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[sangreal]

No they don't. They sold it a while ago after, of course, signing agreements that would allow them to include rumble without paying the regular price.

and agreements that would make Immersion pay Microsoft if they won or settled with Sony

8. LONG-TERM CUSTOMER ADVANCE FROM MICROSOFT

On July 25, 2003, the Company contemporaneously executed a series of agreements with Microsoft Corporation (“Microsoft”) that (1) settled the Company’s lawsuit against Microsoft, (2) granted Microsoft a worldwide royalty-free, irrevocable license to the Company’s portfolio of patents (the “License Agreement”) in exchange for a payment of $19.9 million, (3) provided Microsoft with sublicense rights to pursue certain license arrangements directly with third parties including Sony Computer Entertainment which, if consummated, would result in payments to the Company (the “Sublicense Rights”), and conveyed to Microsoft the right to a payment of cash in the event of a settlement within certain parameters of the Company’s patent litigation against Sony Computer Entertainment of America Inc. and Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (the “Participation Rights”) in exchange for a payment of $0.1 million, (4) issued Microsoft shares of the Company’s Series A Redeemable Convertible Preferred Stock (“Series A Preferred Stock”) for a payment of $6.0 million, and (5) granted the Company the right to sell up to $9.0 million of debentures to Microsoft under the terms and conditions established in newly authorized 7% Senior Redeemable Convertible Debentures (“7% Debentures”) with annual draw down rights over a 48-month period. The sublicense rights provided to Microsoft to contract directly with Sony Computer Entertainment have now expired. The Company has, to date, not sold any 7% Debentures, of which $4.0 million were available for sale at September 30, 2006.

Under these agreements, in the event of a settlement of the Sony Computer Entertainment litigation under certain terms, the Company will be required to make a cash payment to Microsoft of (i) an amount to be determined based on the settlement proceeds, and (ii) any funds received from Microsoft under the 7% Debentures.

In the event of a settlement of the Sony Computer Entertainment litigation, the Company will realize and retain net cash proceeds received from Sony Computer Entertainment only to the extent that settlement proceeds exceed the amounts due Microsoft for its Participation Rights and any outstanding 7% Debentures and interest as specified above. Under certain circumstances related to a Company initiated settlement with Sony Computer Entertainment, the Company would be obligated to pay Microsoft a minimum of $15.0 million. In the event of an unfavorable judicial resolution or a dismissal or withdrawal by the Company of the lawsuit meeting certain conditions, the Company would not be required to make any payments to Microsoft except pursuant to the payment provisions relating to any outstanding 7% Debentures.

 

[Vyer]

Definitely good news.

I hope everyone who tried to downplay rumble in previous posts didn't get too happy in this thread.

 

[plagiarize]

and agreements that would make Immersion pay Microsoft if they won or settled with Sony

i think you just 'zinged' sonycowboy.

for the sake of disclosure, i have often admitted that i didn't miss rumble on my wavebird at all, but like amirox, i think when you have motion control rumble actually becomes more important as you need that extra feedback given that you've lost the feedback from the spring and edge of the joypad giving you that tactile feedback that tells you if you're accelorating or turning as hard as possible.

i have no idea where that point is in motorstorm and rumble could make up for that.

motion control + rumble >> analogue stick + rumble imho

 

[WickedLaharl]

I don't expect to see results from this before autumn.

i hope it doesn't take that long as i need another controller and would rather get one w/ rumble.

 

[Defensor]

Please work with Wangan Midnight PS3. PLEASE WORK WITH WANGAN MIDNIGHT PS3.

 

[BlueTsunami]

RUMBLE RUMBLE RUMBLE RUMBLE RUMBLE!

*Does the AD Cukachoo Dance*

 

[Zombie James]

we didnt have 5000000 blogs then. These days, I fully expect class action suit against Sony, with every mag in the world (including Trinidad & Tobago) running the story how Sony screwed early adaptors and now isnt willing to give them their free rumble controller, which was their right from the moment they were born.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Wait so? Launching the PS3 without a Rumble Capable controller is screwing early adopters? When did the controller that got launched with the system become tied to the system FOREVER.

