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[BFIB]

Eh, I'm usually a fan of the deadspin articles surrounding the Cardinals. They take it upon themselves to constantly run stories bashing the fanbase, team, etc. because the owner of Deadspin is a big Cardinals fan, so the writers take it upon themselves to run articles against the Cards as kind of a tongue in cheek (BFIB, "the Right Way" etc.) As a Cards fan, I think these articles are entertaining.

But this is a little excessive. Yeah, these people who are defending Darren Wilson are clearly in the wrong, but this is a hot button issue and it clearly is stepping over the line IMO.

 

[Dude Abides]

Interrupt it by demonstrating outside of the stadium?

Are you honestly fishing for a reason why the protesters deserved the treatment they got?

Yes.

And apparently St. Louis is actually in Philadelphia.

 

[Allez Phill]

And people ask me why I dont like St. Louis. I don't want anything to do with the place. These Cardinal fans only come to the city for the games. If it wasn't for their baseball, the inner city would deteriorate into the state that Detroit has.

I've never wanted out of something or someplace more than this. Sometimes I just wake up dreading another day alive in this place. I was never like this when I was younger because I ignored the racism, but now that I'm stepping in the real world, Saint Louis is no place for blacks and other minorities.


I'll keep wearing my Giants and 49ers hats just to piss these die hard baseball and football fans off.

 

[Omegasquash]

Must I watch this nonsense to find out the answer to this question: Where were these protesters and what were they doing?

I ask because I read something about ferguson protesters performing an 'act of civil disobedience" called "Shut it down for Mike Brown" at a symphony in Philly.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Shut-it-down-for-Mike-Brown.html#4WqzcVxYjZxQvC3V.01

So extrapolating from that, did a group of these individuals try to interrupt a baseball game?

That sounds like a question that a Fox news anchor would ask. Jesus.

 

[Nickle]

Yeah, cardinal fans are all scum. I would never generalize a whole group of people, fuck all of them.

 

[Omegasquash]

Yeah, cardinal fans are all scum. I would never generalize a whole group of people, fuck all of them.

This is actually a brilliant post.

 

[BFIB]

Yeah, cardinal fans are all scum. I would never generalize a whole group of people, fuck all of them.

Amazing.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Must I watch this nonsense to find out the answer to this question: Where were these protesters and what were they doing?

Nope, you can just read the first two sentences of the article.

This guy right here, the one with "I am Darren Wilson" taped onto the back of his Cardinals jersey—an homage to the Ferguson, Mo., police officer who shot an unarmed teenager named Mike Brown to death in August—was at the Cardinals game last night. He, along with many other Cardinals fans, clashed with a small group of protesters who want to see Wilson prosecuted. The guy in the Darren Wilson jersey wasn't even the worst part.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

The gift that keeps on giving..

Yeah, cardinal fans are all scum. I would never generalize a whole group of people, fuck all of them.

 

[Dash27]

Interrupt it by demonstrating outside of the stadium?

Are you honestly fishing for a reason why the protesters deserved the treatment they got?

Uh oh, questioning detected... deploy countermeasures.

Yes Gentleman Jack. Interrupt it. Typically when people are so blatantly overtly racist and obnoxious there's some kind of nonsense going on and I'm curious as to what.

Anyway sounds like they are saying "We'll shut the shit down" in the beginning at one point. I can't really make it out. But seemed like another version of the symphony thing in St Louis I linked. Although in that case I think they just did something at intermission and left quietly.

 

[Paracelsus]

This makes me look at Serie A differently now, and Serie A right now is a shithole.

 

[andycapps]

Yes.

And apparently St. Louis is actually in Philadelphia.

Yeah, this action seems more befitting Phillies fans, but regardless, this is disgusting.

 

[Omegasquash]

Uh oh, questioning detected... deploy countermeasures.

Yes Gentleman Jack. Interrupt it. Typically when people are so blatantly overtly racist and obnoxious there's some kind of nonsense going on and I'm curious as to what.

Anyway sounds like they are saying "We'll shut the shit down" in the beginning at one point. I can't really make it out. But seemed like another version of the symphony thing in St Louis I linked. Although in that case I think they just did something at intermission and left quietly.

Doesn't really matter. People were a bunch of racist fucks, and there's never a reason or excuse to act that way or say things like that.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Typically when people are so blatantly overtly racist and obnoxious there's some kind of nonsense going on and I'm curious as to what.

