-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
SONY ANNOUNCED NEW PSP!!! (more changes than you thought)
- Thread starter Lau
- Start date
- Status
Marconelly said:
No worries. As I said, lighter = more comfortable to hold. Besides, the glossy surface actually offers more grip than the current one. Try passing your hand over the glossy PS3 and then on the back of the current PSP model. You'll see your fingers will almost "glue" over the PS3 surface. There is a reason the DS lite plastic is glossy too...
Edit: havent tested the system with sweating hands tho. The air conditioning, you know...
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I do not think the extra 32 MB of RAM will be opened to developers fro a LOOOOOOOOOONG time if ever. Well, there are some areas used by the OS (or can be used by the OS when it needs to so that you cannot consider them as permanent storage that for example survives a System Sleep and Restart cycle) which could be moved in the extra 32 MB of RAM thus freeing up permanently blocks of RAM in the other 32 MB, but this would mean that software written for the newer PSP's would not be compatible with the older PSP's.
Likely uses beyond an automatic cache for UMD data accesses ?:
1.) extra RAM for the Web Browser -> dramatically reduced amount of errors due to the browser running out of memory.
2.) extra RAM for the XMB:
2.1) possible new functions which will be introduced only on the PSP-2xxx series and which will ease the transition to PSP2 when it gets released.
2.2) music playback while having picture slide-shows maybe.
2.3) XMB integration with games (introduction of PSN friends list and messages on both older and newer PSP's, but in-game XMB access only given to newer PSP's ?).
Likely uses beyond an automatic cache for UMD data accesses ?:
1.) extra RAM for the Web Browser -> dramatically reduced amount of errors due to the browser running out of memory.
2.) extra RAM for the XMB:
2.1) possible new functions which will be introduced only on the PSP-2xxx series and which will ease the transition to PSP2 when it gets released.
2.2) music playback while having picture slide-shows maybe.
2.3) XMB integration with games (introduction of PSN friends list and messages on both older and newer PSP's, but in-game XMB access only given to newer PSP's ?).
DaCocoBrova said:
i hope the new analog has more travel this time, on the old PSP it traveled very short distance.
I also hope the new PSP screen doesnt ghost like the old one, and has better speaker. the old PSP had such crappy speakers, everything sounds like it had too much trebble, don't hear bass at all(if you know what i mean)....heck the DS had a much better sounding speakers.
Damn. They really improved the screen? I'm suprised, and impressed. I thought it would have been a less-than-desireable option for them. I think the screens still cost like $30-40.
Looks like battery life is unchanged now that the battery is smaller. I was hoping for actual battery life savings, so they should have kept the form-factor the same for the battery. IMO, the area they slimmed the most (the edges) needed it the least. I always wanted handles like on the Dualshock. Making that area flat just seems like it would make games that use the L button heavily even more difficult to play. To be more specific, the L+nub combination is the killer for me. I can't hold the system for more than an hour with those buttons.
I'm actually much less interested in this now. PSP Classique forever. PEACE.
Looks like battery life is unchanged now that the battery is smaller.
I was hoping for actual battery life savings, so they should have kept the form-factor the same for the battery. IMO, the area they slimmed the most (the edges) needed it the least. I always wanted handles like on the Dualshock. Making that area flat just seems like it would make games that use the L button heavily even more difficult to play. To be more specific, the L+nub combination is the killer for me. I can't hold the system for more than an hour with those buttons.I'm actually much less interested in this now. PSP Classique forever. PEACE.
TTP said:D-pad, face buttons and analog all felt better. Analog disc was less slippy under the thumb. Couldn't actually figure out why they felt better but they did.
The face button I'm pretty sure are different in that they show some small indentations that I dont see on my old US model. Let me see if I can find a pic of that.
Kutaragi said:
Mr.Potato Head
Banned
crazyscreenwriter said:
Dumb.. how is it a fail when its already a success? :lol
OokieSpookie
Banned
Bah Play Asia still doesn't have the ff bundle up.
Ah well.
Ah well.
Flo_Evans said:
Because the old PSP doesnt have a built-in video output chipset?
bengraven said:
Loading faster in older games = no*
Loading faster in upcoming games = yes, if they are developed to take advantage of those extra 32MB.
*Sony didn't say the UMD drive is faster than the current one. But it might be. They didn't say anything about the LCD either, which looks better than the old one to me. So, wait and see I guess.
AgentOtaku
Member
sorry to be a nuisance....anyone have a link of a good, close-up of the Daxter Silver PSPslim???
Lau said:
Sony's got this really awesome new business model of creating overpriced hardware and then having a fantastically barren library of games.
