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[Sami+]

Kinda unrelated to this but man I wonder how many years I'll have to wait before getting an adaptation of the darker, adult (as in Peter is a literal adult) Spider-Man I grew up with.

My favorite Spidey stories are Kraven's Last Hunt and Blue so something closer to that would get me really pumped. Still one of my favorite fictional characters either way but eh, this looks like a pretty standard Marvel romp. Not bad, just... eh, I feel like both Spider-Man and Batman deserve better than what they're getting right now. It could still surprise me though!

 

[Raptor]

I wonder if people got angry after seeing Kong: Skull Island that the trailers showed clips of all the major action scenes.

I got pumped, the more I see the more I want to go!!

 

[SpaceWolf]

Kinda unrelated to this but man I wonder how many years I'll have to wait before getting an adaptation of the darker, adult (as in Peter is a literal adult) Spider-Man I grew up with.

 

[darkwing]

yeah trailer spoiling the whole movie, check

 

[Callibretto]

The trailer didn't show the whole movie. It did show the outcome of the whole ferry set piece though.

We still have no idea about the highschool parts, the homecoming dance, shocker, tinkerer or even who donald glover is playing as.

Imo there's still plenty of thing to look forward to. Beside, i think MCU is great for the little moments like interaction between characters more so than the plot. Which you only get to see a little of them in this trailer

 

[Sami+]

Right but that was bad and not actually a thematically mature or interesting story at all.

I'm not talking about the fuckin symbiote lol

 

[Chezzymann]

It's cool that those movie high school kids actually look like a high school class.

Here's 17 year old Flash Thompson in Spider-Man (2002)

Even if some of the Homecoming kids are 18-22, they at least pass for a 16 year old.

in my high school there were some seniors that looked like they were 30

 

[SpaceWolf]

Right but that was bad and not actually a thematically mature or interesting story at all.

I'm not talking about the fuckin symbiote lol

I know, I'm joking

 

[Bobby Roberts]

<3

 

[Spinluck]

Tbh, after Civil War I almost gave up movie trailers after Marvel ruined Spider-Man's inclusion in the movie for me.

Bobby is this thread's superhero. Except he's like Cypher expecting to punch away a cosmic threat that multiplies by the minute.

Godspeed you valiant hero! All these fuckers are going to be first in line to watch it on release day then will talk about all the things that were not in the marketing material they so readily consumed a dozen times anyway.

Bobby

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[Raptor]

Whats the name of the suit that was made by him?

That looked better than the one tony gave him.

 

[Sami+]

I know, I'm joking

Whoops &#128584;&#128584;&#128584; haha

On the bright side I guess it's best we'll get to physically see this version of the character grow up on screen. I mean Ultimate was still high school Pete after all and that got really gruesome at points.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Whats the name of the suit that was made by him?

That looked better than the one tony gave him.

Peter doesn't really name his suits, it's just an updated version of his homemade costume that we saw in Civil War.

 

[Raptor]

Peter doesn't really name his suits, it's just an updated version of his homemade costume that we saw in Civil War.

Hopefully in the new game there is a version like that, looks very nice to me.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Hopefully in the new game there is a version like that, looks very nice to me.

I hope the game has loads of alternate suits like the PS1 games. Always loved that.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I'm seeing this day 1. So excited.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

I hope the game has loads of alternate suits like the PS1 games. Always loved that.

Every Spidey game has alternate suits, so I'm sure this is a given.

 

[SpaceWolf]

I hope the game has loads of alternate suits like the PS1 games. Always loved that.

I hope so too, if purely on account of the fact that I really dislike the default suit they've shown off in the game.

Yuck.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Right but that was bad and not actually a thematically mature or interesting story at all.

I'm not talking about the fuckin symbiote lol

Spider-Man 2 was thematically mature. Or does that not count because it wasn't dark?

 

[Spinluck]

I hope so too, if purely on account of the fact that I really dislike the default suit they've shown off in the game.

Yuck.

That's TASM2 the game modded to have the suit in.

Makes it look worse than it really is.

 

[Zok310]

This guy is flying a plane with his web....wtf.
HYPED!!!!

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Every Spidey game has alternate suits, so I'm sure this is a given.

I hope it's a lot of suits

I hope so too, if purely on account of the fact that I really dislike the default suit they've shown off in the game.

Yuck.

That's TASM2 the game modded to have the suit in.

Makes it look worse than it really is.

This. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me:

 

[Raptor]

That game costume is better looking to me than the movie one, I just hate that small as hell little spidey logo on his chest.

 

[Spinluck]

I hope it's a lot of suits


This. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me:

So sexy.

I was against the white at first but I'm digging the whole thing now.

Usually black is the safe go to color to integrate in these superhero outfits, so I like the bold move with the white.

