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So we've reached the point where it's pretty much unquestionable that 2023 is the greatest year ever in gaming, right?
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analog_future
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The Infectious Paradox
Gold Member
I'm not saying it's the best, but it's definitely what we God damn needed after the last 2 years minimum
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
Member
Normally, I'd say hard NO, in favor of 2001 where GTA3, FFX, Devil May Cry, and MGS2 were all released.
That said, this year has been really strong and while some of the titles listed in the OP are just noise, I can't help but think maybe nostalgia is creating a bias.
FF16
ToTK
BG3
Starfield
Phantom Liberty
Spider-Man 2
SMB Wonder
Armored Core VI
These titles alone make for a pretty strong case for one of the best years for gaming in a good long while. A new Zelda, Mario, and FF in one year?!
And BG3...I'll sayless.
That said, this year has been really strong and while some of the titles listed in the OP are just noise, I can't help but think maybe nostalgia is creating a bias.
FF16
ToTK
BG3
Starfield
Phantom Liberty
Spider-Man 2
SMB Wonder
Armored Core VI
These titles alone make for a pretty strong case for one of the best years for gaming in a good long while. A new Zelda, Mario, and FF in one year?!
And BG3...I'll sayless.
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arkhamguy123
Member
This
nial
Gold Member
Jak 3? Now that is some filler, alright...
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
I've had a lot more fun this year than any year previously that's for sure. Been having lots of fun playing new releases
Tedditalk
Member
I think it pretty much is. Born in 1997, and been gaming since the 2000s. I think this topic really gonna showcase an age divide more than anything. There is something to be said though about innovation, as gaming hit a wall in design at the start of PS4 era (arguably late ps3) and has not really progress past that point.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Ocarina of Time
Metal Gear Solid
Symphony of the Night
Gran Turismo
StarCraft (and Brood War)
Half-Life
Pokémon Red/Blue
Baldur's Gate
Fallout 2
Grim Fandango
Final Fantasy Tactics
Thief
Unreal
SHOGO
Banjo Kazooie
Resident Evil 2
Parasite Eve
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Xenogears
Suikoden II
Myth II (RIP your C:\ drive)
Starsiege: Tribes
Tekken 3
Dreamcast (Japan)
Sonic Adventure
/thread
Metal Gear Solid
Symphony of the Night
Gran Turismo
StarCraft (and Brood War)
Half-Life
Pokémon Red/Blue
Baldur's Gate
Fallout 2
Grim Fandango
Final Fantasy Tactics
Thief
Unreal
SHOGO
Banjo Kazooie
Resident Evil 2
Parasite Eve
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Xenogears
Suikoden II
Myth II (RIP your C:\ drive)
Starsiege: Tribes
Tekken 3
Dreamcast (Japan)
Sonic Adventure
/thread
YeulEmeralda
Member
The very fact that they are remaking/remastering games from the past is proof that they are not just nostalgia. Apparently there's something timeless about Silent Hill and MGS that still works.
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
No, you actually said this:
My first post was only responding to you saying basically every year before 2018 was better than 2023 which I thought was a ridiculous statement You took great offense to my reply and lumped me in with 'you people' and those who say 'take off the nostalgia glasses' if you like a game more than a year old, whoever those people may be. Taking a hint from you, I then lumped you into an 'everything sucks now' guy group. You again took great offense to that characterization, completely failing to see the irony. And continued deflecting giving an actual defense for most every gaming year being better than 2023 (the only thing I ever took issue with) while constantly doing personal attacks instead.
Well, I stand by it being a completely ridiculous statement, one you haven't backed up in a single way. BUT coming back now and summing up our little interaction like you only ever said
is a pretty amazing deflection and reducing your point to something that no one would have argued with in the first place. If only you had actually said that originally. Sorry, you're a decent salesman, but I ain't buying.
