Considering its success on the 3DS, Animal Crossing U is bound to be announced soon, at E3 or on one of the dozen or so Directs
This is a good point. Especially with the Miiverse plaza thing too.
Considering its success on the 3DS, Animal Crossing U is bound to be announced soon, at E3 or on one of the dozen or so Directs
Nintendo have a thing called a 3ds and that (and its games) will make them enough money to survive this generation if needed.
I also expect they only need t start the momentum, when people start buying it their friends and family will see, hear and play it and then some of them will buy it and sales will slowing increase.
I reckon the wii u will comfortable pass gamecube sales (and maybe even n64 sales) by the time this generation is over.
Investors won't do a thing. If they could, Nintendo would be iOS only by now.Nintendo wont go away. They will maintain the handheld hardware. They will quite home console. It doesnt make much businness sense. Too risky for average return. They could sell exclusives for sony/microsoft or other hardware company and make easy money. Microsoft would easily pay so much for a mario game that it would balance the lack of harware income.
I love Nintendo and my wii u, but its unsustainable the way it is today. Mario 3d world looks amazing but it must drive more than 4 millions console by the end of the year to justify the system. Unless wii fit u make a miracle,and I dont see that happening, investors will try to kill game machine.
maybe. still doesnt mean that they will release only two games in the holiday season 2014.
you do realize that they will have to pay huge royalties to either MS or Sony.Nintendo wont go away. They will maintain the handheld hardware. They will quite home console. It doesnt make much businness sense. Too risky for average return. They could sell exclusives for sony/microsoft or other hardware company and make easy money. Microsoft would easily pay so much for a mario game that it would balance the lack of harware income.
I love Nintendo and my wii u, but its unsustainable the way it is today. Mario 3d world looks amazing but it must drive more than 4 millions console by the end of the year to justify the system. Unless wii fit u make a miracle,and I dont see that happening, investors will try to kill game machine.
The 3DS had Paper Mario as its holiday title last year. Nintendo has a precedent of having some mediocre holidays and Smash is much bigger than Paper Mario
lmao @ X being their big Dec title, they'll get annihilated. Xenoblades didn't even crack a million on a system that has a much bigger userbase. (potential) Quality of the game aside it has fuck all mass appeal, it's no FF15. It would be like if Sony's big holiday title for ps4 2014 holidays was xilla 3 or Ni no ki 2.
Nintendo will be saving Smash for the holidays.
And accomplish what? Create a system that is about in line with the 8 year old ps3 and 360, possibly around the same price but with a fraction of the games and content? What is appealing about that to anyone other than Nintendo fans, who are already on board anyway?
while people joke about the complete lack of third party games at the very least we can expect a COD, AssCree whatever, just dance 2015, yet another skylanders and a the third sonic game (though that might as well be considered 1st party) anything else yes is up in the air though I wouldn't be surprised if fifa and madden make a return if only as cash in roster update versions at least
Is X really supposed to come out next year? Did Nintendo or Monolith ever say "confirmed for 2014"?
while people joke about the complete lack of third party games at the very least we can expect a COD, AssCree whatever, just dance 2015, yet another skylanders and a the third sonic game (though that might as well be considered 1st party) anything else yes is up in the air though I wouldn't be surprised if fifa and madden make a return if only as cash in roster update versions at least
third sonic game yes because it is an exclusive money hat gamewhile people joke about the complete lack of third party games at the very least we can expect a COD, AssCree whatever, just dance 2015, yet another skylanders and a the third sonic game (though that might as well be considered 1st party) anything else yes is up in the air though I wouldn't be surprised if fifa and madden make a return if only as cash in roster update versions at least
Zelda isnt a big seller. Doesnt make sense to push Zelda if they are in a heat.Will we see a Zelda title in 2014? Seems too soon, only 3 years after SS....
They might and try to push it if Wii U sales don't improve as much as they want but an all new HD Zelda might take longer and given they have Mario Kart and Smash Bros I doubt Zelda would help that much.
But 2014 does seem like a good year on the exclusive front on the Wii U, Mario Kart 8 seems amazing.
It's been 2014 on their release schedual for a while.Is X really supposed to come out next year? Did Nintendo or Monolith ever say "confirmed for 2014"?
im gonna say something wich I expect neogaf to remember..
Wii U is gonna be canceled next year. Iwata will be erased in april and wont be april fools, maybe may 2014.
There wont be a new game console really soon. The death of the system will be slow. They will release the rest of the games and the next zelda will be ps4 game. Call me crazy, but I really expect that.
