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[Sho_Nuff82]

VR is the sort of thing you need celebrities to sell it to the public.

Sony just needs to get some of their music artists and actors to do some first impression sort of videos, kind of like how did with their P.T ads, except with some discussion at the end. Don't do it live, but make sure they're all good reactions to build up some major hype.

It doesn't need a E3 live stage demonstration.

VR will sell by in-store demos and show floor demos. It's impossible to convey how it actually feels until you try it yourself. No celebrity endorsement will beat the WoM that will come out of GDC and PAX. It will have to grow organically like Wii Sports did.

People on the PAX showfloor love VR. That's thousands and thousands of gamers walking around telling their friends about their experience. Sony needs to do that at E3, along with every game show between now and launch. The conference itself is meaningless for the technology except for showing a graphically impressive game that can be the "face" of the technology, and for the media soundbites.

 

[Shin-Ra]

I hope Supermassive are making Tumble 2.

Best PS Move game.

 

[kamakazi5]

I wouldn't mind them giving some time to it but with a release date of "first half 2016" it just screams holiday 2016. Wait until we get closer or at least only devote 5-10 minutes to it.

 

[EventHorizon]

Since Morpheus will be coming out next year I don't expect a huge VR push at E3. Their focus will be on selling consoles for the holiday season. VR will be used mainly as a tease to differentiate with the Xbox to get those who have already decided to buy a console to pick the PS4 over the XB1. Sony will likely hold a special event next year just for Morpheus to kick it off and will save their ammo for then to get maximum impact.

 

[loaf of bread]

VR will sell by in-store demos and show floor demos. It's impossible to convey how it actually feels until you try it yourself. No celebrity endorsement will beat the WoM that will come out of GDC and PAX. It will have to grow organically like Wii Sports did.

People on the PAX showfloor love VR. That's thousands and thousands of gamers walking around telling their friends about their experience. Sony needs to do that at E3, along with every game show between now and launch. The conference itself is meaningless for the technology except for showing a graphically impressive game that can be the "face" of the technology, and for the media soundbites.

Yep. And Sony knows this and has said it as well. I tried to find it but its too hard with the slew of news from the past couple days. Basically they said that they understand how a conference or show isn't really a good or viable way to show VR and that they needed to focus on floor demos.

 

[plainr_]

VR is the sort of thing you need celebrities to sell it to the public..

Hire Laurence Fishburne to reenact this scene for a commercial.

Boom.

 

[IAmRandom31]

Hopefully they actually show something resembling a full AAA game, or at least a big budget effort...

Nm.

I'm guessing you meant for a VR effort.

 

[_Ryo_]

Hmm. Tell me if I'm right. Sony has sold > 20.2 million PS4s since launch, if they continue with that trajectory it'll be about 45 million sold in about 2 years and 2 months. If even 1/3rd of 45 million PS4 owners buy their VR device, they'll sell about 15 million of them.

15 million is a very respectable number for a gaming peripheral. It makes sense that they start working on games for it.

 

[boredandlazy]

Hmm. Tell me if I'm right. Sony has sold > 20.2 million PS4s since launch, if they continue with that trajectory it'll be about 45 million sold in about 2 years and 2 months. If even 1/3rd of 45 million PS4 owners buy their VR device, they'll sell about 15 million of them.

15 million is a very respectable number for a gaming peripheral. It makes sense that they start working on games for it.

Imagine if China was to buy into VR. If only 1%...

 

[_Ryo_]

Imagine if China was to buy into VR. If only 1%...

I don't think my question is comparable to that joke. I'm talking about a already set number of PS4 owners that are already engaged in the Sony ecosystem. But I might be wrong. I often am. :/

 

[Shin-Ra]

Imagine if China was to buy into VR. If only 1%...

I expected this.

Zindagi's been working on something for a long time. Hopefully they focus on fleshing out one or two really great ideas instead of another larger sports compilation with lots of dud events.

Do Table Tennis with official rules and craploads of goofy challenges like Virtua Tennis. Either go in the Rockstar Table Tennis full realistic graphics direction or full stylised. Not the Sports Champions / Sunset Overdrive wacky humanoid fug.

 

[boredandlazy]

I don't think my question is comparable to that joke. I'm talking about a already set number of PS4 owners that are already engaged in the Sony ecosystem. But I might be wrong. I often am. :/

I wasn't having a go at you. I just thought it was an opportunity to throw that in there.

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

Nm.

