made) but I couldn't tell you who the "figurehead" of Hong Kong action or martial arts is at the moment in terms of filmmaker and director or even producer, especially someone that might be moving it forward. There's no upstart "hot shot" that I know of like a Sammo Hung or John Woo in the 1980s and, thus, no new stars.
I liked what little I saw of Wu Jing, but I don't know of any good recent action movies starring him. I only saw a movie or two that starred him, and they were all very B-tier fare, despite him looking very good in fight scenes. The movies themselves just aren't very good movies.
I thought it was more like Benny didn't really know how to pull his punches in a way that still looked good on camera, so he kept accidentally hitting Jackie for real? And that caused some friction between them. Something like that.
Damn, Jet Li looks old now.
Well Jet Li, Donnie Yen, and Wu Jing just shot a short film together so it's alive at least till the middle of 2018.
Space Runaway
Member
Yeah it really doesn't feel like they have any serious contenders and haven't for awhile.
It was cool seeing Donnie Yen finally get his due and pushed as one of the main faces of HK cinema for awhile, but it doesn't feel like they have anyone particularly standout to push after him.
It was cool seeing Donnie Yen finally get his due and pushed as one of the main faces of HK cinema for awhile, but it doesn't feel like they have anyone particularly standout to push after him.
archangelmorph
Member
What's Tony Jaa up to these days?
Chairmanchuck
Member
While he is a great actor, he seems to be one of the most hated ones in HK cinema due to his huge ego.
I personally think that the reason he isnt starring in as many films as he actually could because of that. So many directors said they wouldnt work with him again. One movie he was supposed to act in there were 2 main actors/protagonist, but Donnie Yen didnt like it and said sth. like "Its either only me or I wont star in it!"
He and Donnie Yen are the same age. People have stated here, Jet Li is from mainland China and mainland China don't care. Wu Jing is like 10 years younger than those guys.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
its all about comic book/super hero stuff now.
He is doing a lot of Hong Kong movie now, dude has been busy with Hong Kong's greats on Twitter, Sammo Hung, Jet Li, Yuan Biao, etc...
WaterAstro
Member
Hong Kong culture is dead.
No one even talks about Cantonese food as a cuisine anymore. It's all about Shanghai food.
No one even talks about Cantonese food as a cuisine anymore. It's all about Shanghai food.
digita1alchemy
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Finky Spunky
Banned
Looking forward to The Foreigner. Also Bruce Lee just had a movie
kidtamagotchi
Member
I know you said it was your opinion, but to me it paled in comparison to anything in The Raid.
It really is too bad that it's pop stars who are starring in movies in Hong Kong nowadays. With special effects now taking precedence in Hong Kong/Chinese film, to the Chinese audience, they don't want human highlight reels anymore. It really sucks for martial arts movie fans. :/
matrix-cat
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Oh dude, last time I heard about this movie it was 'just' Iko, Tony Jaa and Tiger Chen. Now they've got Scott Adkins, Michael Jai White and Jeeja Yanin, too? This is like an Avengers movie of every current action star
Frozenprince
Banned
Martial arts films have been basically dead for the better part of two decades now.
HK cinema for even longer, the Mainland is where the money, talent, and quality films come from now.
Martial arts flicks are my favorites so I hope they make a comeback.
HK cinema for even longer, the Mainland is where the money, talent, and quality films come from now.
Martial arts flicks are my favorites so I hope they make a comeback.
More_Badass
Member
You don't count the South Korean and now the Indonesian films we've gotten in the last decade?
Frozenprince
Banned
They are there but barely register as a blip. Obviously The Raid and Raid 2 are fucking impeccable, but aside from Ong Bak and Jaa's other mid-00's output Thai and Indonesian films haven't had any real penetration at all.
Korean films are more action thrillers now with the occasional throw in of wuxia or martial arts (Just watched Kundo again the other day). But they lack the... for lack of a better word, soul, of HK martial arts films.