Because alcohol, pre-existing racist beliefs and a mob mentality isn't the most obvious answer? These uppity protesters had to go and entrap these fine, white sporting enthusiasts into saying those horrible things?

Don't worry I'm sure you'll probe the real facts of this pulse-pounding mystery.

 

[Stet]

Uh oh, questioning detected... deploy countermeasures.

Yes Gentleman Jack. Interrupt it. Typically when people are so blatantly overtly racist and obnoxious there's some kind of nonsense going on and I'm curious as to what.

Anyway sounds like they are saying "We'll shut the shit down" in the beginning at one point. I can't really make it out. But seemed like another version of the symphony thing in St Louis I linked. Although in that case I think they just did something at intermission and left quietly.

The point is that it doesn't matter if they interrupt one stupid leisurely part of your life because their lives are interrupted on a daily basis. If you value a game or a symphony so much that a delay will cause you terrible distress, you literally do not have the capacity to understand the situation they face.

 

[BFIB]

Yeah, this action seems more befitting Phillies fans, but regardless, this is disgusting.

Oh please. St. Louis wouldn't boo Santa Claus. Unless he's black.

 

[blakep267]

What's with the get jobs stuff from some groups of angry white people. One minute they yell " you need to get jobs" other times they complain when immigrants " take er jobs".

Anyway is that the best they could come up with? If they chanted you need to get iPhone 6's. I'd feel some type of way





That's my comedy bit. Don't bite my head off

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Typically when people are so blatantly overtly racist and obnoxious there's some kind of nonsense going on and I'm curious as to what.

I want to live where you live. I've had beer bottles and nappy words thrown at me for just walking down the street..because I'm some kind of nonsense, me thinks.

 

[The Lamonster]

Yeah, Missourians are all scum. I would never generalize a whole group of people, fuck all of them.

FTFY

 

[Branduil]

Eh, I'm usually a fan of the deadspin articles surrounding the Cardinals. They take it upon themselves to constantly run stories bashing the fanbase, team, etc. because the owner of Deadspin is a big Cardinals fan, so the writers take it upon themselves to run articles against the Cards as kind of a tongue in cheek (BFIB, "the Right Way" etc.) As a Cards fan, I think these articles are entertaining.

But this is a little excessive. Yeah, these people who are defending Darren Wilson are clearly in the wrong, but this is a hot button issue and it clearly is stepping over the line IMO.

How dare deadspin point out the awful behavior of these Cardinals fans.

 

[Omegasquash]

I want to live where you live. I've had beer bottles and nappy words thrown at me for just walking down the street..because I'm some kind of nonsense, me thinks.

Were you playing the loud rap music and have the sagging pants with rap cars, by any chance? I'm just wondering if there was any intent on your part to listen to music or drive through their peaceful neighborhood.

Spoiler

I'm sorry

 

[Dabanton]

It's frightening what bubbles under the surface of a lot of people just waiting to come to the fore especially in racial situations.

At about 10:25 a small blonde lady starts yelling at the protesters: "We're the ones who gave all y'all the freedoms that you have!"

At 16:43, a female Cardinals fan begins chanting "Africa! Africa! Africa!" at the protesters.

 

[BFIB]

Why chant "Africa!" in the first place?

If your going to be racist, at least make a better effort.

 

[Odoul]

"We're the ones who gave y'all the freedoms you have!"

...who the fuck is "we're"?

That and screeching about the flag being upside down because loved ones died in combat (I'm assuming that's what happened and that it's even the truth).

The simultaneous display of arrogance/superiority while playing the victim role, it's truly something to behold.

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Yep. Typical Cardinal scum.

 

[jmood88]

All of this is dumb/sad but chanting "U-S-A" at protestors you don't support makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Were you playing the loud rap music and have the sagging pants with rap cars, by any chance? I'm just wondering if there was any intent on your part to listen to music or drive through their peaceful neighborhood.

Spoiler

I'm sorry

Nope..just your typical WWB moments..used to happen quite often. These things tend to happen when there's a section of the community that have their Duke boys flag showing proudly.

 

[timetokill]

"We're the ones who gave y'all the freedoms you have!"

...who the fuck is "we're"?

well, see, God gave the white man his rights, and then the white man had to give those rights to everyone else as he saw fit. in a grand act of kindness, the white people of America gave black people rights, and it was Good.