It's completely revolutionary and flies in the face of common sense but I wish them the best of luck.
Clearly they have one exec there that loves the old addage, "That sounds so crazy...it just might work!"
OokieSpookie
Banned
Durante said:
Agreed
Did you get that from any official source? Because to my knowledge there's no such thing as "taking advantage of 32MB" (and probably never will be).TTP said:
The supposed usage for auto-caching should affect All games.
The other part is the reality - 32MB of disc-cache will give you marginal improvements at best, and often not even that. I want it to be used for something actually useful - ie. XMB switching / integration.
If they want to support disc caching, do it like everyone else, through writeable storage media, where it'll actually have a chance to offer real improvements. And add virtual-memory to the damn web-browser while at it.
replicashooter
Banned
Avalon said:
AgentOtaku said:
I wonder about the silver too, it looks great in this pic:
Meh in this one:
And atrocious in this one:
replicashooter
Banned
The finish on the faceplates looks really cheap, comparable to those 3rd party replacements that were kicking around for the PSP. Plus the clear buttons look like crap.
Barkley's Justice
Member
i like how the slimmer unit looks less precious. i feel like when i remove my psp from its case, i am unsheathing a sacred ornament or something. i think "cheapening" the sysetm -- maybe that's not the best word -- making the unit sturdier will also promote people to play psp in public a bit more. it's all eyes on you when playing psp on the subway. you finna get a punch in the head and your unit gripped up.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
max-pain said:
I will definitely be importing the white one.
CurseoftheGods
Banned
Marconelly said:
It's not a problem at all with the DSL Lite.
â Narayan
Member
Oh. My. Lord.
SILVER OR WHITE?! WHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE?!
SILVER OR WHITE?! WHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE?!
WORLDWIDEWII
Member
klee123 said:
what is the retail price for ffvii cc le psp in japan?? (us dollar).
I wasn't going to get one. Wasn't even thinking about it. But the better d-pad, screen, more memory, and video out function have me wanting it now. All the small things add up. I'll probably get one, if not at launch, before x-mas.
In white (import) or black for me.
In white (import) or black for me.
Diablohead
Member
I like the size of the new psp, I got friends who own the normal model and I thought it was pretty slim looking anyway.
Fafalada said:
I was kinda interpreting the press release, which never mentions the doubled RAM but states that the "new PSP is equipped with enhanced feature to temporarily store game data from UMD, reducing load time during game play (*)". The note adds: "Effect of this feature varies depending on software titles".
So I guess the "enhanced feature" is the extra 32MBs, and that not all "software titles" will take advantage of it.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
replicashooter said:I wonder about the silver too, it looks great in this pic:
Meh in this one:
And atrocious in this one:
Now I'm really torn.I'd be all over the silver one if it looked consistently like the top pic... a sort of gunmetal gray color. But the other shots make it looks so crap. Chintzy, like korean electronics.
There was nothing automatic about that though (and having least memory to fill helped as well).Pimpbaa said:
And this really should work automatically for it to be a feature of new model -
Give people more user-memory to work with and you'll end up with split userbase and no faster loads. Restrict the extra memory usage for load-cache only, and almost noone will bother with it.
It'd help to have some numbers about performance of the new memory. If Sony's only purpose was disc caching the new memory might be slow like GCs sound ram too (though I would still find that very bizarre, especially in a handheld).
Those two statements to me read to me as "it's a cache, any UMD will go through it, and effects will obviously vary because different load-schemes are dime a dozen. Titles that load large chunks of data (in fairly optimized manner) will benefit little or nothing. Titles with shitty load schemes and/or lots of tiny data chunks should see a noticeable gain."TTP said:
I am still holding out hope that they might use some Flash for this(as with old PSP, PR never specified the real amount of internal flash) and keep ram for more useful things.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
That would be developers using it in the best way for good effect, whereas Fafalada believes the extra PSP RAM use will be entirely automatic. So no intelligent caching of specific data.Pimpbaa said:
It could also be interpreted like PS2's faster loading of PS1. The effect varied from game to game, just due to how loading was handled in the first place.TTP said:
By no means a credible source, but Tretton touched upon the memory usage in his interview with Kotaku:Fafalada said:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotakutalku/jack-tretton-on-psp-update-278503.php
"We increased the internal memory from 32... uh err what is it? megabits [sic] to 64, yeah. And err from what I understand that makes it conceivable for the development community to reduce the er load times. Erm but there is no, there is no game that I can point to that is an effective say in September 'this game will have reduced lead [sic] times' . So that technical capability is there but there are no practical applications of that yet, but I do think that will be an end result over time from what I'm told."
- Status