I'm guessing you meant for a VR effort.

Yeah, VR effort. I just remember with the move, the biggest ground up game for it they had was that Magician game...which anyone looking at the rest of their E3 output would have noticed was no where near the level of the other games

 

[Xplatformer]

I wasn't saying, I bought a PS4 at launch to qualify how much of a worthwhile customer I was.

I was saying it, to demonstrate, I still don't feel there's enough worthwhile software on ANY of the next-gen platforms. And maybe letting developers for ONCE just focus on games, and not introduce more useless technology, might stop distraction from populating this generation with some unique or special games.

While I do look forward to Morpheus, I agree about this generation of games so far.

 

[The Last One]

People don't need to be worried about taking too much of their E3 conference. Knowing sony they'd probably make the conference last longer.

 

[rbanke]

I'm very excited about VR done right (a bit worried because I get nausea while playing some games though), but I hope the rush of VR doesn't push normal games to the way side too much. I feel like games have been fairly lackluster as a whole since this generation started and to put too much focus into VR without first satisfying people who bought consoles and want/also want to play regular games would be disappointing.

I'm not really too worried about it as I get the feeling there will be some great stuff this year but that's the perception I get from the huge VR focus right now.


Also as someone who has a family, secluding myself from everyone to play a game is going to be a huge rarity so if all the emphasis on gaming becomes about VR, its going to suck a bit for those in the same situation as me.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Hire Laurence Fishburne to reenact this scene for a commercial.

Boom.

This would be pretty awesome.

"You take the red pill and get to use Morpheus".

 

[HORRORSHØW]

show me actual games. these tech demos are cool and all but i want to see what i'll be playing.

 

[serversurfer]

show me actual games. these tech demos are cool and all but i want to see what i'll be playing.

That's the funny thing. The title of the OP says, "more," but in the video Shu actually comments that they haven't shown any Sony games yet, and they'll probably start at E3. lol

 

[Nightengale]

This would be pretty awesome.

"You take the red pill and get to use Morpheus".

Nah, blue pill.

Neo would go " blue?" and it turns out there's a PlayStation logo on it.

 

[Ran rp]

Never knew I wanted Gravity Rush VR until now. I don't know how I never imagined it.

 

[Nanashrew]

They should get Cirque Du Soleil to demonstrate what VR can do.

 

[Kaako]

Hope they show some compelling software and some really out there experimental Morpheus tech demos.

 

[DavidDesu]

Oh you don't need to convince me I'm a massive supporter of VR. It just blows my mind at how much opposition it seems to get on GAF of all places

There is an obscene lack of imagination regarding what VR is and what it can be. Literally nothing in the history of gaming has excited me this much =P

YES! I'm not entirely sure what some gamers are thinking writing it off. Not this time. All the tech is there, this is the beginning of something transformative. Quite why gamers are suddenly not fussed about being inside of a gameworld is beyond me. Playing on a flat screen is as far as they want to go... I don't get it.

 

[ChronotriggerJM]

YES! I'm not entirely sure what some gamers are thinking writing it off. Not this time. All the tech is there, this is the beginning of something transformative. Quite why gamers are suddenly not fussed about being inside of a gameworld is beyond me. Playing on a flat screen is as far as they want to go... I don't get it.

Well it's especially crazy considering just how much gaming is done as a solo experience. I mean yes, we all love multi-player shared screen games, but I doubt it constitutes the bulk of anyone's game time, plus, it's not like those are going away any time soon.

I guess seeing really is believing, at least for many it seems. It's just beyond me how anyone could be against the technology. Even thinking about 3rd person games and VR has me enthused.

 

[Dazza]

It will have to grow organically like Wii Sports did.

you didn't noticed the amount of celebrity exposure Wii Sports got?

 

[O C]

What are the chances of Sony releasing Morpheus early to game stores so we can have a preview of it?

OT : I would love to see Bethesda come out on stage and announce a Skyrim HD remaster/Fallout 3 + NV + DLC remaster with Morpheus support...or just for Morpheus, to say sorry for the mess that Skyrim was.

Any of the Vr guys know what the likelyhood of a VR AAA game being announced for Morpheus or with Morpheus support is?

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Ugh, wasting time on gimmicks.

 

[Toparaman]

Ugh, wasting time on gimmicks.

That remains to be seen.

 

[slavesnyder]

If the games are actually good - why not.

