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SOCOM Confrontation - Trailer & Pics Analyzed
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Cold-Steel
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Considering that this is the first SOCOM game that will be developed fully under the Sony Computer Entertainment umbrella, I'm holding out hope that the quality of this title will be much higher than it was with past games.
Slant Six and Zipper together now have the full resources of first party development at their disposal - I'm really hoping they make good use of it.
Slant Six and Zipper together now have the full resources of first party development at their disposal - I'm really hoping they make good use of it.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Looks like SOCOM:Source. 
I hope Slant Six does a good job in Zipper's stead. At least it sounds like they're listening to the core fan base this time. If they can get back to the roots with the more intimate, tactical design of the first two I'm all over this. A shiny new 30fps Abandoned would be sweet.
I hope Slant Six does a good job in Zipper's stead. At least it sounds like they're listening to the core fan base this time. If they can get back to the roots with the more intimate, tactical design of the first two I'm all over this. A shiny new 30fps Abandoned would be sweet.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Blood Lake. They need to do it. The original version. I really, really want it to make the cut. And Blizzard. And the original Rat's Nest. Might as well throw in Desert Glory while they're at it.
Crap... that's four. Crossroads makes five... grrr...
I hope they don't make new maps. Give us some of the good Socom II maps and all of the great original maps...
You don't need new maps, devs. The old maps will be just fine...
Crap... that's four. Crossroads makes five... grrr...
I hope they don't make new maps. Give us some of the good Socom II maps and all of the great original maps...
You don't need new maps, devs. The old maps will be just fine...
TurboMan07
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Ravenn17 said:
don't have it anymore
Been in development for 4-5 months? Releasing this fall? That seems a little too soon for quality assurance.
A little off topic: Since Slant Six Games is making SOCOM: Tactical Strike (PSP) and SOCOM: Confrontation (PS3), what the heck is Zipper Interactive doing? A proper entry of the SOCOM franchise or something else?
A little off topic: Since Slant Six Games is making SOCOM: Tactical Strike (PSP) and SOCOM: Confrontation (PS3), what the heck is Zipper Interactive doing? A proper entry of the SOCOM franchise or something else?
TurboMan07
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lynux3 said:
their making a true Socom game with Single/Multi game with goodies..
this one is seeming like old school socom games with upgraded graphics and maybe new maps
DemonSwordsman
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lynux3 said:
Zipper is hard at work at Socom 4
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I can't believe how my anticipation for this has friggin' exploded over the last 24 hrs.
At first look I thought, "Meh..."
And then out of the blue I'm starting to look at the screens and think, "Ya know... that's not too bad. Maybe they'll upgrade the animation a little bit or something."
Thinking about Blood Lake and Blizzard does it to me every time.
I don't even care about animation.... I want this game tomorrow.
At first look I thought, "Meh..."
And then out of the blue I'm starting to look at the screens and think, "Ya know... that's not too bad. Maybe they'll upgrade the animation a little bit or something."
Thinking about Blood Lake and Blizzard does it to me every time.
I don't even care about animation.... I want this game tomorrow.
The Take Out Bandit
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I'm not overly impressed with the visuals. Definitely nowhere near the dusty desert city we've seen in MGS4 videos.
And while I love SOCOM online; there's no way in hell I'm parting with $599. Come down to $399 and we'll negotiate Sony, I'd buy VF5, AC4, and SOCOM for sure.
I hope they tweak the controls. I still say SOCOM controls can be streamlined and less clunky without sacrificing functionality.
S2: SackO'Puppies
S3: Stinkeye
I've been meaning to pick up CA at some point.
And while I love SOCOM online; there's no way in hell I'm parting with $599. Come down to $399 and we'll negotiate Sony, I'd buy VF5, AC4, and SOCOM for sure.
I hope they tweak the controls. I still say SOCOM controls can be streamlined and less clunky without sacrificing functionality.
S2: SackO'Puppies
S3: Stinkeye
I've been meaning to pick up CA at some point.
If you have ideas and feedback on the video and information so far, post it in here.
It's a thread of the Playstation.com boards posted by a Zipper employee. He is going to forward it to the producers.
It's a thread of the Playstation.com boards posted by a Zipper employee. He is going to forward it to the producers.
Cold-Steel
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Doel said:
I really hope he does.
I put together an entire list of features I think would benefit the game from an anti-cheating standpoint.
Let's hope some of them make it into the final build.
I beta tested SOCOM 3, what a joke that was - listening to user feedback....yeah right.
Escalation
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It looks nice and character customization sounds fun, but I really think this game does not need an offset viewpoint like Fireteam Bravo. I've got mixed feelings about this.
Ya, there are many people complaining about this on the SOCOM boards at the link I posted a few posts above. I want it to go back to its normal way as well. It was all part of the strategy of looking around corners and I don't know if it would still feel like SOCOM if they did an over the shoulder view. I'm sure its a quick fix, but the they could always give us the option of different view points with the classic style being one of the.Safe Bet said:
Kabuki Waq
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I have not played Socom so this is a serious question....what exactly makes it a better tactical shooter than Graw?
It's hard to put into words, it just has a unique feel. Much like Counter-Strike, it's round-based, with the first team to 6 rounds won, wins the match. And when you die, you are dead for the round.Kabuki Waq said:
It's also a bit faster-paced then GRAW, and the maps are genius. In SOCOM 1 & 2 there are always secret areas that you can get to by jumping off a certain rock at a certain angle, and it keeps the game fresh.
I've tried playing GRAW and even bought the first one, and I just could not get into it. SOCOM 1 & 2 IMO is SO MUCH BETTER and they play very differently, that it ruined GRAW for me.
