Thanks! I'll have a trawl through the thread for things to keep hadny for when I eventually buy the thing.
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Sony X800D well - reviewed, 4k+HDR TV with low input lag
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Thanks! I'll have a trawl through the thread for things to keep hadny for when I eventually buy the thing.
Parapraxis
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I'm starting to strongly favor the 900e, for the couple hundred more it seems to be worth it. Especially given the x800e review @rtings.
Unknown?
Member
How do you switch to display scaling??
I got the 49" x900e. Its realy nice. But look at the end of the rtings review, because it uses a kinda crappy upscaler for some reason, and some, not all, of my 1080p games look kinda bad.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e
But i was able to set a few different resolutions through nvidia inspector to run native 120hz, which is great for some games, but for some reason when the tv is set to 120hz the picture quality suffers, looks interlaced, so I usually just leave to run at 60hz.
But Im happy with it. Have both my PC and PS4 Pro hooked up to it.
Game and Graphics modes use different kinds of scaling. Try both. They have the same input lag.
Oh shit didnt realize that, thanks.
Unknown?
Member
So what did you do exactly?
UltimaPooh
Member
How is input lag on it when it comes to your PC?
Just turn of GPU scaling in the Nvidia/Radeon configuration.
X900E in 1080p120 mode does not use advanced upscaling techniques. Image looks raw. Rtings mentioned it https://i.imgur.com/JC6Xvr7.jpg
Yeah, Graphics is really nice for certain applications (pixel art games, etc.) as it's nearest neighbor with no filtering.
So I've given myself a budget of £1,000 for the TV and a few other things that really make use of it. So far I've got:
- Horizon: Zero Dawn
- Xbox One S 500GB w/ Forza Horizon 3
- Planet Earth 2 4KBD
- Life of Pi 4KBD
Any other small things I should add or things I should change? I've already got stuff like Infamous: SS and UC4 for some good HDR content.
Also, is the colour quality of the 43 inch version that much better than the 49 inch to justify its smaller size and worse viewing angles? Either is fine but I'd definitely prefer the larger model if the downsides aren't as bad.
- Horizon: Zero Dawn
- Xbox One S 500GB w/ Forza Horizon 3
- Planet Earth 2 4KBD
- Life of Pi 4KBD
Any other small things I should add or things I should change? I've already got stuff like Infamous: SS and UC4 for some good HDR content.
Also, is the colour quality of the 43 inch version that much better than the 49 inch to justify its smaller size and worse viewing angles? Either is fine but I'd definitely prefer the larger model if the downsides aren't as bad.
The difference is not color quality (both are fine) but the contrast ratio. VA has 4x-5x better contrast than IPS, and contrast is one of hte most important parts of the image quality. Essentially, because of the poor contrast, blacks on the 49X800D IPS will be "dark gray". Viewing in dark enviroment will be quite poor.
The current reccomendation is entry level 43X800D (43XD8005) or midrange 49X900E (49XE9005), but price difference between them is quite high. If you have to get IPS X800D, just know that contrast will be far from the best.
Avoid X800E series.
Gunslinger
Member
Not getting the update on x800d. Anywhere in the TV I can look for update? I know Samsung TVs had a built in system like that.
Hmmm. Well I won't be getting this straight away so I'll do some measurements and see if I'd be fine with 43 inches. The only issue is that I'll viewing it from a decent distance away and I'm not sure whether I'd get the 4K benefit; decent distance being around 6-7 feet during the Summer and about 10-12 feet when I move into my new Uni place in September.
In settings, "about tv" or "info" I think it's called. Similar to android phones.
You can also download to USB from NA website.
I dunno how you do it for AMD but for Nvidia you go to the control panel - Adjust desktop size and position. Check full screen and set perform scaling on display.
I had to get the update from sony official site and load it on a usb stick.
Darryl M R
Member
I'm thinking of picking up the 49" 800D. Oddly enough it is only 30 dollars more than the 43".
Any big concerns with this TV? I'm not a real sound snob and my room is well lit. I just want a good 4K HDR TV with a low input lag that doesn't cost too much.
Any big concerns with this TV? I'm not a real sound snob and my room is well lit. I just want a good 4K HDR TV with a low input lag that doesn't cost too much.
The Elite
BOSS
It has an IPS panel instead of a VA panel on the 43" inch. Therefore the contrast ratio is much better on the 43"
I own 49" and it's been a great TV. It depends if size is more important to you.
Here is a reddit post answering your question:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4Pro/comments/5e07fx/43_vs_49_x800d_which_is_the_better_buy/
Darryl M R
Member
Thanks for your input and sharing.
Without seeing both tv in person I wouldn't know how significant the contrast ratio would be to my decision. I do care a lot about size though.
TheSituation
Member
Can you post a screenshot?
The Elite
BOSS
Are you buying the 43" or the 49"?
You lose the VA panel with the 43"E AFAIK so you definitely want to get the D.
LightOfTruth
Member
Really want this TV but I'm still waiting for a better deal on it. I'd be extremely enticed if it was just $100 cheaper.
Darryl M R
Member
Wait are you able to get the 800d for 400 somewhere?
Armoured Priest
Member
Picked up the 800d a few weeks ago. Really liking this TV.
PS4 Pro looks great.
There's a blurring filter on the Game display mode when I play retro systems...not sure what I think of it. I keep switching back and forth on it.
