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Sony open up M2 SSD port to beta testers of system software
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MasterCornholio
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Got my 2TB.
Bo_Hazem
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Full beta update walkthrough/nvme tests, transfer, game tests.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
Has he talked about noise levels??
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I actually just bought an m2 ssd for my pc today. the Samsung 980. It's 3.5 gbps and i wont lie, it was surprisingly easy to install on the motherboard. it literally just slots right in. though i did have to screw in the other side of the chip. still way way easier than installing those block ssds that need you to connect them to the power supply and another cable to connect them to the motherboard which is a pain in the ass because you have to open the back of the case and find all those cables. not to mention mounting them at the back of the case which is different for every case.
this was as simple as installing some ddr4 ram.
The biggest problem was trying to figure out which of these drives were supported by my motherboard. i just got burned by a motherboard my cpu didnt support so I was very apprehensive about buying an m2 ssd. I read the supported types again and again and there were just so many things to look at. is it m-key slot. is it 2280 or type 2200? is it pcie 3*4? luckily the one I picked was the right one, but I actually envy PS5 users who will have a select list of SSDs to find somewhere on the interwebs. I had no such luck and had to read the manual and then the box and then shop for those specs at various different websites.
I just dont see PS5 owners having to go through that. Bestbuy, walmart and even gamestop should have supported ssds on sale marked as PS5 compatible.
this was as simple as installing some ddr4 ram.
The biggest problem was trying to figure out which of these drives were supported by my motherboard. i just got burned by a motherboard my cpu didnt support so I was very apprehensive about buying an m2 ssd. I read the supported types again and again and there were just so many things to look at. is it m-key slot. is it 2280 or type 2200? is it pcie 3*4? luckily the one I picked was the right one, but I actually envy PS5 users who will have a select list of SSDs to find somewhere on the interwebs. I had no such luck and had to read the manual and then the box and then shop for those specs at various different websites.
I just dont see PS5 owners having to go through that. Bestbuy, walmart and even gamestop should have supported ssds on sale marked as PS5 compatible.
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3liteDragon
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StreetsofBeige
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How many possible compatible 5500+ speed SSDs are even in the market?
would not it be easier if Sony just tested them all for gamers and declare which ones work?
you don’t even have know the dimensions or anything. Just go by which ones Sony officially states works.
would not it be easier if Sony just tested them all for gamers and declare which ones work?
you don’t even have know the dimensions or anything. Just go by which ones Sony officially states works.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Just officially endorse the Samsung 980 Pro and be done with it, Sony.
kyliethicc
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Looks like Cerny just endorsed the WD SN850 heatsink model.
Simple as that. Good enough for the guy who built the PS5, good enough for me.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
$200 for 1tb. not bad at all.
these prices will come down in a couple of years. I am pretty sure barring some industry wide nand shortage, we will see 1TB ssds for $100. My 3.5 gbps gen 3 ssd cost me $100.
MC68000
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Following his lead. Just ordered from WD. Amazon and Newegg appear to be out of the 1TB w/heatsink.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Ordered the SN850 sadly Amazon have sold out of the model with the heat sink - so not being a total bell end here, can a kind person recommend me a heat sink that will be suitable?
Thanks.
Thanks.
aclar00
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I would think there would be two options the OS would given depending on the drive specs. If it meets it, then the drive will work like the internal. If not, then the drive would just be used as storage or for PS4 games. Or third option would be to allow games to operate with longer load times, particular for games not designed around the internall SSD speed.
MrFunSocks
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The OS won't know how all games use the SSD though. I also can't imagine that they would ever default it to act as an external drive either. The most likely scenario is if it passes the initial test when you install it it will be used as internal storage, and some games will perform badly with it.
ReBurn
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2TB The same price as a PS5 Digital - Check
holy heck $400
I'll just get a 1 TB and just not have as many games installed thanks
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Panajev2001a
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SSD get
. Even a slower one would fit so you can store some of those massive third party games like NBA2K for example.
Evilms
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sendit
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Md Ray
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Which is exactly what Cerny said they'll do.
EDIT: there you go:
He also liked a tweet mentioning Seagate's FireCuda 530.
