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[bxrz]

Looks like they sent a statement to the Brazil commission and they admit that none of their devs can make a game that rivals COD. They also say that COD is so big that it influences peoples choice of platform

Seems they are fighting to keep it multiplat and it doesn't look like they will try to compete against it

 

[64bitmodels]

If microsoft could do it sony can too

 

[Kagey K]

They are negative about the acquisition in general

Sony: We like to buy stuff but don't like it when our competition does.

 

[Pagusas]

Whats the point of being in business if you can't make purchases/deals to put you ahead of your competition? Why would Sony's lack of ability to create an ecosystem like COD's have any impact on this deal getting approved or not?

 

[RoadHazard]

Good. Make interesting games instead, like you usually do.

 

[saturnalian]

I hope something like this would shut down the deal wherever it can, just to spite MS. They're a behemoth that literally cannot be competed against.

Microsoft needs to be broken up, like yesterday.

EDIT: Everybody "LOL"ing at my comment: I am serious. Microsoft has been a menace way longer than they've been in the game industry. Their acquisitions are never a good thing for any industry (gaming or otherwise).

 

[Pejo]

It's time, boys.

First, a Halo killer, now a COD killer:

 

[Fart Knight]

 

[radewagon]

Probably true. Sony likes money. If they could make a game that rivals COD's odd stranglehold on the multiplayer fps market, they would have done it already.

 

[Knightime_X]

Sony is just mad because all the times they fucked over xbox they got fucked back.
Sony definitely doesn't like to share.
Ms is playing nice. For now.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Negative about the acquisition? No shit lmao

Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again

Sony would have done the exact same thing, but maybe take mw2 away and timed exclusive warzone updates for playstation, tough shit

I have both consoles, but now every entry is hitting game pass day 1, thanks Microsoft

 

[oldergamer]

This is pretty funny and anti competitive. Meanwhile, the deal wouldnt make ms as big as sony in the game market, especially after sony made more acquisitions.

 

[Mr Moose]

Title is misleading, it says EA, Take Two/Rockstar and Epic can't make a game like CoD.

 

[TGO]

It's true, the only way would be a complete clone.
Infinity Ward just hit the nail on the head with the original MW.

But it doesn't stop others Devs from making something just as well received but different.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Negative about the acquisition? No shit lmao

Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again

Sony would have done the exact same thing, but maybe take mw2 away and timed exclusive warzone updates for playstation, tough shit

I have both consoles, but now every entry is hitting game pass day 1, thanks Microsoft

Link?

 

[Yoboman]

That's fair

Activision have half a dozen developers making these to pump it out yearly

 

[LegendOfKage]

That's pretty sad, considering COD hasn't been good for years now. Breaking up lobbies to ensure player retention with predetermined wins and losses doesn't mix well with a game that encourages killstreaks. That, and modern COD developers refuse to allow players to silence their footsteps, which just encourages camping and discourages movement. I play every beta every year, and the game just isn't fun anymore.

 

[DeepSpace5D]

From reading the text under Sony’s name, I don’t see them mentioning their first-party studios anywhere.

It looks like they are talking about other third-party developers.

 

[ManaByte]

That's pretty sad, considering COD hasn't been good for years now. Breaking up lobbies to ensure player retention with predetermined wins and losses doesn't mix well with a game that encourages killstreaks. That, and modern COD developers refuse to allow players to silence their footsteps, which just encourages camping and discourages movement. I play every beta every year, and the game just isn't fun anymore.

I played a bit of Warzone to unlock the Kong/Godzilla stuff. But I haven't touched much of Vanguard since December.

 

[ZywyPL]

Nobody can rival CoD except the OG ex-CoD devs a k.a. Respawn Entertainment. TF1&2 at their core play exactly like CoD but have their own twist and uniqueness added to it. Most other devs out there don't even know how to make good controls to begin with.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Oh no, poor Sony.

I don't blame them from trying to stop this sale but I just want it to be over.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Whats the point of being in business if you can't make purchases/deals to put you ahead of your competition? Why would Sony's lack of ability to create an ecosystem like COD's have any impact on this deal getting approved or not?