In contradiction to what I initially said, me and someone else on the Playstation.com boards helped discover that these two pictures are taken from the same area, and that they are taken where the 2nd set of stairs near the Bell Tower (the ones leading into the small alleyway) used to be, and were replaced by an arch way and ally. So there is no longer a 2nd set of stairs there. When you pause the trailer (thats on GameTrailers) at about 37sec, you will see an arch way on the right side of the screen where it wasn't there before. We think thats the arch way in this picture.
I think this is because they now have a set of stairs leading into the balcony on both sides of the map, and with a bridge that most likely can't blow up anymore, so that does the job of replacing the need for those extra set of stairs.
I think this is because they now have a set of stairs leading into the balcony on both sides of the map, and with a bridge that most likely can't blow up anymore, so that does the job of replacing the need for those extra set of stairs.
blindrocket
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I'm a SOCOM newb, so forgive my questions.
I was thinking it may be better for me to just wait for SOCOM 4 and skip this PSN Socom title. Would that be wise since it's not like I'm short of games to play.
And does SOCOM have an iron sights view? That's a must to be in tactical shooters.
I was thinking it may be better for me to just wait for SOCOM 4 and skip this PSN Socom title. Would that be wise since it's not like I'm short of games to play.
And does SOCOM have an iron sights view? That's a must to be in tactical shooters.
Doel said:In contradiction to what I initially said, me and someone else on the Playstation.com boards helped discover that these two pictures are taken from the same area, and that they are taken where the 2nd set of stairs near the Bell Tower (the ones leading into the small alleyway) used to be, and were replaced by an arch way and ally. So there is no longer a 2nd set of stairs there. When you pause the trailer (thats on GameTrailers) at about 37sec, you will see an arch way on the right side of the screen where it wasn't there before. We think thats the arch way in this picture.
I think this is because they now have a set of stairs leading into the balcony on both sides of the map, and with a bridge that most likely can't blow up anymore, so that does the job of replacing the need for those extra set of stairs.
The lighting is actually pretty good, they need to add self-shadowing and up the texture work though. I wonder if this is an issue with the engine, or the art pipeline or what.
Ploid 3.0
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Doel said:
I understand the purpose of this thread, and I will foward it to my friend who is also a big socom fan (hate the hummers, and such of 3 and wide open areas). This is like the best gift to fans of 1 and 2. Now I understand what halo people feel. ALso thanks for pointing out new things in crossroads from this trailer. I noticed the new stuff but didn't quite try to figure out what they lead to. This is going to be sick. Can't wait. Crossroads at night.. my gawd. Wonder what's in store for the other maps, and what the larger crossroads is like. I read that you can choose to play on a larger Crossroads if you have more people that open up more parts of the map. Not huge fields or anything just a nother wing so to speak.
GrayFoxPL
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Ravenn17 said:
Proof that internet isn't 100% lies. The man spreads The Truth!
I was a GOD on Abandoned in S1. Oh, good times. I really loved first Socom the best. (Most likely because I was good at it and sucked so much on Second on for some reason
)No 1 one serious Console online shooter. Gamers that are into online shooters with aim assist should see what's it really all about.
DemonSwordsman
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GrayFoxPL said:Proof that internet isn't 100% lies. The man spreads The Truth!
I was a GOD on Abandoned in S1. Oh, good times. I really loved first Socom the best. (Most likely because I was good at it and sucked so much on Second on for some reason
No 1 one serious Console online shooter. Gamers that are into online shooters with aim assist should see what's it really all about.
the reason 2 wasn't as good as 1 was because they added health bars and it took longer to kill people. And they ruined some of the best old maps.
Sony only has to update SOCOM 2 with better graphics and release it on PS3 and I will put $600 down on day ONE. By far the most enjoyable online console game I have ever played. If this franchise were available with better graphics and Live support on Xbox consoles, I think it would be just as popular as Halo and GRAW/R6. SOCOM 2 was online perfection. The only small problem was hit detection that sucked at times. The maps were fantastic, by far the best ratio of good/crap maps I have ever seen in a game.
Desert Glory = great
Foxhunt = great
Frostfire = great
Blizzard = great
Night Stalker = omg great
Chain Reaction = omg great
Vigilance = great
Crossroads = great
Death Trap = great
Sujo = omg great
The Mixer = good
Rats Nest = meh
Abandoned = meh (only because they changed it to night)
The Ruins = good
Blood Lake = meh
Bitter Jungle = meh (only because it's a choppy mess)
Sandstorm = good
Fish Hook = good (would have been great without the choppiness)
Shadow Fallas = good (a little too big imho)
Enowapi = good
Guidance = meh
Requiem = great
Have they said which of these maps will be on this game? They have to include some Desert Glory and Night Stalker. I'd love to see Chain Reaction too but I don't see that happening with 32 players.
Desert Glory = great
Foxhunt = great
Frostfire = great
Blizzard = great
Night Stalker = omg great
Chain Reaction = omg great
Vigilance = great
Crossroads = great
Death Trap = great
Sujo = omg great
The Mixer = good
Rats Nest = meh
Abandoned = meh (only because they changed it to night)
The Ruins = good
Blood Lake = meh
Bitter Jungle = meh (only because it's a choppy mess)
Sandstorm = good
Fish Hook = good (would have been great without the choppiness)
Shadow Fallas = good (a little too big imho)
Enowapi = good
Guidance = meh
Requiem = great
Have they said which of these maps will be on this game? They have to include some Desert Glory and Night Stalker. I'd love to see Chain Reaction too but I don't see that happening with 32 players.
GrayFoxPL
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DemonSwordsman said:
You're right. In S1 when I sneaked on the guy from the back or sides I was 100% sure I'd kill the guy. In S2 I can't count how many times due to lag and long health bars the guy menaged to turn and kill me, then fall after 2 clips of lead I packed into his back earlier. :lol
And don't get me started on head shot hit detection.