Right back at you, sir.
wipeout364
Member
I never said anything bad about the remakes I love them too. My point is that a remake/sequel is not something I would use to define the greatest year in gaming if all we are doing is recycling content.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Nah. Look up 1998. The year Half Life and Ocarina of Time came out. That was a year for gaming. Where titles could get released and completely change what people thought the limits of video games were. Metal Gear, Starcraft, Banjo Kazooie, Resident Evil 2 just to name a few.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Dunno about best but shaping up to be one of the best.
Gojiira
Member
Pretty good except Metal Gear Solid, a game which literally changed gaming as a whole came out in 1998 along with another revolutionary game called Ocarina of Time. These two alone did more gaming than anything this year.
Now if Elden Ring came out this year it would be a draw but as it is 98 was the year…
Now if Elden Ring came out this year it would be a draw but as it is 98 was the year…
cortadew
Member
Boomer thinking
bitbydeath
Member
Nah, last year was better and even that wouldn’t be considered as the best ever.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
"greatest" is subjective at best, enigmatic at worst. Some hold innovation highest, others fun factor. I'm in the latter camp.
arkhamguy123
Member
You write me a novel but I took great offense. Alrighty. Well I mean dude look, recounting the events from your not at all one sided telling of it doesn’t win you this argument.
Especially when it’s THIS erroneous. Because A. my statement still doesn’t fit in your strawman B. I never threw personal attacks? C. I provided a myriad, a myriad of counter arguments to what youre saying of which your only recourse was to flail and tout some of the weakest arguments I’ve ever heard (ie. Agree with me or you’re wrong anyways and I still win because I made a misguided claim)
In your own recounting you literally proved my point by like your second action being “I then proceeded to lump you into my premise based off my own distorted arbitrary metrics”. You’ve provided zero substance for me to chew on or dissect, zero refutation, zero anything. You repeat yourself, you say things that are blatantly unfounded, and you think smugness is a substitute for actually making a point. So yeah I’m sorry man but again, you came up way short
EDIT: also i still stand by that. You could’ve saved yourself a lot of time and said that you disagree with my opinion instead of trying to make some objective argument and completely losing the discourse. Because we’re talking about the quality of gaming in a year. Not the temperature water boils. There’s an element of subjectivity. You saying it’s stupid and ridiculous shows that this for some reason upsets your ego and set you off on a tangent
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German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
I'm still fond of 1998, but there's no question that 2023 will go down as one of the best.
arkhamguy123
Member
Dude exactly. The top rated games this year are games from the PS2/PS3 era lol
VideoGameEnjoyer
Member
So, in an edit very far into the interaction you finally, sort of address the only point I ever took issue with. What took so long?
And yes, there is an element of subjectivity. And you are blowing way past it. I would love to go through every single year with you, so we can see how 'almost all' of them wipe the floor with 2023. I'm sure very quickly you'd need us to be broadening the definition. Which is why when you later re-stated your argument you said, 'a bunch of years' Well sure, a bunch could be 5-10, that's easy. But that is still less than half of half the years that gaming has been around and put you a far ass cry away from 'almost all'.
Your first post was bait, and I fell for it hook line and sinker. Props to you.
arkhamguy123
Member
I didn’t restate. I said “basically every year” in my very first post.
And I think I said in that post that even ones “before my time”, as I understand, were better. If someone had maybe a little better reading comprehension they could infer that I was talking about the years of gaming from my youth to present. So, modern gaming. I cannot believe you’ve been so dense and so incredulous, lacking any lateral thinking in this subject matter, to seriously think I’m saying goddamn pong and space invaders were better than this year. Use your head man.
Also I don’t do “bait”. I guess maybe it was bait to impetuous posters who are offended at others opinions and fancy themselves objectively superior in preferences lol
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genesisblock
Member
Greatest year in "current" generation gaming. Sure, I'll give you that. All time, nah? You need to play more video game classics.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Nah, been gaming since the 80's. How often do we have a new Zelda, FF and Bethesda RPG in the same year? And then there was Hogwarts Legacy, a very atmospheric title that fans seemed to love, including me. Octopath Traveler 2, phenomenal game. A trippy 2D Mario title. A solid Fire Emblem game. A world-class RPG in BG3. Seems pretty top tier to me.