Lag time on the TV for the retro systems is great, though. It's the most comfortable I've felt playing NES/SNES/Genesis games in years.
PS4 Pro looks great.
There's a blurring filter on the Game display mode when I play retro systems...not sure what I think of it. I keep switching back and forth on it.
Lag time on the TV for the retro systems is great, though. It's the most comfortable I've felt playing NES/SNES/Genesis games in years.
I'm Spartacus
Member
Want to show your shiny 4k TV off? Try downloading This Video
It was made by Sony to show off their OLED range so has 4k + 10bit Colour + HDR.
Just put the mp4 file on a USB stick or similar external device, plug it in and watch.
I found it mightily impressive and really shows off what the XD800 can do.
If anyone has links to similar 4k videos that shows off the TV, could you post them up for me please?
It was made by Sony to show off their OLED range so has 4k + 10bit Colour + HDR.
Just put the mp4 file on a USB stick or similar external device, plug it in and watch.
I found it mightily impressive and really shows off what the XD800 can do.
If anyone has links to similar 4k videos that shows off the TV, could you post them up for me please?
Darryl M R
Member
How much are people spending currently on their 800D?
LightOfTruth
Member
I think you're probably right. I think I'll make a final decision by the end of the summer.
Really? You sure you have it calibrated properly? Because if this is true then I might have to reconsider. Was hoping the Switch would look alright on the thing.
Armoured Priest
Member
I spent the standard $650 on mine (43")
I don't know...the Switch looks fine on mine.
Zelda looks as gorgeous as the screen shots and internet have been telling me.
Karspankey
Banned
The games look absolutely fine. They look better than what you would get on most other TVs. Games like Zelda are sub-1080p so there isn't much you can do besides emulating it to make it look sharper. The home screen of the Switch, however, looks really ugly and that is because it is 720p.
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Has the firmware dropped for the X800D?
Wasn't able to turn my set on these past few days (doing overtime sucks)
Wasn't able to turn my set on these past few days (doing overtime sucks)
Yes, it has. Was available thru the TV for me.
Karspankey
Banned
You know what? Turning on HDR10 while playing The Order 1886 doesn't even look bad. Like, other games look terrible when you force HDR, but this game isn't like that at all. Really interesting! I have a feeling that the black bars sort of keep it from going crazy with highlights and the end result is pretty convincing. I recommend trying it! I played from the part where you are on the airship if you want to see exactly what I saw.
lol this is annoying, two of the USB sticks I have lying around aren't detected, so I can't update.
The other USB that I used previously to update, I don't have on me.
I know the port works because my external hdd shows up with movies, pictures on it. Unfortunately, formatting the external with the .pkg file on it doesn't show up lol.
Oh well, I'll just have to get the USB back.
Can't update via the tv help. But the update is mentioned in one of the home screen tiles, just outlines whats in it.
The other USB that I used previously to update, I don't have on me.
I know the port works because my external hdd shows up with movies, pictures on it. Unfortunately, formatting the external with the .pkg file on it doesn't show up lol.
Oh well, I'll just have to get the USB back.
Can't update via the tv help. But the update is mentioned in one of the home screen tiles, just outlines whats in it.
Unknown?
Member
I had my advanced settings set up exactly as rting had it(except warm and not expert) and recently reset it to default and it looks so much better in HDR. Guess they were right that sets vary. What's a good calibration video I can download or watch on YouTube? I don't think I'm good enough to adjust that 10 point color calibration though.
Omnistalgic
Member
So 43 in 800D is $600 on sale at BB...
Should I get this or wait until the 900E closer or on Black Friday?
Anyone have both maybe?
Should I get this or wait until the 900E closer or on Black Friday?
Anyone have both maybe?
crazepharmacist
Member
is it true you need FALD for true HDR otherwise everything just looks washed out? I want to get this TV but lack of FALD seems like a deal breaker for HDR content.
One is a 43" and one is 49". Do you need the 49", if so the X900E is far superior to the X800D in every aspect. Nearly triple the sustained brightness, far better black levels, better processor and upscaling etc.
However, pick the X800D over the X800E which this year seems to be garbo.
HDR question.
Injustice 2 only supports HDR10, which this TV does not support. Fine. No HDR Injustice 2 for me.
According to this review of the upcoming Logan 4K release:
Does this mean I also cannot watch Logan in HDR? This is making me sad.
Injustice 2 only supports HDR10, which this TV does not support. Fine. No HDR Injustice 2 for me.
According to this review of the upcoming Logan 4K release:
Does this mean I also cannot watch Logan in HDR? This is making me sad.
Karspankey
Banned
Lol, man, you have it entirely wrong! This TV supports the fuck out of HD10 and HLG HDR. It doesn't support Dolby Vision which is fine because not many things support it.
Where'd you get the notion that it doesn't support it?
Omnistalgic
Member
I don't mind 43 but I do want HDR to be at a good standard before I finally get a 4K set...think I'll wait on X900 then. Almost double the price ATM...
it has an ips panel which means poorer contract ratio
Of? I mean I can use my phone if you'd like.
I'm totally laughing at all these people freaking out over hdr too. I dunno wtf everyone else is going on about but hdr in mass effect on my x800d looks amazing. There is no washed out anything after changing from rgb full and I don't even want to play without hdr that's how much of a difference it makes to me.