Please dont bann me, but I really see that happening.
They might and try to push it if Wii U sales don't improve as much as they want but an all new HD Zelda might take longer and given they have Mario Kart and Smash Bros I doubt Zelda would help that much.
Possible Surprise 2014 Wii U / 3DS Release
- New Wii U or 3DS Game by EAD Tokyo Group No. 2 (Koizumi)
- Miyamoto's Steel Diver 2 (Free to Play)
- New Game from Sakamoto's Rhythm Heaven team
- New Game from Sakamoto's Kiki Trick team
- Wii U Game from Next-Level Games / Nintendo SPD Group No. 3
- Wii U Game from Intelligent Systems / Nintendo SPD Group No. 2
- Friend Collection 3DS for North America & Europe
- New Game from Nintendogs+Cats team? AKA Miyamoto and Konno's new IP???
- More HD Ports?
Lots of possibilities.
After looking at the Wind Waker dev time thread I think we'll be seeing another high profile HD remake.
Man, I just can't see myself picking a Wii U until holiday 2014, if then.
All jokes aside Wii U, if its not going to get any third-party support, needs to put out 1st and 2nd party support of at least 15-20 titles a year, so something else from IntiSys would make me happy.
The best Zelda of all time came out just two years after OoT.Will we see a Zelda title in 2014? Seems too soon, only 3 years after SS....
vs. an overpriced system in line with the 8 year old ps3 and 360 but with no games and a shitty screen on controller gimmick that is appealing to literally no one?
vs. an overpriced system in line with the 8 year old ps3 and 360 but with no games and a shitty screen on controller gimmick that is appealing to literally no one?
The best Zelda of all time came out just two years after OoT.
I wouldn't expect AC 2014 on Wii U unless this year's version does very well, and the same can be said of CoD. The Wii kept getting versions because they all did well for what they were.
I would be shocked if not Japan next year. Xenoblade completed development in 2010. It only seems like a short dev period since the US version was 2012.
porting AssCree 3 cost less than a million euros to do, its fair to assume that 4 cost less still (with a lot of the hard work having been done last time), 3 was profitable, 4 should sell more (higher install base + more appealing setting)
similar situation with COD, the port wont have cost much
The best Zelda of all time came out just two years after OoT.
Everything we know of so far will be released Q1/Q2, summer at the latest, with the likely exceptions of Zelda, X and YEY. E3 will reveal christmas 2014 releases currently in development, Zelda a remote possibilty, some as yet unannounced.
Vs sinking more money into a sinking ship in order to reengineer the systems OS to work without a gamepad, remove some of the few features people actually like and potentially have to sink more resources into games already in development that use the game pad. Not to mention squandering what little good will they have left with the few people that actually buy their consoles.
porting AssCree 3 cost less than a million euros to do, its fair to assume that 4 cost less still (with a lot of the hard work having been done last time), 3 was profitable, 4 should sell more (higher install base + more appealing setting)
similar situation with COD, the port wont have cost much
. If they can get Mario Kart, Smash, and Bayonetta 2 in the first half of the year, there's actually a chance WiiU can put up a decently respectable fight against the competition.
they will need to keep smash back for holiday 2014 or they will need to have another big franchise ready (Zelda wont sell enough even if they could get it out in time).
I would have hoped that in Q1 of this year, when WiiU sales started floundering and EA stopped ordering dev kits, Iwata or someone at Nintendo would have braced themselves for something in 2014.
I find it hard to believe DK and Mario Kart will be all we get in the first half of the year from Nintendo.
Also I can see Zelda U coming along sooner than expected. They've been working on since E3 2011.
I really hope 2014 isn't as dire as many here believe. If they can get Mario Kart, Smash, and Bayonetta 2 in the first half of the year, there's actually a chance WiiU can put up a decently respectable fight against the competition.
Yes.
A $199 Wii U with no gamepad turning a profit on every unit sold sounds FAR more attractive than the current product. Any money they'd sink on reengineering the OS to work without a gamepad (which I REALLY don't think is as difficult as everyone seems to think it is, it's not a complicated OS) they'd make back due to the price drop and actually making a profit on the thing.
It's not like they're doing huge, ambitious gamepad things with their new games anyways. 3D World, as far as I can tell, doesn't use it. Mario Kart uses it as a horn. Smash doesn't use it.
And you have to admit... anyone who actually bought this system is most likely a fanboy that would defend Nintendo to the death no matter what decision they make. They've lost their good will by dropping out of the power race with Playstation and Xbox, appealing to "teh casuals", and having no third party support. Dropping the gamepad won't mean shit at this point. The Wii U is already a fucking disaster at this point.
