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Sony Playstation: First Party Studios & their Current Projects
- Thread starter JuanLatino
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People will be upset - if this is true
Many are expecting for a 2018 release, which is kinda nonsense.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
Not surprised.
pixelation
Member
Thats a PSX thing
Please tell me you know something!!! :O
Yeah that's pretty sill since they just release another game this year.
Yeah, many people got also upset because they did not release a trailer at E3.
Some people with their expectations.....
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Shawn Lauren-This is being announced alil early but the studio wanted to show you what theyre working on
Ppl-Omfg 2018!
Ppl-Omfg 2018!
Thats a PSX thing
I could see it being at either
A new mid-tier Sly Cooper would be a cool Paris announcement
NotSmartEnough
Member
Dreams beta date in 2017, full VR support with release in Q1/2 2018.
Colony Wars and G-Police VR remakes.
brickarts295
Member
Gotta spread them out.
2018
God of War
Shadow of the Colossus
Spider-Man
2018/2019
Days Gone
Dreams
Detroit
Wild
2019
The Last of Us Part 2
2020/Future/Unknown
Death Stranding
Sucker Punch New I.P.
GG Next Game (Most likely Horizon 2)
London Next Game
Japan Next Game
Nah it be something similar to Ratchet & Clank along side the TV series.
D
Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
I think that TLOUP2 will be a 2020 PS4/PS5 cross gen game along with Death Stranding.
DriftingSpirit
Member
TLoU is 2019 at the latest.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
Not cross gen but it will defs get a remastered version for PS5 (TLOU) imo. DS might end up being cross gen.
I mean they had very good turn around times during PS3 era so 2018 was not totally crazy but yes 2019 was always going to be safe bet.
You are absolutely crazy if you think the game will be out in 2020 lol. My prediction is first half 2019 but the latest it will be is fall 2019 but I also think there is a 50-50 chance ps5 will be out fall 2019.
With ps5 most likely having Bc I am not sure if they will do a remaster or just give it a patch.
We haven't got a single piece of information so far this year.
DriftingSpirit
Member
PS5 will be backward compatible. I could see DS possibly being cross gen though.
SunDimension24
Member
Kojima is sort of a perfectionist and he has free reign to make what he wants. I would be surprised if it was anytime sooner than late 2019/2020.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
New IPs usually take 4-6 years to make, 2020 might even be a bit optimistic.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Imagine PS5 launch titles for November 2019.
TLoU2, Death Stranding and FFVIIR lol
TLoU2, Death Stranding and FFVIIR lol
DriftingSpirit
Member
PS5 in 2020.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Kojima takes 3-5 years for sequels. Why do you think a new IP would be any shorter?
VanCityGamer
Member
There is no chance at all that TLOU 2 takes until 2020.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
To be fair, because this time he has complete freedom and not bogged down by Konami-tier bureaucracy.
Theslammer
Member
Kojima has an engine to use already. It's not like MGS3 to MGS4 where he had to develop a new engine for a new system, and then do so again from Peace Walker to MGS5. So that's working in his favor, I'm sure.
Really looking forward to seeing what the game will be. I loved MGS5, and Sony's more likely to give him the time/resources he needs over Konami.
VanCityGamer
Member
You're missing The Lost Legacy which has come out between Uncharted 4 and TLOU 2. Also that Uncharted 4 was essentially rebooted when Amy left (differences in creative vision, not tech reasons).
LiquidSolid
Member
So just like TLOU2 then? We'll probably see both games in December. Death Stranding at The Game Awards, TLOU2 at PSX.
More like 2-4 years.
The exaggeration surrounding Kojima's dev times is ridiculous. My bet is late 2019.
"Time to triangle" is what is shorter. That is not all that makes a game. Time to ship a game increases with level of detail and amount of content too.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The game ended pre-production like last month and was announced like three months after it started pre-production >_>
DriftingSpirit
Member
-They threw out portions of UC4 when Amy left. That obviously set them back.
-They just released The Lost Legacy (most of the team was wrapping that up)
-Games are bigger than ever. Even though the PS4 makes development easier, it doesn't make up for how much more expansive games are now. This applies to even linear games.
Source?
They also did TLOU Remastered themselves. Naughty Dog's output has been fine this generation. Perhaps even impressive considering what other devs have managed so far and their staff shake-up.
I also expect TLOU2 in spring/summer 2019.
