TheRealTalker
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So could one direct me to the Sony CES OT
If there is one made
If there is one made
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Sony's Shuhei Yoshida: newly announced product at CES 2014 (VR headset?)
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There is none. And there is no need for one. There is general CES thead in Off Topic area.
1AM for UK.
TheRealTalker
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I see got it... Thanks
serversurfer
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Your posts can basically be summarized as, "If Sony's solution is shitty, it will be shitty" Well, duh, but why would we assume it's gonna be shitty? Where are they touting HMZ as their VR solution, as you claimed?
That's because they're using scavenged parts. Smaller displays actually have a lower cost/inch due to yields; it only takes one defect to ruin a 20 in² panel, but if you're making 1 in² panels, you can toss the one with the defect and use the other 19 panels. The reason Oculus moved from a 5" display to a 7" display is because so many more 7" displays are being produced they can benefit from the economies of scale, not because larger displays are inherently cheaper.
Sony can custom design panels of any size and shape they like, and they're likely to produce them in much higher numbers than Oculus will be anyway. Further, Sony don't necessarily need to profit on the hardware, while Oculus do.
Actually, I was just reading the flexible panels are cheaper to manufacture, oddly enough.
Sure, HDMI can carry 3D video and 7.1 sound simultaneously. I imagine the sensors will be Bluetooth. I suppose they could use USB, but a dual-plug cable would be kinda ghetto, especially since you'd need to plug one in the front and one in the back.
See above. HDMI does 3D video every day.
Could be. If you watch the reveal video, at 3:06 he starts talking about how first-person games "transport you in to their world," and then at 4:32 there's a sequence that looks like it came straight out of a VR. In fact, while I was watching it initially, I was thinking, "WTF? Is that actually how we're gonna interact with this game?? It looks like it's some kind of crazy VR or something. =/"
Of course it can carry both audio and video, but I'm interested can it power headphones with enough electricity? If not, they could probably offer additional USB hub for the back AUX port [camera + VR sensors + power for headphones]
serversurfer
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Oh, I see what you mean. Actually, after I posted criticizing the possibility of a dual-plug connection, it occurred to me you'd probably need to plug in to AC to power the displays anyway, so you could get power for the headphones there too. The alternative would be a battery pack of some sort, but that seems kinda pointless, given you'll be tethered via HDMI anyway.
Murder. She Wrote
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I really hope they announce it or at least tease it, i'm just so excited!
I'm gonna be disappointed, aren't I?
useyourfist
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Yea i know that, i was more thinking about people worrying about ps4 having to render stuff twice. As in is there anything to worry about as it can display on two outputs using remote play tech so if the vr was designed in a way to take advantage of this, would it remove the ps4 effort needed to output 3d. As the headset could do that part.
remote play just sends the current framebuffer over wifi and has no overhead with reguards to game performance. it wouldnt suprise me if games rendered at a lower resolution to compensate for 3d
davepoobond
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I'm going to guess vita tv. This VCR headset thing seems like it would need its own event later on in the console cycle like how they introduced the move
serversurfer
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Move was debuted at E3, wasn't it?
I kind of expected PSVR to debut at GDC, but I'll take CES too.
I kind of expected PSVR to debut at GDC, but I'll take CES too.
TetraGenesis
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S¡mon;96203209 said:
With the new HMZ with head tracking announced yesterday at the press conference, I'm not enthusiastic about a full PS4 VR reveal, at least not at CES. They either would have kept the whole thing under wraps for now or made a big deal out of it. Instead they announced another one in their line of prohibitively expensive "3D viewers" that only casually includes a key VR feature. Idk. I don't like that they're even continuing that line. Makes me think the PS4 VR solution is even further off than anticipated.
Edit: Not to mention, Kaz is never going to announce a new product in a keynote. Or at all. That would be left to the Playstation branch. Or the new COO in last night's presser.
Personally, I don't really think we'll see a PS4 VR headset today but that Kaz "is never going to announce a new product in a keynote" is absolutely nonsense. And something as big as Virtual Reality... CES is the perfect place - that's not necessarily something they would leave to the PlayStation branch.
He didn't tweet about anything. He was just joking with that journo about getting into CES 'product demo' photos.