Because it could weaken PlayStation and their ability to stay competitive.

 

[Topher]

Oh no, poor Sony.

I don't blame them from trying to stop this sale but I just want it to be over.

No, poor OP. Misleading title. Sony does not say none of "their devs" can make a rival to COD.

edit: Thread title originally stated that Sony said their own devs couldn't make a game that rivaled CoD.

 

[Pagusas]

Because it could weaken PlayStation and their ability to stay competitive.

and? Welcome to the world of business. It would be one thing if it was establishing a monopoly, but its not.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

and? Welcome to the world of business. It would be one thing if it was establishing a monopoly, but its not.

You don't seem to grasp what weakning competition does do you?

 

[adamsapple]

Didn't they like just buy a prestige fps making studio ?

 

[Kenneth Haight]

I used to LOVE COD, now I would much rather have Sonys first party than COD. I might buy MW2 at some stage, I loved the first one (and the og’s on 360) but have skipped the others since then.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Didn't they like just buy a prestige fps making studio ?

Unless they name it Call of Duty it's not competing with Call of Duty. No matter how good it is

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Link?

Common sense. Microsoft has stated repeatedly during acquisitions that they aren't going to take games away from anyone. Like warzone and mw2 which exist/have been announced for playstation. They don't want to muddy the waters too much with this and future acquisitions.

Future mainline titles haven't been announced, and exclusive call of duty is the best way to add Sony users to their marketplace, why the fuck would they give 30% of new game revenue to Sony lol. Unless Sony waives that it's not going to happen.

It'll also be on pc, and phones through xcloud

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

It's true, the only way would be a complete clone.

Even a clone wouldn’t work ....

The Call of Duty IP is a brand name now so anything labeled "Call of Duty" ends up selling even if its not a good game. Sony also don't have the best track record with successful FPS shooters, Killzone is the only one and that game never came close to Halo or Call of duty. This is why they brought Bungie, to help gain more expertise in live service/online based games.

 

[DeadOblivion78]

No, poor OP. Misleading title. Sony does not say none of "their devs" can make a rival to COD.

OP is a joke and a fraudster.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Well of course they wont say something to help a competitor.

Alot of people are loyal to COD and wouldnt even go to a competitor.

 

[DenchDeckard]

No, poor OP. Misleading title. Sony does not say none of "their devs" can make a rival to COD.

They are basically saying it without saying it. A business would never say we can't do it. Instead they've said none of the biggest developers on the planet could make a comoetitor. That's basically saying including themselves without saying it.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. They just want to try and stop it going through. I wonder if it will have any effect on it.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

You don't seem to grasp what weakning competition does do you?

Damn, good thing sony has never done anything like that

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Common sense. Microsoft has stated repeatedly during acquisitions that they aren't going to take games away from anyone. Like warzone and mw2 which exist/have been announced for playstation. They don't want to muddy the waters too much with this and future acquisitions.

Future mainline titles haven't been announced, and exclusive call of duty is the best way to add Sony users to their marketplace, why the fuck would they give 30% of new game revenue to Sony lol. Unless Sony waives that it's not going to happen.

It'll also be on pc, and phones through xcloud

Common sense would tell you to listen what Microsoft's lawyers are saying to regulators. Which is the games aren't going exclusive.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I played a bit of Warzone to unlock the Kong/Godzilla stuff. But I haven't touched much of Vanguard since December.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Common sense. Microsoft has stated repeatedly during acquisitions that they aren't going to take games away from anyone. Like warzone and mw2 which exist/have been announced for playstation. They don't want to muddy the waters too much with this and future acquisitions.

Future mainline titles haven't been announced, and exclusive call of duty is the best way to add Sony users to their marketplace, why the fuck would they give 30% of new game revenue to Sony lol. Unless Sony waives that it's not going to happen.

It'll also be on pc, and phones through xcloud

You said....

"Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again"

A link or you are a lying troll

 

[Gambit2483]

Whats the point of being in business if you can't make purchases/deals to put you ahead of your competition? Why would Sony's lack of ability to create an ecosystem like COD's have any impact on this deal getting approved or not?

