What is PS3 even selling these days? Certainly not at a rate of 5 millions in 2 years.
Dont have numbers but few millions could be possible.
Boyes confirmed recently that ps3 outsold 360....but thats not saying much about total sales.
What is PS3 even selling these days? Certainly not at a rate of 5 millions in 2 years.
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.
Scorpio.
Got all the bases covered?
I'm more focused on the US market since that's where all three console makers have a shot at winning holiday NPDs this year.
The way I heard it - Pro was a "free" artifact of the process switch - ie. they had to pay that cost if they wanted to get on smaller node, taking the upgraded APU was just a side benefit.
MS was in the same boat - but they had interests beyond process shrink, obviously.
They would sell more than their predition in 2017 if the have the $199 price cut this year. But seems it's gonna be 2018 instead. So if it's the case, I predict that FY2018 will be their peak year (with FFVIIR, Shenmue 3, TLOU2, etc).I'm curious if 2016 is really going to be the peak.
PS consoles don't decline in sales that fast because they get great software support during way more years compared to the others, even after the release of the next gen (which this time would be around 2020).They'll hit 100m in FY19 assuming:
FY17: 18m
FY18: 15m
FY19: 10m
That'll round off at 105m, so beating the PS1 & Wii and if it still sells well over 20/21 it might even beat the GB/GBC (118m) to second overall behind the PS2.
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.
Scorpio.
Got all the bases covered?
They'll hit 100m in FY19 assuming:
FY17: 18m
FY18: 15m
FY19: 10m
That'll round off at 105m, so beating the PS1 & Wii and if it still sells well over 20/21 it might even beat the GB/GBC (118m) to second overall behind the PS2.
The transition to PS5 will be more crucial than 2-3. The huge digital component of many users' libraries must surely lead to BC, and that will be the key thing they absolutely cannot drop the ball over. This is the last 'lock-in' generation and if they mess up BC I can see people leaving their ecosystem in droves.
They would sell more than their predition in 2017 if the have the $199 price cut this year. But seems it's gonna be 2018 instead. So if it's the case, I predict that FY2018 will be their peak year (with FFVIIR, Shenmue 3, TLOU2, etc).
They'll hit 100m in FY19 assuming:
FY17: 18m
FY18: 15m
FY19: 10m
That'll round off at 105m, so beating the PS1 & Wii and if it still sells well over 20/21 it might even beat the GB/GBC (118m) to second overall behind the PS2.
The transition to PS5 will be more crucial than 2-3. The huge digital component of many users' libraries must surely lead to BC, and that will be the key thing they absolutely cannot drop the ball over. This is the last 'lock-in' generation and if they mess up BC I can see people leaving their ecosystem in droves.
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.
Scorpio.
Got all the bases covered?
They would sell more than their predition in 2017 if the have the $199 price cut this year. But seems it's gonna be 2018 instead. So if it's the case, I predict that FY2018 will be their peak year (with FFVIIR, Shenmue 3, TLOU2, etc).
PS consoles don't decline in sales that fast because they get great software support during way more years compared to the others, even after the release of the next gen (which this time would be around 2020).
This time can be even longer because it's BC friendly for a future PS5 due to its hardware design. Same reason of why unlike with PS3, the $199 price will be possible with PS4, which means they will be able to sell it to the family & casual market + countries with low salaries or huge related taxes. It's having a huge success, which is another clue that leads to think it's going to have a longer than usual support.
And when aligned to launch, PS4 is following PS2 trend instead of PS1 trend. MS is migrating their games business to PC, and Nintendo are merging it with portables so Sony's market share will grow even more, which would result a longer, stronger PS4 support and a PS5 because would be so stupid to leave the console business when they are getting record numbers and this segment is being key for the company.
So considering everything I think it will end closer to 150M+(or even more) than to 100/120M.
If PS5 is fully BC the 4 won't have a long enough tail to get to 150m. If people can easily migrate their libraries and cross-gen development disappears within 2-3 years as it has this gen outside of a couple of licenced titles like FIFA, there won't be a need to buy a 4.
130m is maybe achievable but I don't think Sony would want another 150m+ unit eating into PS5 sales for 4 or 5 years of the gen.
An above-average portion (relative to previous generations) of the total consumer spend on games this generation has been from the hardcore segment, that's why you're seeing Sony (and Microsoft with Scorpio) try to create more products that cater to them.
Things look bleak for MS this holiday though... a lot of people on Gaf seem to think it'll be a generation reset where MS will simply start winning because they have the more powerful box that will be "the best place to play the big AAA 3rd party titles"... but all those third party titles have exclusive marketing agreements with Sony. Microsoft literally can't even mention Call of Duty, Battlefront 2, Red Dead, Destiny, etc's names in their marketing. That's not even getting into the likely price drops and bundles Sony will likely deploy simultaneously with Scorpio.
Is it confirmed, that Sony has a marketing deal with Take Two for RDR 2? I must have missed this info.
If PS5 is fully BC the 4 won't have a long enough tail to get to 150m. If people can easily migrate their libraries and cross-gen development disappears within 2-3 years as it has this gen outside of a couple of licenced titles like FIFA, there won't be a need to buy a 4.
130m is maybe achievable but I don't think Sony would want another 150m+ unit eating into PS5 sales for 4 or 5 years of the gen.
So has PSN surpassed Steam in revenue and sales?
PS consoles -all of them started as BC- traditionally sold very well after the release of the next ones, even outselling which were back then "next gen" consoles. Think that in 2020 the PS4 may be sold at $199 or even less.If PS5 is fully BC the 4 won't have a long enough tail to get to 150m. If people can easily migrate their libraries and cross-gen development disappears within 2-3 years as it has this gen outside of a couple of licenced titles like FIFA, there won't be a need to buy a 4.
130m is maybe achievable but I don't think Sony would want another 150m+ unit eating into PS5 sales for 4 or 5 years of the gen.
Impressive. I wonder if PS4 has had it's peak year and we'll see a slow year over year decline or if the peak year will end up being this year. Either way 100 million is pretty much guaranteed.
Missing MAU numbers.
Why Sony keep hiding MAU numbers from us, how do we know how successful is the platform without MAU.
2017 PS4 surpasses NES and 3DS.
Stopped guessing X1 numbers, but others should be up to date.
theses figures are outdated
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.
Scorpio.
Got all the bases covered?
Only the Ps4 nr is outdated. The 3DS and NES are correct according to nintendo themselves.
So do we know the attach rate of the PS4?
not even close.
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.
Scorpio.
Got all the bases covered?
So do we know the attach rate of the PS4?