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Rocco Schiavone
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Buy yourself a heatsink. The prices for the heatsink editions are ridiculous.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
For some reason, the SN850 2TB w heatsink is $115ish over the price from WD store. That’s insane.
As it is, unless there’s something really great about the preinstalled heat sink (or if someone isn’t comfortable putting a heat sink on), I think I like the less expensive ones you can put on. I don’t think the preinstalled one is removable. If needed, I’d like to be able to replace the one on it… at the least to replace thermal pads if needed.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I think this is put on wrong. The cylindrical spacer might go under the NVMe drive, not above. Looks like it's getting bent.
Be careful, people!
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MasterCornholio
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Your assuming that Sony didn't do any testing themselves. Pretty sure once the update is out their will be a list of supported drives.
Werewolfgrandma
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Any articles or videos have test results? My Google skills are lacking it seems.
MasterCornholio
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It would be cool to see Ratchet used as a benchmark. But if the NVME is as fast as the PS5s SSD there shouldn't be a downgrade in performance.
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
“Remove the screw (B) and spacer (C), and then adjust the spacer to the size of your M.2 SSD”…
“Hold the edge of your M.2 SSD, align it with the notch on the expansion connector, and then starting from diagonally upward firmly insert it all the way in.”…
“Tilt your M.2 SSD down and fasten it with screws.”.
Parts of the instructions on PS5s installation instructions on their site.
Reads like it goes within the notch of the NVME and then the screw fastens down through the spacer.
Bo_Hazem
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Why would he? What noise are you expecting?
MasterCornholio
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Bo_Hazem
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People are assuming that with the expansion SSD that the fan needs to rotate faster, which is not happening. All concern trolls got some genuine people confused.
Rocco Schiavone
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PS5 hating Clowns say with the internal Extension the console generates more Heat and the noise and fan speed levels rise. That's why.
MasterCornholio
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I read somewhere that the PS5 has multiple temperature sensors and one of them is located where the NVME slot is. I'm guessing if it heats up enough the PS5 could increase the fan speeds to compensate. But I don't believe it will he anywhere near as loud as the pro though.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I'm no concern control or PS5 hating clowns; it's just basic thermodynamics.. adding heat increases potential cooling needs. Same as if you had your PS5 in a hot room vs a cold room.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Long overdue, and has the potential to be amazing.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's been already well calculated. The space is pretty tight so there is no need for accelerated speed as air would travel much faster there.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I don't know why you think this.. additional heat is additional heat. It will heat the air being pulled into the system unless the SSD is lower than room temperature, which it surely isn't.
The only thing Sony would have "well calculated" is that it's all still reasonable under most conditions with most drives... but more heat will in some scenarios almost certainly increase the need for cooling.
Again, same as the hot vs cold room.
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MasterCornholio
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True and we have seen the PS5 handling cooling quite well since launch. There really isn't a huge complaint about the system overheating. Most of the noise complaints are around coil whine which isn't really connected to the systems cooling.
I'm guessing that it will handle the NVME just fine. And I'm not expecting a huge increase in the fan noise. It definitely won't go from whisper quiet to a PS4 Pro level of fan noise.
But we have to wait and see what happens to be sure.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Agreed; for me I keep my PS5's in air conditioned rooms and I've never heard either system's fans.. although.. there is a loud AC always on lol
RoadHazard
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People must be really stupid where you live. I don't know anyone who can't follow simple, numbered instructions to put some furniture together.
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Jigga117
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There are people who don’t know what an HDMI is until you point to it and they physically recognize it. Then try and plug it in the USB port under the HDMI port. They are everywhere
MasterCornholio
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But assuming the majority of people don't know how to plug a console in?
Isn't that a bit much?
Jigga117
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As network admins and installers in my world we see it daily. Some people feel it is beneath them to know how to build furniture or connect devices. I didn’t state that was the majority. Just that they are out there.
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MasterCornholio
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I can understand that but I really don't see it as a big issue. You're definitely going to have some people that are incapable of plugging a console in. But you shouldn't design a product for them if your average consumer will suffer due to it.
Kind of like if Sony chose to go with overpriced proprietary storage. The people capable of installing an NVME are going to suffer due to higher prices and the lack of choice just so a minority can benefit from easy to install storage.