Only thing that bothers me is that you cannot really wow people with a 3D helmet in a stage show. You have to wear it to understand. putting someone on stage with the thing on his head going "wow, that's so cool" would be stupid.
Only thing to do it would be: give everyone in the audience a morpheus and let them watch the demo played on stage in 3D. this would be terrific.
Question to the tech experts: would this be doable somehow, even if it costs a lot?

 

[Plasma]

Can't be any worse than the Powers section from their conference last year.

 

[mrklaw]

Come on guys, this isn't something you should be complaining about. Its fine to complain about stuff like the Powers segment because no one wants to watch that but don't complain about VR. It may not interest you but it interests many others so just suck it up and go to the bathroom or something.

Also lets not start another concern train. Just because he says they want to show Morpheus games doesn't mean much. He can mean they want to show more at E3 ie. the floor. Not during the conference.

Sony or Shu has already gone on record saying a conference isn't a very viable way to show VR and that they need to focus on demos on the floor.

Anyway,s can't wait for 10 minutes out of 2 hours to be about VR and people to say it was like 45 minutes.

If I was being concerned (which I'm not, I'm hugely looking forward to it), I wouldn't be concerned at how much time sony uses in a conference. I'd be concerned about how many resources are being taken away from normal PS4 titles to work on VR.

That is a very fine balancing act needed by Sony. There will be normal PS4 games, PS4 games with small changes to support VR (eg gran Turismo or other seated games), and VR only games.



Bear in mind too that this is likely the last E3 before this launches, and the last big US show. I'm sure we'll see more at gamescom and maybe playstation experience, but they need to show it properly this year.

 

[OfficerZap]

Makes sense.

By including Morpheus now, they're looking to prime hype for the launch in 2016, while also evolving their PS4 offering.

Keeping people invested in their solution, and more importantly stopping them from looking next door, is essential for maintaining market dominance.

Also have to keep in mind that they need to come out swinging vs the PC VR solutions.

 

[mrklaw]

If the games are actually good - why not.

Only thing that bothers me is that you cannot really wow people with a 3D helmet in a stage show. You have to wear it to understand. putting someone on stage with the thing on his head going "wow, that's so cool" would be stupid.
Only thing to do it would be: give everyone in the audience a morpheus and let them watch the demo played on stage in 3D. this would be terrific.
Question to the tech experts: would this be doable somehow, even if it costs a lot?

Morpheus has passthrough so you see a normal picture on a TV so others can share your experience. So seeing a person on stage ducking etc, along with the picture of what they are seeing, should get the message across pretty well. Not as good as having a demo yourself of course.

No, you couldn't give a morpheus to everyone in the audience. It is fundamental to allow camera control to be by the person wearing it - if you wore a HMD and your movement was done by someone else, you'd freak out pretty damn quickly,

 

[TheGuardian]

I read Eidos London were responsible The Heist demo. Is this a new Eidos or are they the ones owned by SE?

Its Sony London studio, not eidos

 

[kyser73]

I would lick that sweat.

 

[slavesnyder]

Morpheus has passthrough so you see a normal picture on a TV so others can share your experience. So seeing a person on stage ducking etc, along with the picture of what they are seeing, should get the message across pretty well. Not as good as having a demo yourself of course.

I know that it has passthrough. but watching someone on stage experiencing 3 D immersion while you follow his adventures in 2 on screen is like hearing a sports match on the radio. Nice, but not the real deal.

No, you couldn't give a morpheus to everyone in the audience. It is fundamental to allow camera control to be by the person wearing it - if you wore a HMD and your movement was done by someone else, you'd freak out pretty damn quickly,

okay, thanks. I thought it would be something like this, but in this forum you never know if there is not a genious who figured out how to make this work.

So, my conclusion: Do it but keep it short. Maybe at least hand out 3D-glasses.

 

[SolidusDave]

This E3 might show the potential biggest advantage Morpheus has compared to other VR solutions. Sony can easily become the biggest single VR content developer&producer.

Morpheus has passthrough so you see a normal picture on a TV so others can share your experience. So seeing a person on stage ducking etc, along with the picture of what they are seeing, should get the message across pretty well. Not as good as having a demo yourself of course.

This reminds me, I was wondering if Share-Play will support VR games as well. I'm pretty sure it will allow watching but not actually sharing the controller (and now in 60 fps). Might be a good marketing tool to boost VR. Showing your friends online how you interact 1:1 with objects while constantly shouting in party chat "omg, omg, everything is so real".