 

[Cat]

Truly reprehensible behavior from those fans.

 

[andycapps]

Oh please. St. Louis wouldn't boo Santa Claus. Unless he's black.

lol I know race is a hot issue in St Louis. I'm just saying I'm more familiar with Phillies fans and how rude they can be.

 

[Skab]

Oh, great, now every Cardinals fan/resident of St. Louis out there will get lumped in with this crowd.

Sigh.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Eh, I'm usually a fan of the deadspin articles surrounding the Cardinals. They take it upon themselves to constantly run stories bashing the fanbase, team, etc. because the owner of Deadspin is a big Cardinals fan, so the writers take it upon themselves to run articles against the Cards as kind of a tongue in cheek (BFIB, "the Right Way" etc.) As a Cards fan, I think these articles are entertaining.

But this is a little excessive. Yeah, these people who are defending Darren Wilson are clearly in the wrong, but this is a hot button issue and it clearly is stepping over the line IMO.

You're right. reporting on things like this is just too much. I know I like my news to be totally censored.

 

[Phil S.]

Oh, great, now every Cardinals fan/resident of St. Louis out there will get lumped in with this crowd.

Sigh.

Yeah, I don't find that very fair, but regardless, this is a disgusting incident in a town with a history of racial issues.

 

[richiek]

Obligatory:

 

[Skab]

You're right. reporting on things like this is just too much. I know I like my news to be totally censored.

The fuck? That isn't what he just said at all.

 

[timetokill]

You're right. reporting on things like this is just too much. I know I like my news to be totally censored.

come on dude. it's one thing to report silly little things.

but this story is important, topical, and it makes cardinals fans look really, really bad. is that really what we want the news covering?

Spoiler

lol

 

[JABEE]

People love finding an excuse to shit on Philadelphia fans. Racist shit-heads in St. Louis seem to have some connection to drunk Eagles fans in the 1960s. You have to go back close to 50 years to come up with an example. I'm sure there weren't a lot of shittier things to point at happening in the 60s in your hometown.

Sports fans acting as a mob is a sad byproduct of tribalism, alcohol, and large public gatherings.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

The Fuck? That isn't what he just said at all.

Well it sounds like he wouldnt have ran the article if it were up to him because its a hot button issue and its over the line. I apologise if I misinterpreted his post.

 

[Dash27]

Because alcohol, pre-existing racist beliefs and a mob mentality isn't the most obvious answer? These uppity protesters had to go and entrap these fine, white sporting enthusiasts into saying those horrible things?

Don't worry I'm sure you'll probe the real facts of this pulse-pounding mystery.

Don't let questions scare and enrage you so much Gentleman Jack. Try and grow past that stage. I understand that in the low level political arguments the battle lines are clearly laid out and you're taught to stake your ground and fight any dissent but maybe evolve just a touch.

Some sports fans say shitty things to annoying protesters, not a big mystery at all.

 

[WaffleTaco]

The fans were being assholes, but these protestors are just runing the game for everyone and everyone that lives in this area, is tired of it. I remember a few weeks back they were asking for tickets so they could get into a Rams game in order to protest.

 

[Omegasquash]

Nope..just your typical WWB moments..used to happen quite often. These things tend to happen when there's a section of the community that have their Duke boys flag showing proudly.

Holy shit.

Some sports fans say shitty things to annoying protesters, not a big mystery at all.

Holy shit.

 

[Mesousa]

The fans were being assholes, but these protestors are just runing the game for everyone and everyone that lives in this area, is tired of it. I remember a few weeks back they were asking for tickets so they could get into a Rams game in order to protest.

They need to have their games ruined. Get all these distractions out of the way so people can take care of the true issues in that city.

 

[bob_arctor]

The fans were being assholes, but these protestors are just runing the game for everyone and everyone that lives in this area, is tired of it. I remember a few weeks back they were asking for tickets so they could get into a Rams game in order to protest.

I mean, I know if someone ruins a game I'm there to enjoy, I just start spouting nasty racist shit at them. Who doesn't??

 

[timetokill]

The fans were being assholes, but these protestors are just runing the game for everyone and everyone that lives in this area, is tired of it. I remember a few weeks back they were asking for tickets so they could get into a Rams game in order to protest.