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Puscifer
Member
98 and 99 are crazy good
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
how was last year better? it had one standout in Elden Ring while we've got a lot more great games this year
supernova8
Banned
Nah, we're firmly into "oh yeah more of the same of what we got last year but looks a bit nicer" territory
Feels like we're getting the exact same stuff as last gen but just with higher resolutions, higher framerates, and faster loading times (not even that much more detail due to the aforementioned obsession with targeting 4K60). Those are QOL improvements but not enough to make me go "oh wow". Precisely why I went with a Series S because why bother with a Series X (or PS5) for that matter if they (the platformers, developers, and publishers) aren't even going to work for it?
Feels like we're getting the exact same stuff as last gen but just with higher resolutions, higher framerates, and faster loading times (not even that much more detail due to the aforementioned obsession with targeting 4K60). Those are QOL improvements but not enough to make me go "oh wow". Precisely why I went with a Series S because why bother with a Series X (or PS5) for that matter if they (the platformers, developers, and publishers) aren't even going to work for it?
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bitbydeath
Member
How many would you consider as a standout this year since you are ignoring a ton of huge titles from last year?
Just BG3?
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nightmare-slain
Member
For me the games I enjoyed this year are TOTK, Diablo, Hogwarts, and BG3.
Waiting for Armored Core, Forza, and Starfield.
The games that make this year better than some others are TOTK, Diablo, and BG3 but not sure it’s the best year ever. BG3 being the best PC game of all time and definitely makes it a good year to remember.
I think Starfield and Forza will be good but AC is the only one that stands a chance of being my GOTY. It’s too early to tell just how good 2023 is but it’ll be up there.
Waiting for Armored Core, Forza, and Starfield.
The games that make this year better than some others are TOTK, Diablo, and BG3 but not sure it’s the best year ever. BG3 being the best PC game of all time and definitely makes it a good year to remember.
I think Starfield and Forza will be good but AC is the only one that stands a chance of being my GOTY. It’s too early to tell just how good 2023 is but it’ll be up there.
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majorgamer10
Member
It can only get better from here!
Balducci30
Member
Best in a while. 2001 and 98 were above it tho
EDIT: why are people mentioning 2017?
EDIT: why are people mentioning 2017?
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Syphon Filter
Member
It's not even top 10 in years. Rehashes of games like spiderman which is somewhat of a movie game and fallout with a space theme is not innovative at all. this year is actually boring.
Mobilemofo
Member
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no.
Villy
Neo Member
Diablo, FF and Baldurs gate came out together before........
Balducci30
Member
Movie game? Fallout with a space theme? That seems highly reductive
GetInTheRobot
Banned
2008 for me
fallout 3
gta4
mgs4
dmc4
left 4 dead
fable 2
braid
gow 2
persona...4
fallout 3
gta4
mgs4
dmc4
left 4 dead
fable 2
braid
gow 2
persona...4
coffinbirth
Member
PS9 has yet to be released, so no.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I can think of at least 3 different better years.
Sushi_Combo
Member
Good yes. The greatest? Questionable .
anthraticus
Banned
I bet there's a thread like this every year
Sentenza
Member
TOTK, Age of Wonders 4, Jagged Alliance 3, Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core VI, Starfield. Yeah, it's looking pretty fucking good so far.
Especially if you're someone who actually likes to PLAY games rather than being a sad wanker about the good old times of your past adolescence.
It's good enough that even some of the leftovers I won't even bother praising (RE4 remake, SfVI, Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, Blasphemous 2, Shadow Gambit) in less crowded era would probably be noteworthy releases in their own right.
Especially if you're someone who actually likes to PLAY games rather than being a sad wanker about the good old times of your past adolescence.
It's good enough that even some of the leftovers I won't even bother praising (RE4 remake, SfVI, Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, Blasphemous 2, Shadow Gambit) in less crowded era would probably be noteworthy releases in their own right.