 

[cgcg]

Nice! Advanced rumble tech will be implemented in PS3 No more cheap beeper buzzers!

 

[Z3F]

Could this be the "make the gamers happy" news that they were talking about? It definitely makes me happy. Motion sensitive controls require rumble even more than traditional controls.

 

[Mooreberg]

Wait so? Launching the PS3 without a Rumble Capable controller is screwing early adopters? When did the controller that got launched with the system become tied to the system FOREVER.

adaptors (sic)

Basically your house is going up in flames tonight due to faulty wiring in a game system but you'll have a new virtual home™ in a few short weeks.

 

[Scottlarock]

Great news Sony. Now put it in the box.

 

[plagiarize]

it isn't screwing early adopters any more than a price drop or hardware refinements usually do. early adopters like me have superior backwards compatibility... and i'll wait to buy another pad until the new pads are out.

 

[spwolf]

Wait so? Launching the PS3 without a Rumble Capable controller is screwing early adopters? When did the controller that got launched with the system become tied to the system FOREVER.

eh, once for all, I am not saying it is my opinion, it is not, I am saying that thats what media will write and what blogs will write. Anti-Sony hype is crazy out there, in the wild, behind safe walls of NeoGAF.

 

[BlueTsunami]

adaptors (sic)

Basically your house is going up in flames tonight due to faulty wiring in a game system but you'll have a new virtual home™ in a few short weeks.

Argh, my reading comprehension is off tonight. Whats the story about the adaptors?

 

[Stealth]

I guess Sony finally got tired of hearing "we miss rumble" from almost every source in the press and in the industry. Personally I could have lived without it, but I'm not about to snub my nose if they offer to bring it back (just don't kill the currently awesome battery life on the Sixaxis!).

 

[plagiarize]

I guess Sony finally got tired of hearing "we miss rumble" from almost every source in the press and in the industry. Personally I could have lived without it, but I'm not about to snub my nose if they offer to bring it back (just don't kill the currently awesome battery life on the Sixaxis!).

i'm sure that like every rumbling controller to date, that you'll be able to switch the rumble off.

 

[Mooreberg]

Argh, my reading comprehension is off tonight. Whats the story about the adaptors?

I think Dr. Frink's sarcasm meter is exploding. Leech quoted something that I hope was written as farce but he typed "early adaptors" (either a typo or really bad spelling) instead of "early adopters."

 

[teepo]

YES MY GT WHEEL BETTER BE PATCHED PRONTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlueTsunami]

I think Dr. Frink's sarcasm meter is exploding. Leech quoted something that I hope was written as farce but he typed "early adaptors" (either a typo or really bad spelling) instead of "early adopters."

;_;

THIS IS MADNESS

 

[mckmas8808]

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

:lol

I would like to know the dividing line on that subject. I doubt I ever will.

Try the shoe on and see if it fits-- I don't recall you being either particularly, but it's not like I've been taking names.

In the meantime, stop trying to start something.

 

[Defuser]

Early adopters? Apparently somebody forgotten the PSX days when it first came out.

 

[JB1981]

This news makes me very happy.

 

[TTP]

Early adopters? Apparently somebody forgotten the PSX days when it first came out.

I recall DCharlie rollercostering emotional states about it.

 

[mckmas8808]

I like how you put BOTH viewpoints in there!



I wonder if existing owners will get a discount or somethin'? I'd want to replace the two I have now.

Did you get a replacement for the controller on the PSone?

 

[DCharlie]

I recall DCharlie rollecostering emotional states about it.

... "the PSX touched me here, here, and *cries* here.... ohgoditwashorrible..."

Did you get a replacement for the controller on the PSone?

it's no use either side getting angry about this yet until we see what sort of time line it is until this controller. If this comes REAL soon, then early adopters are going to feel a little pissed off surely?

 

[TTP]

... "the PSX touched me here, here, and *cries* here.... ohgoditwashorrible..."