PlayStation just tweeted that we should watch the live conference:
Tune in here to watch Kaz Hirai's CES 2014 keynote, live from Las Vegas, at 9:00AM Pacific: http://bit.ly/1cJcEGc
Tune in here to watch Kaz Hirai's CES 2014 keynote, live from Las Vegas, at 9:00AM Pacific: http://bit.ly/1cJcEGc
TetraGenesis
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S¡mon;96204664 said:
CES is the perfect place. You're right. At Sony's presser. Which was last night. The CEO is not going to announce and demo a new product in his personal keynote speech.
Edit: Also this.
I thought that was pretty much agreed upon in this thread. Sony certainly has VR and CES would have been a nice place to show it, but I think Shu's tweet was wildly misinterpreted.
Edit 2: Eh, but what do I know. My guess is as good as anybody's I suppose.
SolidSnakex
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They've updated with this one now and it's in the main headliner spot, which last nights conference never was. Although it might not mean anything.
I'm not saying a VR headset will be announced, but your statement (or at least your suggestion, as it appears to me) that CEOs never introduce new products is nonsense.
The thing I'm wondering... since when did "Sony CEO Kaz Hirai keynote" become "Kaz's personal speech"?
TetraGenesis
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S¡mon;96212077 said:
Look, I have no idea what will happen, but the way I see a CEO's keynote a day after already having a press conference is exactly that. It's a State of the Union Address. He's gonna talk about where Sony's come from, where they are, where they see the future of technology going, and where they see themselves as part of that. He could reveal a new product but I'm saying I think it's incredibly unlikely.
kaz is talking like a guy with something to announce, but, it's been 20 minutes and it hasn't gone anywhere yet
Saint Francis
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"Headmount Display" !!!!!!
BRocknRolla
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Haha, I immediately started laughing when I head that. I guess it could mean something that already exists... But it seems like it might have been a slip up.
I am not able to view it right now, but it is happening?
BRocknRolla
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Creator of "Breaking Bad" mentioned that he was excited about the "headmounted display," which no one had mentioned up to that point. It's open to interpretation at this point.
Why? It would be a revlolutionary piece of tech hardware. With that logic, why did they announce PS Now at CES?
Byakuya769
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Any, "YOSHIDA LIED!!!!!" meltdowns?
Betta Lines
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Well... he did, didn't he?
it is here: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily
edit: for sale NOW! ( or rather tomorrow)
1299 GBP
edit: for sale NOW! ( or rather tomorrow)
1299 GBP
Betta Lines
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Nope nope nope nope. That's no VR headset (although I still want one).
HORRORSHØW
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If you could link me to a quotation by Yoshida that explicitly states that Sony was going to show/announce/or otherwise demonstrate VR that would be helpful.
No idea if true.
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/ps4-vr-headsets-exist-developers-shoot-rumors/
edit: i hope it´s not, VR on console would push VR on PC too.
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/ps4-vr-headsets-exist-developers-shoot-rumors/
edit: i hope it´s not, VR on console would push VR on PC too.
nope that's last year's version.... they just re-mentioned it..lol.
edit- I'm starting to get impatient.....I'm just going to presume there is nothing coming anytime soon.... it's going to have to be the Oculus or this thing for me
Infiniteye
jeff_rigby
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Excellent post which got me thinking about when, which is impacted by R&D and in Sony's case they only release finished software or hardware after Standards are in place. Start the party uses Move and likely openCV but it's an open standard useful for prototyping while openVX is for production. openVX and the camera API standard will be ready for "production" 3rd quarter 2014. This is likely when VR glasses will be released by Sony.
Another Khronos PDF that takes us through what needs to be in place for what we have seen demoed for Google Glasses VR. It also goes through what is needed by Mobile platforms to support AR both hardware and Software standards.
I have no doubt that Nintendo , Sony and Microsoft are all at least in the R&D and prototype stages of VR development. It will eventually be a revolution in gaming , may even create a "post tv" gaming age.
who will release first and when is the question. Perhaps wii u's dismal performance may provoke Nintendo to take a Wii (or virtual boy) like risk then perhaps we would see sony and microsoft refine and add to it with their own versions.
who will release first and when is the question. Perhaps wii u's dismal performance may provoke Nintendo to take a Wii (or virtual boy) like risk then perhaps we would see sony and microsoft refine and add to it with their own versions.