 

[SpaceWolf]

That's TASM2 the game modded to have the suit in.

Makes it look worse than it really is.

I hope it's a lot of suits

This. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me:

Curse you, sloppy Google search.

Regardless, I stand by my original evaluation.

 

[nOoblet16]

I'm going to assume that the entire reason why Keaton got casted as The Vulture was because he played Birdman in Birdman right?

 

[BattleMonkey]

Not really, no. I can, sure. But usually, a trailer is just a commercial.

I guess what I'm getting at is that for a lot of people, you're not looking at commercials as "here's what the movie will look and sound like when you buy your ticket." You're looking at them as tools by which to figure out and beat the movie before you see it.

Which is, inherently, counterproductive to "preserving the experience" you're looking to have when you do go to the movie - a movie that in most instances tyou already know you're going to before you ever watched frame one of any commercial.

You're basically admitting that you're trying to Solve for X when you watch a trailer. And if you're not doing that, you're looking for a reason to complain when the purity of the theatrical experience you were hoping to have is sullied.

At which point I'm wondering why it is people keep volunteering to be first in line to watch commercials for these movies when both aims are typically detrimental to your overall enjoyment.

(you could, also, start attempting to think of movies less as games you need to speedrun and more like stories you experience for the sake of them. This option doesn't seem to be one that gets considered much, though)

You really are over complicating things to create some kind of narrative you have cooked up.

It's simple, we don't like having trailers spell out a movie or give away major story points. Does it really not bother you when a clever scene or important plot element is essentially "ruined" by a trailer which would have been more enjoyable going in fresh?

Worst is horror films that put there big build up scare completely in the trailer, when you watch the movie it's like "I seen this", the whole emotion it's supposed to create is gone during the theater experience cause it's been battered into your head for months of trailers and previews. Do trailers that give up too much affect the movie viewing experience? Of course it does. And seriously the whole "it gave away the whole movie" is just a saying, simple as that.

People are not going around boy cotting films cause of trailers giving stuff away, it's an annoyance to people simple as that.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

You really are over complicating things to create some kind of narrative you have cooked up..

Nah

Does it really not bother you when a clever scene or important plot element is essentially "ruined" by a trailer which would have been more enjoyable going in fresh?

Nah.

 

[Jack Scofield]

I hope they give Tony the line, "with great power comes great responsibility." I want everything in the MCU to revolve around Tony Stark in some way.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

The issue I have with the Insomniac game suit is that it's too busy. It's like when you doodle something in your notebook but keep adding details out of boredom. The suit doesn't need all those supplementary details.

 

[Raptor]

I hope they give Tony the line, "with great power comes great responsibility." I want everything in the MCU to revolve around Tony Stark in some way.

They should have a flashback that shows it was Tony all along what cause the gamma accident that gave banner his Hulk powers.

 

[DeathoftheEndless]

I like the Insomniac suit, but it would be better if the silver parts were changed to white.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

They should have a flashback that shows it was Tony all along what cause the gamma accident that gave banner his Hulk powers.

I know you're joking but they did this a couple of years ago in the comics. It was a red herring though and Stark wasn't actually responsible but he was involved.

 

[Eggbok]

I hope it's a lot of suits


This. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me:

The Playstation king trailer made me like it.

 

[3N16MA]

not sure where the age of him has to do with the movie being a darker tone or not. Didn't stop kick ass

I'm not sure what you want them to so with a teenage Peter that would make the film darker. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by darker. Since you used Kick Ass as an example I'm guessing you want it more violent, language, sex, R rating, Peter no longer cracking jokes and being more serious?

 

[Raptor]

I know you're joking but they did this a couple of years ago in the comics. It was a red herring though and Stark wasn't actually responsible but he was involved.

More annoyed than Joking, I dont agree on Tony being on everything this days.

 

[Sami+]

Spider-Man 2 was thematically mature. Or does that not count because it wasn't dark?

Spidey 2 was rad, he posted a pic of 3. I was a kid when 2 came out so I sadly didn't appreciate it as much at the time, but yes, that kind of thing is what I'm talking about even though I'm still waiting on something as well done as that but with a darker tone.

 

[Krixeus]

I hope they give Tony the line, "with great power comes great responsibility." I want everything in the MCU to revolve around Tony Stark in some way.

Would actually work if he ends up marrying hot aunt May...

 

[DrROBschiz]

outside of being spoiler crazy i loved it

And i totally embrace the MCU smashing of all its characters into one another

 

[Pai Pai Master]

This is a movie about a kid in high school. It's going to be targeted at Spider-Man fans of all ages. If this becomes an ongoing series and we get to see this version of Peter grow up with the audience I can see them gradually getting into some of the darker subject matter, but right now all I want to see is something as lighthearted and carefree as this appears to be.