If they were to make the exact same game they were making on the ps3, then it would probably be shorter. But games are more complex and ambitious then last gen. You can have higher quality textures, more animations, sounds and a lot of stuff that you couldn't before, and all that takes time.
LiquidSolid
Member
Do you think Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 4 look and play identically?
Development is easier than ever but they aren't developed in a vacuum. Standards have risen enormously over the last 10 years, so devs have to do even more to keep up with expectations and stand out from the crowd.
mortal
Gold Member
Death Stranding is currently the title that I'm most anticipating.
I'm glad we don't know too much about it at the moment, and even knowing how badly I want a new trailer, I think I'd prefer much of that mystery to remain until an official release date is confirmed.
God knows I love me a Kojima trailer. Hell, I get put onto new music thanks to his trailers.
I'm glad we don't know too much about it at the moment, and even knowing how badly I want a new trailer, I think I'd prefer much of that mystery to remain until an official release date is confirmed.
God knows I love me a Kojima trailer. Hell, I get put onto new music thanks to his trailers.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Personally I do think at some point somethings gonna have to be done otherwise well be looking at even longer dev times in the future
Dev times aren't getting shorter. That's why most two team studios reverted back to a single team. To release a game in a reasonable timeframe they needed more people. Ceteris paribus dev time time might be shorter but they aren't making PS3 games anymore.
I think Death Stranding is definitely a 2020+ game. 4 years for a big brand new IP doesn't seem unreasonable.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Right, I want that stuff to eventually plateau. I'm fine with not having considerable gains in graphics, textures, etc... if it means more financially stable games with focus on gameplay systems more than anything else.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I mean, they had all of their staff working on UC4 because of Amy leaving and then only had a few months before December 2016 to work at all on Last of Us 2.
And then their main development staff was still working on Lost Legacy until last month.
So they could still be in pre-production, but by the most optimistic estimates, they barely were able to start full production after Lost Legacy was finished.
Theslammer
Member
Lost Legacy took a year, which was impressive considering some of the areas you encounter and the last chapter in general.
But to add to what others have said about games being more ambitious, take the most impressive set piece of Uncharted 2 -- probably the train. On a technical level, the big Ch. 11 sequence is more impressive and ambitious than in 2. The amount of road and paths you can take while driving, the wide open area you encounter when you try to catch the convoy, the transition to hanging from the truck, then outrunning the truck on your motorcycle, is more work and, with graphics being as impressive as they are, takes more manpower. That's not even taking into account that Uncharted 4 is a much bigger and longer game than 2 or 3 and especially 1.
Development and time it takes to make *playable code* is shorter. If they were using architecture as complicated as with the PS3, you can bet you'd be waiting way longer compared to the PS4's architecture.
If it truly works out that I could get God of War, Detroit, Spiderman and Days Gone in the same year 2018, I would be absolutely over the fucken moon.
Miniature Kaiju
Member
I think most people don't really realise that games this gen are orders of magnitude bigger, more complex and of higher fidelity than the previous generation.
Guerrilla Games kinda hinted at a solution: procedural content generation. The way they used it in their tools, the map was mostly populated by "painting" features, instead of individually placing and tweaking elements. Several different layers of features interacted with each other, from geography to road system to water table; and changed each other.
This kind of tooling vastly reduces the time required to iterate on the map. I think adoption of similar technology in other parts of the art pipeline can vastly speed up dev times and reduce developmental costs.
Asset reuse and outsourcing are other areas that they can invest on.
Theslammer
Member
Detroit's been confirmed for 2018. I think Days Gone is looking at a 2018 release as well.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yeah, Sony was only putting 2018 dates on games that were coming out in the first half of 2018, david cage came out and confirmed detroit 2018, days gone looks like it could be 2018 but not confident enough to announce it yet.
Theslammer
Member
If all goes well and Shawn Layden's, "2018 games are coming out within 12 - 13 months," comes true, then that would leave us with God of War, Shadow of the Colossus and Spider-Man in the first half of the year, and perhaps Detroit: Become Human, Days Gone and Dreams later.
In between you'd get everything else.
I'd love for Supermassive and Housemarque to join the family and get in on all the resources. Housemarque likes its independence right now, though, so perhaps they'll just enjoy the partnership as is. Supermassive I think would benefit as, from everything I've seen over the years, Sony is pretty good at giving their studios leeway, perks/benefits and resouces.