Also, not including the Gamepad with every system doesn't mean not supporting the gamepad at all. They can still sell it separately, possibly with Nintendoland packed with it like they did with Wii Play + Wiimote. Advertise it as a thing that "enhances" gameplay, like the Vita with PS4 or even Kinect with 360.
Yeah... people keep going around saying "the late 2013 lineup is good, but 2014 is where Wii U will REALLY shine".I don't think Smash is going to be done until Holiday and Zelda won't be until 2015. There's going to be an intense mid year drought for the Wii U next year with no third party support to fill the gap.
A Wii U without the gamepad would probably sell at the same rate while making Nintendo even less profit from each console sold.
It's not about financial cost. It's about opportunity cost. Just because these ports make some money doesn't mean it's an automatic they will come especially because if so Wii U would be getting many other games. The dev staff can be used in other ways especially for Ubisoft with their huge teams.
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I think 2014 is an interesting year to look at for WiiU. It'll be the real test of whether or not the 'momentum' can keep going.
Right now we have:
Donkey Kong : Tropical Freeze - Feb.2014
Mario Kart 8 - Spring 2014
X - 2014
Smash Bros. WiiU - 2014
Bayonetta 2 - 2014
Yoshi Yarn - TBA
Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei - TBA
Zelda WiiU - TBA
Wii Sports Boxing, Baseball, Golf - TBA
Am I missing anything?
Anyways, it's a solid lineup, but one's gotta wonder how it'll spread out. There are basically zero 3rd party games coming in 2014 worth mentioning, and it's safe to assume there won't be any big surprises in the first half of the year, so every month we can only look to these games.
I also think it's safe speculation that Donkey Kong was delayed for February to fill in the Q1. Mario Kart's spring release could be anywhere from end-of-march to June, so who knows on that.
I think the ideal setup could be as follows:
Feb - Donkey Kong
March - More Wii Sports on eshop + retail release
April - Mario Kart
June - Smash Bros.
August - Yoshi/Bayonetta 2
September - X
Holiday - Zelda + FExSMT + surprise title
Somehow I doubt this circumstance, and see X falling into early 2015 and Smash as the holiday lineup. I think the biggest questions would be:
1. Is Mario Kart's spring release going to be a late spring, holding over the empty summer, or is it going to be an early one. It felt really complete at e3 and from my time with it.
2. Is Yoshi Yarn vaporware or just very far off? They haven't mentioned it in ages, and August might be early for a title like that.
3. X looked far along as early as January 2012, could this be sooner than expected? I know GAF would freak out if it was slated for May or June.
4. How long does it take to make a Smash Bros. game? The engine is there, it looks really far along already, is a summer release even possible?
....I may have thought about this way too much but I feel like 2014 is more critical for WiiU than this holiday is. What say you gaf?
I find it hard to believe DK and Mario Kart will be all we get in the first half of the year from Nintendo.
Do you really think, looking at the sales figures, that the Gamepad is a selling point for the Wii U?
Either the gimmick catches on (Wii Remote!) or it doesn't. Gamepad hasn't caught on, and looking at Nintendo's upcoming lineup, they have no great, mindblowing ideas for it either. The game that makes people say "Wow! I can only do that with the Wii U Gamepad! I have to spend $300 on this system to play this game with that controller!" does not exist and will never exist. There is no Wii Sports killer app for Wii U. At this point, people just want games.
I say drop the gamepad, drop the price, and drop Mario, Smash and Kart on our candy asses. I know it's not a popular opinion around here and it will NEVER happen (Nintendo is too proud), but whatevs I'm just throwing ideas around.
Nintendo wont go away. They will maintain the handheld hardware. They will quite home console. It doesnt make much businness sense. Too risky for average return. They could sell exclusives for sony/microsoft or other hardware company and make easy money. Microsoft would easily pay so much for a mario game that it would balance the lack of harware income.
I love Nintendo and my wii u, but its unsustainable the way it is today. Mario 3d world looks amazing but it must drive more than 4 millions console by the end of the year to justify the system. Unless wii fit u make a miracle,and I dont see that happening, investors will try to kill game machine.
Anyone expect a Mon Hun 4 Wiiu announcement sometime near the end of 014? It's selling strong and the demand seems to be there, I think it makes good sense to at least reassure fans and throw NA a direct down the road, by that time I'm sure 3U will have had plenty of breathing room.