There will still be moments of gravity as we can see from the trailer but after all of Sony's other attempts I'm ready for a drastic change in tone.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Not enough of the lighter stuff in the trailer for my liking! The music was a poor generic choice too, after using MGMT in the original (which was weirdly cut out of the original trailer when shown in theatres)

 

[icespide]

so the spider emblem tightens up/releases the suit but it also can become a drone? how does that work?

 

[Einchy]

Sure, it's not like there's tons of comparison shots for all kinds of movies out there.

Are there?

Cus I've never actually seen one where things like character models, texture quality and animation improved from trailer to final film, and it especially doesn't happen enough where if we see a trailer we automatically have to think "it'll be better in the final movie".

Like the most famous one is probably the one for Guardians of the Galaxy, and that's mostly when adding better color grading and some stylistic changes, but the actual CGI didn't change.

[edit]

People always say the same thing when anyone criticizes a game's graphics but a game's graphics improving on release is extremely rare.

 

[SketchTheArtist]

The Playstation king trailer made me like it.

Where is that from?!

 

[clockworkinyou]

You really are over complicating things to create some kind of narrative you have cooked up.

It's simple, we don't like having trailers spell out a movie or give away major story points. Does it really not bother you when a clever scene or important plot element is essentially "ruined" by a trailer which would have been more enjoyable going in fresh?

Worst is horror films that put there big build up scare completely in the trailer, when you watch the movie it's like "I seen this", the whole emotion it's supposed to create is gone during the theater experience cause it's been battered into your head for months of trailers and previews. Do trailers that give up too much affect the movie viewing experience? Of course it does. And seriously the whole "it gave away the whole movie" is just a saying, simple as that.

People are not going around boy cotting films cause of trailers giving stuff away, it's an annoyance to people simple as that.

I don't think he's able to put what you're saying together. When studios offer alot of information in their trailers, normal human deduction goes to work for alot of curious people and they rewatch it to try to put the pieces together. I think he thinks that he speaks for the majority?

 

[icespide]

Where is that from?!

PS4 commercial

 

[The Kree]

It'd be great if Tony is revealed to have killed Uncle Ben.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

Where is that from?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZDM1Oo6-A

Googled "The Playstation king trailer"

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I don't think he's able to put what you're saying together. When studios offer alot of information in their trailers, normal human deduction goes to work for alot of curious people and they rewatch it to try to put the pieces together. I think he thinks that he speaks for the majority?

What? No, I understand him perfectly. See the bolded? That's what I mean when I say people are watching commercials SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of trying to Solve for X. You're trying to beat the movie before you see it. That's not the trailer's fault, because obsessively rewatching the same movie commercial upwards of 5-6 times solely for the sake of trying to figure out the plot isn't the commercial's intended use.

That you think this is what you're supposed to do is what I'm trying to point out as a problem.

Like I said, the option where you start to think of movies less as games you need to speedrun and more like stories you experience for the sake of them never seems to be even partially considered by people who love to watch trailers for movies they already know they're going to see if only so they can complain that it "spoiled" everything for them.

The entire act is counterproductive. If you're that concerned with preserving the experience, why are you watching trailers? If you're watching the trailers, why are you using them as incomplete wiki entries?

95% of all the "faults" with a commercial along those lines aren't the commercial's fault. They're yours.

 

[clockworkinyou]

What? No, I understand him perfectly. See the bolded? That's what I mean when I say people are watching commercials SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of trying to Solve for X. You're trying to beat the movie before you see it. That's not the trailer's fault, because obsessively rewatching the same movie commercial upwards of 5-6 times solely for the sake of trying to figure out the plot isn't the commercial's intended use.

That you think this is what you're supposed to do is what I'm trying to point out as a problem.

Like I said, the option where you start to think of movies less as games you need to speedrun and more like stories you experience for the sake of them never seems to be even partially considered by people who love to watch trailers for movies they already know they're going to see if only so they can complain that it "spoiled" everything for them.

The entire act is counterproductive. If you're that concerned with preserving the experience, why are you watching trailers? If you're watching the trailers, why are you using them as incomplete wiki entries?

95% of all the "faults" with a commercial along those lines aren't the commercial's fault. They're yours.

Ok, I misunderstood. But could you also say that it's a negative for the trailer to show too much information? Like you proposed above, a trailer is to grab your attention.

Say you have someone who didn't know anything about this, watched the trailer after learning of the title, in an attempt to decide if it's something they want to spend money on and see.

They watch the trailer and instead of piquing their interest, they feel satisfied that they were provided with enough story information to warrant skipping the theater release, and instead wait for it to come to rental/HBO/etc.

Is it still that person's fault?