It's creates a monopoly. Monopolies will almost always increasingly become anti-consumer

 

[ANDS]

This is pretty funny and anti competitive. Meanwhile, the deal wouldnt make ms as big as sony in the game market, especially after sony made more acquisitions.

How does pushing for a brand vital to gaming not being isolated to one platform come across as "anti-competitive" to you? It is a fair - and absolutely self-serving - statement.

You said....

"Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again"

A link or you are a lying troll

That's not how "forecasting" works.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Damn, good thing sony has never done anything like that

What a cop out response lol

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Common sense would tell you to listen what Microsoft's lawyers are saying to regulators. Which is the games aren't going exclusive.

They aren't going exclusive whatsoever. Mw2 will be on playstation, so will warzone in continuity. They're also going to pc, and phones/tvs through xcloud, as will all mainline titles that aren't on playstation.

ESO is still on playstation, they've announced ES 6 won't be, just like fallout 76 will continue to be, and fallout 5 won't be (in 20 years lol)

 

[DenchDeckard]

This bit from Sony is crazy....

"They say that over the past five years, Game Pass has grown to capture approximately 60-70% of the global subscription services market (that marketshare is even greater in Brazil, where Game Pass represents approximately 70-80% of the PC subscription services market).

They believe that it would take several years for a competitor – even with substantial investments – to create a rival effective for Game Pass.

Call of Duty represents an important revenue stream for the PlayStation (they provided data but it's redacted), and it is one of SIE's biggest sources of revenue from third parties."

They seem shook.

 

[Banjo64]

No shit Sherlock. If it was that easy to make a yearly shooter that is a 20m plus seller everyone would do it.

 

[ManaByte]

How does pushing for a brand vital to gaming not being isolated to one platform come across as "anti-competitive" to you? It is a fair - and absolutely self-serving - statement.

I don't see how it's any different than what Sony did with Tomb Raider on the original PlayStation.

 

[Jennings]

"What am I to you, chopped liver?" -Bungie

 

[Topher]

They are basically saying it without saying it.

It isn't what was said. Period. You really want this board to start getting creative when quoting Microsoft or Sony in the future with this "but they are saying it without saying it" nonsense? Nope. Not me. Thread titles need to be accurate. This one is wrong. That's all there is to it.

 

[Kagey K]

This bit from Sony is crazy....

"They say that over the past five years, Game Pass has grown to capture approximately 60-70% of the global subscription services market (that marketshare is even greater in Brazil, where Game Pass represents approximately 70-80% of the PC subscription services market).

They believe that it would take several years for a competitor – even with substantial investments – to create a rival effective for Game Pass.

Call of Duty represents an important revenue stream for the PlayStation (they provided data but it's redacted), and it is one of SIE's biggest sources of revenue from third parties."

They seem shook.

Wait I was told that Playpass (PS++) would automatically have double the users on day 1.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

They aren't going exclusive whatsoever. Mw2 will be on playstation, so will warzone in continuity. They're also going to pc, and phones/tvs through xcloud, as will all mainline titles that aren't on playstation.

ESO is still on playstation, they've announced ES 6 won't be, just like fallout 76 will continue to be, and fallout 5 won't be (in 20 years lol)

Microsoft said they'll continue to support existing communities and honour existing contracts re the Bethesda deal

Microsoft said the above, in addition to pledging that they'll continue to release games beyond those contracts re the Activision deal

Again, listen the lawyers.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

You said....

"Sony will get mw2, continued warzone updates, and never see a mainline entry again"

A link or you are a lying troll

Still holding out hope for ES6? OW2

They didn't buy Activision to give 30 percent of revenue to Sony. But they're not going to pull existing games that have been announced (we have examples already) or already exist because it'd be a PR shit storm, and increase scrutiny on future acquisitions.

 

[ManaByte]

Microsoft said they'll continue to support existing communities and honour existing contracts re the Bethesda deal

Microsoft said the above, in addition to pledging that they'll continue to release games beyond those contracts re the Activision

Again, listen the lawyers.

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