Yeah... I don't get why these protesters can't just stay in Ferguson, where they can be easily ignored.

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Don't let questions scare and enrage you so much Gentleman Jack. Try and grow past that stage. I understand that in the low level political arguments the battle lines are clearly laid out and you're taught to stake your ground and fight any dissent but maybe evolve just a touch.

Some sports fans say shitty things to annoying protesters, not a big mystery at all.

What I'm seeing here is a demonstration of the Anything Goes Alex Jones/Glenn Beck Dojo of Just Asking Questions, and then a rapid retreat into 'boys will be boys' by someone trying to run an end around some blatant, naked racism hurled at an easy target.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Don't let questions scare and enrage you so much Gentleman Jack. Try and grow past that stage. I understand that in the low level political arguments the battle lines are clearly laid out and you're taught to stake your ground and fight any dissent but maybe evolve just a touch.

Some sports fans say shitty things to annoying protesters, not a big mystery at all.

Right..and some ______ say racist things because they're racist. These folks are being racist, right? Is your definition a little different? Actually quite curious.

 

[Dash27]

I want to live where you live. I've had beer bottles and nappy words thrown at me for just walking down the street..because I'm some kind of nonsense, me thinks.

Me too, depending on what nappy words means, but a bottle was thrown once. The shitty comment was a couple of times by random kids when i was younger.

Point stands though tat a crowd doesn't usually start racial chants and argue out of nowhere. Fortunately. Please form an orderly line to strawman this comment into "So you're saying they deserved it?"

Still, come to Montclair NJ Alf, we're diverse almost to a fault and there's lots of cats for you.

 

[Oblong Schlong]

People in this topic should stop jumping to conclusions.

Both sides have should accept some of the blame; we don't know all the facts. For all we know, there is another video out there that shows the protesters antagonising the Cardinals fans first at starting the whole thing (I assume this is the case). We should reserve judgement if we are to be wise and not savage.

It's important to keep calm and not inflame social tensions, it's often true that pulling the race card escalates situations and makes the risk of violence worse. I would gladly move on from racism forever, but doing so is made much harder when people keep pointing it out.

There must have been some reason the sports fans made those comments. Perhaps they were provoked, feeling threatened by the visible presence of weaponry amongst the mob (e.g. shivs, glocks, glares)? It's hard to say from the video, I can't see anything like that, but it certainly seems possible doesn't it?

Otherwise we are asserting that videos can be evidence of something, which sounds rather prejudiced to me. Ironic, no?

 

[Camp Lo]

People in this topic should stop jumping to conclusions.

Both sides have should accept some of the blame; we don't know all the facts. For all we know, there is another video out there that shows the protesters antagonising the Cardinals fans first at starting the whole thing (I assume this is the case). We should reserve judgement if we are to be wise and not savage.

It's important to keep calm and not inflame social tensions, it's often true that pulling the race card escalates situations and makes the risk of violence worse. I would gladly move on from racism forever, but doing so is made much harder when people keep pointing it out.

There must have been some reason the sports fans made those comments. Perhaps they were provoked, feeling threatened by the visible presence of weaponry amongst the mob (e.g. shivs, glocks, glares)? It's hard to say from the video, I can't see anything like that, but it certainly seems possible doesn't it?

Otherwise we are asserting that videos can be evidence of something, which sounds rather prejudiced to me. Ironic, no?

Please tell me this guy's joking. It's hard to tell personally.

 

[Omegasquash]

People in this topic should stop jumping to conclusions.

Both sides have should accept some of the blame; we don't know all the facts. For all we know, there is another video out there that shows the protesters antagonising the Cardinals fans first at starting the whole thing (I assume this is the case). We should reserve judgement if we are to be wise and not savage.

It's important to keep calm and not inflame social tensions, it's often true that pulling the race card escalates situations and makes the risk of violence worse. I would gladly move on from racism forever, but doing so is made much harder when people keep pointing it out.

There must have been some reason the sports fans made those comments. Perhaps they were provoked, feeling threatened by the visible presence of weaponry amongst the mob (e.g. shivs, glocks, glares)? It's hard to say from the video, I can't see anything like that, but it certainly seems possible doesn't it?

Otherwise we are asserting that videos can be evidence of something, which sounds rather prejudiced to me. Ironic, no?

Not sure if serious.

Edit: Seems I was getting got. Well done.