Do u still have it hidden somewhere in your house?

 

[DCharlie]

Do u still have it hidden somewhere in your house?

HIDDEN?!

no way! it's got pride of place in the AV rack downstairs (i'm not joking either)

if i can see it at all time, it can't moleterize me... I know it's game...

 

[cvxfreak]

Thank you lord.

 

[TTP]

HIDDEN?!

no way! it's got pride of place in the AV rack downstairs (i'm not joking either)

if i can see it at all time, it can't moleterize me... I know it's game...

:lol

You are aware you basically got an early PS3 prototype in there do you?

 

[isamu]

PHUQ YEAH THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MS7 AND I ARE GOING OUT FOR DRINKS AT THE TITTIE BAR TO CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

No. Some games can be patched. But its not going to happen.

What do you mean it's not gonna happen!?!?!?! The guy from Sony has already hinted at them making patches available for non-ffb games!

I hope Studio Liverpool finally cums to their senses and release an FFB patch for Formula 1 '06....then I will FINALLY buy a PS3 so I can play Ridge Racer 07 and F1 and GTHD!!!!!!!!!!!

Isamu what about your ultimate 100" Racing setup?

IT'S COMING BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gossack]

Yay, they're bringing rumble back.

 

[Fafalada]

then early adopters are going to feel a little pissed off surely?

You mean like all the pissed of DS Fat owners?

 

[vissione]

.

 

[Aeon712]

Good thing I don't play with Rumble ever, hugs Six Axis

 

[mckmas8808]

I love this news ALOT! Coming this summer?

 

[tanod]

YAY!

I'm guessing they're using the generation 2 feedback that Immersion just developed. That would avoid any PR snafus. I'm also gonna guess that part of the agreement they did was to get an exclusive license for the tech so Microsoft is left out in the cold.

The new controller: Keep it light (love it), new rumble tech, $50, Fall '07 = I'm there.


BTW, This will likely not affect their bottom line (just like they're saying) because in financial statements, you can create an allowance for likely outcomes of lawsuits. Chances are, it's already been included in their earnings guidance.

 

[AAK]

THANK GOD!!

I couldn't imagine playing DMC4 without rumble!

 

[tanod]

I can barely believe all of this good news.

This has to be planned.

 

[cvxfreak]

RE5 PS3 will support rumble like the 360 version!

 

[Y2Kev]

RE5 PS3 will support rumble like the 360 version!

And you can put little zombie statuettes in your virtual room! :lol :lol

 

[sangreal]

I'm also gonna guess that part of the agreement they did was to get an exclusive license for the tech so Microsoft is left out in the cold.

Microsoft has a perpetual patent agreement with Immersion

again, from a recent Immersion filing:

Under the terms of our present agreement with Microsoft, Microsoft receives a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable license to our worldwide portfolio of patents.

 

[bigswords]

What do you mean it's not gonna happen!?!?!?! The guy from Sony has already hinted at them making patches available for non-ffb games!

Are you serious, dont play with my heart please tell me this is true!

 

[Wollan]

MotorStorm & Resistance will most likely assuredly get patches that adds rumble later on.

 

[Y2Kev]

Microsoft has a perpetual patent agreement with Immersion

again, from a recent Immersion filing:

Christ, Microsoft cleaned immersion's clock.

 

[Wollan]

And you can put little zombie statuettes in your virtual room! :lol :lol

Recreate the itchy scratchy room from RE1.

 

[Double H]

Wow, massive turn around in regards to Sony’s public perception.

I hope future firmware updates will allow for PS2 games to support force feedback—at the moment my NTSC–J copies of the GT series feel like the suck.

 

[Jenga]

I feel sad for people who went out and bought PS3 early. Now they have to spend even MORE money for a feature that should have come in the first place.

I can't believe how hyped some people are getting over this. Removing features, and then adding them on later for fanfare is going to become an industry standard, I promise it.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Christ, Microsoft cleaned immersion's clock.

Well, they've had a lot of practice.

"Buy 'em out, boys."