UnemployedVillain
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Well Jet Li, Donnie Yen, and Wu Jing just shot a short film together so it's alive at least till the middle of 2018.
Holy shit. I was like "Who is that old dude?" then I read Jet Li and did a double take. He looks so old now
Frozenprince
Banned
Holy shit. I was like "Who is that old dude?" then I read Jet Li and did a double take. He looks so old now
I see pictures of Sammo, Yuen Biao and Jackie standing together and fell ancient so don't feel bad.
Sammo Hung or Kim Jong Un?
matrix-cat
Member
It's rare for bigger movies to be about nothing but martial arts thesedays, but there are still plenty of great ones out there in the straight-to-DVD world these days. Scott Adkins makes like four a year
Love that guy. I can't remember which Undisputed movie this gif is from, but honestly Undisputed 2, 3 and 4 are all great watches. Wonderful choreography, camerawork and athleticism, and even more wonderful cheesy Russian accents.
Love that guy. I can't remember which Undisputed movie this gif is from, but honestly Undisputed 2, 3 and 4 are all great watches. Wonderful choreography, camerawork and athleticism, and even more wonderful cheesy Russian accents.
More_Badass
Member
Well this finally got me to start checking out Chan's films like I had been planning to a few months back. Rented Rumble In The Bronx and the first three Police Stories, and Drunken Master 2 is on NetflixMartial arts films in general just aren't what they used to be. We'll never see anything on the level of Jackie vs Benny the Jet again, I'm certain.
Edit: another great GIF courtesy of SunhiLegend
GOAT action star.
Benny would have fucking destroyed Jackie in a real fight. Dude was a legendary pro kickboxer.
That's the story I've heard. I know the part where Jackie rubs his nose is because Benny accidentally booped him.
Frozenprince
Banned
Oh god his late 70's early 80's work is a pure treat, you'll love them. Just the right mix of "JESUS CHRIST" level action before he became more of a comedic action star, which isn't a BAD thing to transition too but, my word is his early work good.
Young Master and it's spiritual sequel Dragon Lord are a fantastic 1/2 punch.
Giant Robot
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Yuen Biao never gets any love, so here's a Yuen Biao gif:
matrix-cat
Member
Police Story 1 and 2 are my personal favourites, but you really can't go wrong with '80s and '90s Jackie. He's the greatest action star who has ever or likely will ever live.
Don't sleep on his early stuff, too, like The Young Master, Snake in Eagle's Shadow, Drunken Master 1. The action is stilted, which was the style of the time, but Jackie's choreography is absolutely insane. I can't get through those movies without having to stop and rewind like ten times every fight scene because almost every single shot is some ridiculous stunt that must have needed like thirty takes to get perfect
Frozenprince
Banned
Yuen Biao never gets any love, so here's a Yuen Biao gif:
He's still my favorite of the three.
matrix-cat
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Frozenprince
Banned
Police Story 1 and 2 are my personal favourites, but you really can't go wrong with '80s and '90s Jackie. He's the greatest action star who has ever or likely will ever live.
Don't sleep on his early stuff, too, like The Young Master, Snake in Eagle's Shadow, Drunken Master 1. The action is stilted, which was the style of the time, but Jackie's choreography is absolutely insane. I can't get through those movies without having to stop and rewind like ten times every fight scene because almost every single shot is some ridiculous stunt that must have needed like thirty takes to get perfect
His earlier work is better because it's not all designed around fucking ridiculous stunts. It's just creative fighting.
-Plasma Reus-
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What the fuck is this bullshit?
With the history of Kung Fu films, and a decent budget, how do you fuck up that bad? Shit, Daredevil had better MA scenes.
Yuen Biao never gets any love, so here's a Yuen Biao gif:
That movie with him and Cynthia Rothrock is still one of my all time favorites.
Righting Wrongs. Yeah Yuen Biao rocked. Eastern Condors, Prodigal son, etc, etc.
KernelPanic
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Scott Buck